"Mr. President, you don't believe in the Constitution. You believe in socialism."

[Sallow]

It's not a hard concept and we grasp it.

What the left doesn't get is that our POTUS is a socialist, if not an actual commie, and is trying to drag the US down. Deny it if you like, it's true.

He's basically as much a socialist as every other United States President with a couple of notable exceptions, like Harding and Coolidge.

 

[bodecea]

It's not a hard concept and we grasp it.

What the left doesn't get is that our POTUS is a socialist, if not an actual commie, and is trying to drag the US down. Deny it if you like, it's true.

Wow...and I bet you really believe that garbage in your partisan fantasy world.

 

[BlackAsCoal]

It's not a hard concept and we grasp it.

What the left doesn't get is that our POTUS is a socialist, if not an actual commie, and is trying to drag the US down. Deny it if you like, it's true.

As a socialist .. Obama is a long ass way from even being a liberal or a progressive. He disdains them both.

He is a corporatist .. just like every American president is a corporatist.

You are aware that his biggest backers in the election was Wall Street aren't you?

You can't be the POTUS UNLESS you're a corporatist.

 

[DiamondDave]

You absolutely and utterly wrong.

States and Nations are made up of people..and are a human construct.

You are completely and utterly wrong... the nation is not defined as each individual within the nation.... that would be the nation's populace... and could/would have been easily worded as such if that was what was intended... the United States is the Union of States... the entity known as the country, not every last spec of dust or individual within the country.... to have the common defense and general welfare of the United States ITSELF is much different than having the defense and general welfare of each citizen within the states provided for by government.. hence why the states, counties, towns, and municipalities provide police, and not the fed.. the fed provides defense agencies and entities that defend the nation as a whole

The founding fathers and constructors of the constitution chose their words well.. unfortunately for our country, power hungry asshole politicians and greedy entitlement junkies bastardized it for their own gain at the expense of others

Now you are wrong and preaching Socialism.

Idiot.. you indeed are wrong.. the United States as an entity is specifically a union of 50 states and the district of columbia in a form of government known as a constitutional republic...

And it is the likes of YOU who preach socialist programs, statist policies, and government enforced wealth redistribution my taking 2 words out of context and ignoring the rest of the constitution that strictly limits congressional powers and delegates all other powers to the states and citizens...

You're a fucking moron, or you're simply like SO many others who choose to ignore for your own personal needs or for the liberal guilt that you house within you... however that guilt is not all that true, or you would donate of yourself rather than having it forced from others while you take credit for generosity

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Look....we know that there are socialistic-leaning programs that exist in our country but that does not make us a Socialist State....as you socialist promoters/Obama supporters would want us to believe...we never have been but that's why you guys always dredge up the old deflective arguments...

Capitalism is still alive in America.....albeit barely since BO took office....he is an out-and-out Socialist commie who is leading our country into the MISERY that is Socialism...

He wants to spend us into oblivian....tax us into oblivian....demilitarize us into oblivian....green us into oblivian....regulate us into oblivian....he wants us to become part of the socialistic new world order...top down control everywhere....

Does he promote or even allow Capitalism room to do its OWN thing without his omnipotent STATISM looking over the shoulder and managing every little thing it possibly can.....?

NO....and besides an insignificant sop to Capitalism that what you basically got in his SOTU this year...

try and deny it...

Deny what?

Our economy is by and large..Capitalist. That's absolutely correct.

There are parts of our government that are socialist.

We have a blended economy. I agree with it.

As I've posted before..Capitalism drives the bus. Socialism picks up the loose ends.

I have no idea why this is such a hard concept for conservatives.

The problem you don't seem to grasp is that your wonderful Prez is attempting to throw Capitalism UNDER the bus...

 

[AllieBaba]

It's not a hard concept and we grasp it.

What the left doesn't get is that our POTUS is a socialist, if not an actual commie, and is trying to drag the US down. Deny it if you like, it's true.

As a socialist .. Obama is a long ass way from even being a liberal or a progressive. He disdains them both.

He is a corporatist .. just like every American president is a corporatist.

You are aware that he biggest backers in the election was Wall Street aren't you?

You can't be the POTUS UNLESS you're a corporatist.

I've never even heard that term before.

I know that the agenda he pushes is a socialist/communist one. what he is personally, I don't care or know...I know that those who push socialism and communism are corrupt, self-serving, and megamaniacal.

 

[Sallow]

You are completely and utterly wrong... the nation is not defined as each individual within the nation.... that would be the nation's populace... and could/would have been easily worded as such if that was what was intended... the United States is the Union of States... the entity known as the country, not every last spec of dust or individual within the country.... to have the common defense and general welfare of the United States ITSELF is much different than having the defense and general welfare of each citizen within the states provided for by government.. hence why the states, counties, towns, and municipalities provide police, and not the fed.. the fed provides defense agencies and entities that defend the nation as a whole

The founding fathers and constructors of the constitution chose their words well.. unfortunately for our country, power hungry asshole politicians and greedy entitlement junkies bastardized it for their own gain at the expense of others

Now you are wrong and preaching Socialism.

Idiot.. you indeed are wrong.. the United States as an entity is specifically a union of 50 states and the district of columbia in a form of government known as a constitutional republic...

And it is the likes of YOU who preach socialist programs, statist policies, and government enforced wealth redistribution my taking 2 words out of context and ignoring the rest of the constitution that strictly limits congressional powers and delegates all other powers to the states and citizens...

You're a fucking moron, or you're simply like SO many others who choose to ignore for your own personal needs or for the liberal guilt that you house within you... however that guilt is not all that true, or you would donate of yourself rather than having it forced from others while you take credit for generosity

Whatever "Diamond" Dave.

I'm pretty sure I pay more in taxes then you make working at Burger King.

 

[AllieBaba]

I doubt it.

 

[daveman]

The government took over the role of defense. Doesn't matter whether it was "agreed" upon or not. The government is providing the service.

That's socialism.

"Took over"? No, it didn't. It was built in from the beginning.

And this changes the fact it is socialism..how exactly?

Not the point I'm arguing. I'm just saying you're wrong when you say government took it over.

 

[bodecea]

Look....we know that there are socialistic-leaning programs that exist in our country but that does not make us a Socialist State....as you socialist promoters/Obama supporters would want us to believe...we never have been but that's why you guys always dredge up the old deflective arguments...

Capitalism is still alive in America.....albeit barely since BO took office....he is an out-and-out Socialist commie who is leading our country into the MISERY that is Socialism...

He wants to spend us into oblivian....tax us into oblivian....demilitarize us into oblivian....green us into oblivian....regulate us into oblivian....he wants us to become part of the socialistic new world order...top down control everywhere....

Does he promote or even allow Capitalism room to do its OWN thing without his omnipotent STATISM looking over the shoulder and managing every little thing it possibly can.....?

NO....and besides an insignificant sop to Capitalism that what you basically got in his SOTU this year...

try and deny it...

Deny what?

Our economy is by and large..Capitalist. That's absolutely correct.

There are parts of our government that are socialist.

We have a blended economy. I agree with it.

As I've posted before..Capitalism drives the bus. Socialism picks up the loose ends.

I have no idea why this is such a hard concept for conservatives.

The problem you don't seem to grasp is that your wonderful Prez is attempting to throw Capitalism UNDER the bus...

 

[daveman]

The government took over the role of defense. Doesn't matter whether it was "agreed" upon or not. The government is providing the service.

That's socialism.

"Took over"? No, it didn't. It was built in from the beginning.

No it wasn't....thus problems such at Shay's Rebellion.

Article I, Section 8 and Article II, Section 2 disagree with you.

 

[Sallow]

"Took over"? No, it didn't. It was built in from the beginning.

And this changes the fact it is socialism..how exactly?

How about YOU explain to all of us knucle dragging dummies just how it is socialism?

Please enlighten me with your brilliance.

Post #25.

 

[The Infidel]

The government took over the role of defense. Doesn't matter whether it was "agreed" upon or not. The government is providing the service.

That's socialism.

"Took over"? No, it didn't. It was built in from the beginning.

No it wasn't....thus problems such at Shay's Rebellion.

Shay?



You cant even spell your heroes name correctly....

 

[Sallow]

"Took over"? No, it didn't. It was built in from the beginning.

And this changes the fact it is socialism..how exactly?

Not the point I'm arguing. I'm just saying you're wrong when you say government took it over.

It did.

 

[The Infidel]

It's not a hard concept and we grasp it.

What the left doesn't get is that our POTUS is a socialist, if not an actual commie, and is trying to drag the US down. Deny it if you like, it's true.

As a socialist .. Obama is a long ass way from even being a liberal or a progressive. He disdains them both.

He is a corporatist .. just like every American president is a corporatist.

You are aware that his biggest backers in the election was Wall Street aren't you?

You can't be the POTUS UNLESS you're a corporatist.

BULLSHIT....!

He's a socialist a president as we have EVER had... maybe the MOST, but that aside... he is definaltely not a POTUS with Americas best interests at heart.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Now you are wrong and preaching Socialism.

Idiot.. you indeed are wrong.. the United States as an entity is specifically a union of 50 states and the district of columbia in a form of government known as a constitutional republic...

And it is the likes of YOU who preach socialist programs, statist policies, and government enforced wealth redistribution my taking 2 words out of context and ignoring the rest of the constitution that strictly limits congressional powers and delegates all other powers to the states and citizens...

You're a fucking moron, or you're simply like SO many others who choose to ignore for your own personal needs or for the liberal guilt that you house within you... however that guilt is not all that true, or you would donate of yourself rather than having it forced from others while you take credit for generosity

Whatever "Diamond" Dave.

I'm pretty sure I pay more in taxes then you make working at Burger King.

and if you continue to support the socialist commies in office you will pay even more....and more taxes....until you and Burger King employees are "equal"....i can smell the nirvana from here...

 

[BlackAsCoal]

It's not a hard concept and we grasp it.

What the left doesn't get is that our POTUS is a socialist, if not an actual commie, and is trying to drag the US down. Deny it if you like, it's true.

As a socialist .. Obama is a long ass way from even being a liberal or a progressive. He disdains them both.

He is a corporatist .. just like every American president is a corporatist.

You are aware that he biggest backers in the election was Wall Street aren't you?

You can't be the POTUS UNLESS you're a corporatist.

I've never even heard that term before.

I know that the agenda he pushes is a socialist/communist one. what he is personally, I don't care or know...I know that those who push socialism and communism are corrupt, self-serving, and megamaniacal.

With all due respect .. you use both socialist and communist because you don't understand the terms. One is not the other .. AND .. government does not tax any socialized (for the public good) services

Public highways are one of the finest examples of Socialism in America. So are public schools, public parks and public libraries. Not to mention Social Security and Medicare. And police departments and town garbage collections and public health care and so on and so on .. basically, anything "public" is socialism

 

[The Infidel]

And this changes the fact it is socialism..how exactly?

How about YOU explain to all of us knucle dragging dummies just how it is socialism?

Please enlighten me with your brilliance.

Post #25.

That does'nt explain shit.

You are wrong... plain and simple.

WRONG!

 

[daveman]

And this changes the fact it is socialism..how exactly?

Not the point I'm arguing. I'm just saying you're wrong when you say government took it over.

It did.

Article I, Section 8 and Article II, Section 2 disagree with you, too.

 

[DiamondDave]

Now you are wrong and preaching Socialism.

Idiot.. you indeed are wrong.. the United States as an entity is specifically a union of 50 states and the district of columbia in a form of government known as a constitutional republic...

And it is the likes of YOU who preach socialist programs, statist policies, and government enforced wealth redistribution my taking 2 words out of context and ignoring the rest of the constitution that strictly limits congressional powers and delegates all other powers to the states and citizens...

You're a fucking moron, or you're simply like SO many others who choose to ignore for your own personal needs or for the liberal guilt that you house within you... however that guilt is not all that true, or you would donate of yourself rather than having it forced from others while you take credit for generosity

Whatever "Diamond" Dave.

I'm pretty sure I pay more in taxes then you make working at Burger King.

Well.. whether I'm a fry cook, a garbage man, a firefighter, a CEO, a construction worker or whatever... and whether you believe you pay more in taxes.. is of no relevance... the simple construct of the constitution and simple reading comprehension does seem beyond you though