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Re the bolded:. False. Competitors also have to pay the new, higher tax as well. The result is that ALL scooters will be more expensive. ALL scooter companies will be raising the price of scooters roughly the same amount. The consumer pays more in order to cover the tax, but the scooter sellers are still competitive with each other.
How about ignorance? Remember Republicans in 2008 called me stupid for claiming US companies don't pay taxes.Greed. It will be the downfall of us.
How about ignorance? Remember Republicans in 2008 called me stupid for claiming US companies don't pay taxes.Greed. It will be the downfall of us.
Then once they couldn't deny it they actually argue that they shouldn't pay taxes.
And like free trade they'll point to Obama's economy czar CEO from GE and try to blame liberals for the fact corporations don't pay taxes.
They'll completely forgot they were OK that companies don't pay taxes. They will also forget they approved while they blame liberals. It's impossible to get honesty or intelligence out of a Republican
Especially when they were fortunate to work when workers got paid well. Now they think we aren't worth what they were paid.Evading taxes isn't the ONLY thing they do either. I have to also say that I get a kick out of all of these retired people who are comfortable collecting their retirement and social security, sitting behind their computers bloviating, who feel that they have any knowledge of what it's like out in the REAL world.
Re the bolded:. False. Competitors also have to pay the new, higher tax as well. The result is that ALL scooters will be more expensive. ALL scooter companies will be raising the price of scooters roughly the same amount. The consumer pays more in order to cover the tax, but the scooter sellers are still competitive with each other.
Until one of the competitors moves his production plant to Mexico or another country where they do business. Then they will have a lower price, how does that work for those with the higher prices? Do you remember what happened when Volkswagon started selling cheap, stripped down cars American's loved! Remember the vase?
Evading taxes isn't the ONLY thing they do either. I have to also say that I get a kick out of all of these retired people who are comfortable collecting their retirement and social security, sitting behind their computers bloviating, who feel that they have any knowledge of what it's like out in the REAL world.
Those retired people worked for over 40 years. And they paid in to social security during those years.
Evading taxes isn't the ONLY thing they do either. I have to also say that I get a kick out of all of these retired people who are comfortable collecting their retirement and social security, sitting behind their computers bloviating, who feel that they have any knowledge of what it's like out in the REAL world.
Those retired people worked for over 40 years. And they paid in to social security during those years. And they did so with the expectation that they would receive ss when they required to help them live. And for the most part, they are getting enough to live in poverty from ss. If they are getting retirement, they are lucky. Most do not. Because corporations long ago stopped paying retirement.
On ss, the average retired worker makes exactly $1340 per mont. Or just about $16,000 per year. Hardly enough to bloviate about. That puts them well below the poverty level.
The Average American Gets This Much From Social Security. How Do You Compare? -- The Motley Fool
For the few who have pension plans, here are the stats.
Under pension plans of medium and large firms, employees retiring on January 1, 1984, at age 65 after 30 years of service would have received monthly pensions averaging from $385 for those earning $15,000 in 1983 to $886 for those earning $40,000. The corresponding range for employees retiring after 20 years of service was $263 to $623 .
http://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/1985/12/art5full.pdf
So something like $500 per month. That brings them up to around $22,000 per year. Hardly enough to bloviate about. Just enough to worry how to pay basic bills with.
Evading taxes isn't the ONLY thing they do either. I have to also say that I get a kick out of all of these retired people who are comfortable collecting their retirement and social security, sitting behind their computers bloviating, who feel that they have any knowledge of what it's like out in the REAL world.
Evading taxes isn't the ONLY thing they do either. I have to also say that I get a kick out of all of these retired people who are comfortable collecting their retirement and social security, sitting behind their computers bloviating, who feel that they have any knowledge of what it's like out in the REAL world.
Those retired people worked for over 40 years. And they paid in to social security during those years. And they did so with the expectation that they would receive ss when they required to help them live. And for the most part, they are getting enough to live in poverty from ss. If they are getting retirement, they are lucky. Most do not. Because corporations long ago stopped paying retirement.
On ss, the average retired worker makes exactly $1340 per mont. Or just about $16,000 per year. Hardly enough to bloviate about. That puts them well below the poverty level.
The Average American Gets This Much From Social Security. How Do You Compare? -- The Motley Fool
For the few who have pension plans, here are the stats.
Under pension plans of medium and large firms, employees retiring on January 1, 1984, at age 65 after 30 years of service would have received monthly pensions averaging from $385 for those earning $15,000 in 1983 to $886 for those earning $40,000. The corresponding range for employees retiring after 20 years of service was $263 to $623 .
http://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/1985/12/art5full.pdf
So something like $500 per month. That brings them up to around $22,000 per year. Hardly enough to bloviate about. Just enough to worry how to pay basic bills with.
Evading taxes isn't the ONLY thing they do either. I have to also say that I get a kick out of all of these retired people who are comfortable collecting their retirement and social security, sitting behind their computers bloviating, who feel that they have any knowledge of what it's like out in the REAL world.
Those retired people worked for over 40 years. And they paid in to social security during those years. And they did so with the expectation that they would receive ss when they required to help them live. And for the most part, they are getting enough to live in poverty from ss. If they are getting retirement, they are lucky. Most do not. Because corporations long ago stopped paying retirement.
On ss, the average retired worker makes exactly $1340 per mont. Or just about $16,000 per year. Hardly enough to bloviate about. That puts them well below the poverty level.
The Average American Gets This Much From Social Security. How Do You Compare? -- The Motley Fool
For the few who have pension plans, here are the stats.
Under pension plans of medium and large firms, employees retiring on January 1, 1984, at age 65 after 30 years of service would have received monthly pensions averaging from $385 for those earning $15,000 in 1983 to $886 for those earning $40,000. The corresponding range for employees retiring after 20 years of service was $263 to $623 .
http://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/1985/12/art5full.pdf
So something like $500 per month. That brings them up to around $22,000 per year. Hardly enough to bloviate about. Just enough to worry how to pay basic bills with.
Yes, that is true. It is not an investment program.Evading taxes isn't the ONLY thing they do either. I have to also say that I get a kick out of all of these retired people who are comfortable collecting their retirement and social security, sitting behind their computers bloviating, who feel that they have any knowledge of what it's like out in the REAL world.
Those retired people worked for over 40 years. And they paid in to social security during those years. And they did so with the expectation that they would receive ss when they required to help them live. And for the most part, they are getting enough to live in poverty from ss. If they are getting retirement, they are lucky. Most do not. Because corporations long ago stopped paying retirement.
On ss, the average retired worker makes exactly $1340 per mont. Or just about $16,000 per year. Hardly enough to bloviate about. That puts them well below the poverty level.
The Average American Gets This Much From Social Security. How Do You Compare? -- The Motley Fool
For the few who have pension plans, here are the stats.
Under pension plans of medium and large firms, employees retiring on January 1, 1984, at age 65 after 30 years of service would have received monthly pensions averaging from $385 for those earning $15,000 in 1983 to $886 for those earning $40,000. The corresponding range for employees retiring after 20 years of service was $263 to $623 .
http://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/1985/12/art5full.pdf
So something like $500 per month. That brings them up to around $22,000 per year. Hardly enough to bloviate about. Just enough to worry how to pay basic bills with.
People who pay into Social Security are not putting that money into a "savings account" for themselves. That money goes to people who are CURRENTLY collecting social security benefits.
Anyways, that wasn't the point. The point is that these people are out of touch with the real working world of today.
People who pay into Social Security are not putting that money into a "savings account" for themselves.
Greed. It will be the downfall of us.
Yes, that is true. It is not an investment program.Evading taxes isn't the ONLY thing they do either. I have to also say that I get a kick out of all of these retired people who are comfortable collecting their retirement and social security, sitting behind their computers bloviating, who feel that they have any knowledge of what it's like out in the REAL world.
Those retired people worked for over 40 years. And they paid in to social security during those years. And they did so with the expectation that they would receive ss when they required to help them live. And for the most part, they are getting enough to live in poverty from ss. If they are getting retirement, they are lucky. Most do not. Because corporations long ago stopped paying retirement.
On ss, the average retired worker makes exactly $1340 per mont. Or just about $16,000 per year. Hardly enough to bloviate about. That puts them well below the poverty level.
The Average American Gets This Much From Social Security. How Do You Compare? -- The Motley Fool
For the few who have pension plans, here are the stats.
Under pension plans of medium and large firms, employees retiring on January 1, 1984, at age 65 after 30 years of service would have received monthly pensions averaging from $385 for those earning $15,000 in 1983 to $886 for those earning $40,000. The corresponding range for employees retiring after 20 years of service was $263 to $623 .
http://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/1985/12/art5full.pdf
So something like $500 per month. That brings them up to around $22,000 per year. Hardly enough to bloviate about. Just enough to worry how to pay basic bills with.
People who pay into Social Security are not putting that money into a "savings account" for themselves. That money goes to people who are CURRENTLY collecting social security benefits.
Anyways, that wasn't the point. The point is that these people are out of touch with the real working world of today.
As to whether the retirees are out of touch, that is your opinion. But, I am retired, and feel fully in touch. And that is my opinion. And my opinion is that after a good income, trying to live on ue would be impossible, and watching conservatives attack the program is proof that they are shits.
Greed. It will be the downfall of us.
There is good greed and bad greed. Without good greed, America would not be the greatest nation the world has ever seen.
Greed. It will be the downfall of us.
There is good greed and bad greed. Without good greed, America would not be the greatest nation the world has ever seen.
Well, the question is always, do people work for the money or for the good the work does. It seems to me most people who get very rich keep working anyway because the work is more meaningful than the money or being a beach vegetable to them. This makes it hard to call them greedy at all.
Steve Jobs, for example, would perhaps write on his tombstone: here lies the man who invented the PC, not, here lies a man who was worth $18 billion.
