Most Red States Take More Money From Washington Than They Put In

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

I had no idea so many cons were sucking from the government. No wonder Obama can't rebalance Bush's unbalanced budget.

You voted for this. Why are you bitching about it?

 

[Oddball]

I had no idea so many cons were sucking from the government. No wonder Obama can't rebalance Bush's unbalanced budget.

Not counting the current dishonest campaign prop, here has been one (1) budget proposed in the last three years...It was shot down in the Senate 97-0.

Dumber than a bag of hammers.....

 

[Misty]

Another liberal lie.*

"This article from USA Today compiled data showing which states had the highest per capita expenditures for every type of government-provided benefit and blue states top the list and red states made up most of the bottom 10.
New Yorkers lead pack in government benefits - USATODAY.com"

Top 10 - Most dependent on government aid
1 New York
2 West Virginia
3 Rhode Island
4 Maine
5 Pennsylvania
6 Massachusetts
7 Vermont
8 Kentucky
9 Michigan
10 Connecticut

Bottom 10 - Least dependent on government aid
41 South Dakota
42 Nebraska
43 Wyoming
44 Idaho
45 Georgia
46 Texas
47 Nevada
48 Virginia
49 Colorado
50 Utah

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Another liberal lie.*

"This article from USA Today compiled data showing which states had the highest per capita expenditures for every type of government-provided benefit and blue states top the list and red states made up most of the bottom 10.
New Yorkers lead pack in government benefits - USATODAY.com"

Top 10 - Most dependent on government aid
1 New York
2 West Virginia
3 Rhode Island
4 Maine
5 Pennsylvania
6 Massachusetts
7 Vermont
8 Kentucky
9 Michigan
10 Connecticut

Bottom 10 - Least dependent on government aid
41 South Dakota
42 Nebraska
43 Wyoming
44 Idaho
45 Georgia
46 Texas
47 Nevada
48 Virginia
49 Colorado
50 Utah

no source link?

figures

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

America's fiscal union: The red and the black | The Economist

Here's a start from a reputable source:

America's fiscal union
The red and the black

Aug 1st 2011, 16:16 by The Economist online

Where federal taxes are raised and spent

SOME American states receive more in federal spending than they pay in federal taxes; others receive less.

See the full data below:

The article states "Where did these transfers come from? New York transferred over $950 billion to the rest of America’s fiscal union from 1990 to 2009. But relative to the size of its economy, Delaware made the biggest contribution, equivalent to more than twice its 2009 GDP. "

now isn't that special?

Yes, even the much maligned California comes out ahead.

I notice the cons try to change the parameters of the data in order to deny the facts presented:

America's fiscal union: The red and the black | The Economist

Here's a start from a reputable source:

America's fiscal union
The red and the black

Aug 1st 2011, 16:16 by The Economist online

Where federal taxes are raised and spent

SOME American states receive more in federal spending than they pay in federal taxes; others receive less.

See the full data below:

The article states "Where did these transfers come from? New York transferred over $950 billion to the rest of America’s fiscal union from 1990 to 2009. But relative to the size of its economy, Delaware made the biggest contribution, equivalent to more than twice its 2009 GDP. "

now isn't that special?

Yes, even the much maligned California comes out ahead.

I notice the cons try to change the parameters of the data in order to deny the facts presented:

America's fiscal union: The red and the black | The Economist

Here's a start from a reputable source:

America's fiscal union
The red and the black

Aug 1st 2011, 16:16 by The Economist online

Where federal taxes are raised and spent

SOME American states receive more in federal spending than they pay in federal taxes; others receive less.

See the full data below:

The article states "Where did these transfers come from? New York transferred over $950 billion to the rest of America’s fiscal union from 1990 to 2009. But relative to the size of its economy, Delaware made the biggest contribution, equivalent to more than twice its 2009 GDP. "

now isn't that special?

Yes, even the much maligned California comes out ahead.

I notice the cons try to change the parameters of the data in order to deny the facts presented:
SOME American states receive more in federal spending than they pay in federal taxes; others receive less.

 

[rdean]

I just saw a chart on TV that showed the majority of money from the government that helps people are from Social Security, Medicare and unemployment.

The majority of Americans receiving money from these three programs are "Republicans" over Democrats 23% to 17%. I'm still looking for the charts, but seriously, would it be a surprise? Look how "old" the Republican Party is.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Another liberal lie.*

"This article from USA Today compiled data showing which states had the highest per capita expenditures for every type of government-provided benefit and blue states top the list and red states made up most of the bottom 10.
New Yorkers lead pack in government benefits - USATODAY.com"

Top 10 - Most dependent on government aid
1 New York
2 West Virginia
3 Rhode Island
4 Maine
5 Pennsylvania
6 Massachusetts
7 Vermont
8 Kentucky
9 Michigan
10 Connecticut

Bottom 10 - Least dependent on government aid
41 South Dakota
42 Nebraska
43 Wyoming
44 Idaho
45 Georgia
46 Texas
47 Nevada
48 Virginia
49 Colorado
50 Utah

no source link?

figures

links....
http://www.census.gov/prod/2011pubs/fas-10.pdf
Percentage of State Revenues from Federal Aid | The Pelican Post

The bottom line.....There are several different ways to look at federal spending as it relates to states.
There is no correlation to political leanings in federal spending.
Therefore, the point of this thread is moot.
The top 10 most dependent on federal aid as it relates to percentage of total state spending.
1. Oklahoma 50.6%
2. Louisiana 50.0%
3. South Dakota 45.6%
4. Mississippi 45.6%
5. South Carolina 44.8%
6. Tennessee 44.3%
7. California 43.3%
8. Michigan 42.1%
9. Pennsylvania 41.7%
10. Alabama 41.6%
The bottom 10


41. New Jersey 28.7%
42. Utah 28.4%
43. Washington 26.6%
44. Virginia 22.9%
45. Ohio 22.6%
46. Hawaii 21.8%
47. West Virginia 21.8%
48. Wyoming 18.7%
49. Connecticut 11.9%
50. Massachusetts 10.7%

 

[Listening]

The reason most red states get more money form the federal government then they pay is because red states economies are so much shitter due to the implementation of conservative policies

That is why the midwest has a much lower overall unemployment rate.

Get a clue.

 

[Listening]

How many times are we going to have a thread on this subject?

Here's a solution for you: abolish those welfare programs you despise so much.

Lakhota seems to have limited range...so you need to cut him some slack.

I agree with you....let's kill the programs and the red states will starve to death. I mean what more can these liberals want ?

I'd love to see that given a try. Then all those red low incomers like blacks and hispanics can find jobs and get off the dole...oh wait....don't blacks and hispanics vote blue ?

Yes, well that tells me that a red state that takes in more federal dollars might have nothing to do with being red at all.

 

[Chris]

Red states need more money because they are more backward.

Voting is like driving a car....

Select (D) to go forward
Select (R) to go backwards

 

[Listening]

Red states need more money because they are more backward.

Voting is like driving a car....

Select (D) to go forward
Select (R) to go backwards

How funny it is to point out that those states that are "red" that need that money used to take in a lot more (in proportion) when they were blue.

Reading your posts is like watching Special Olympics.

 

[bripat9643]

Red states need more money because they are more backward.

Voting is like driving a car....

Select (D) to go forward
Select (R) to go backwards

The sad part is that you think such "logic" is convincing.

 

[Listening]

Red states need more money because they are more backward.

Voting is like driving a car....

Select (D) to go forward
Select (R) to go backwards

The sad part is that you think such "logic" is convincing.

Oh wait...I predict a ChrissyInkOff Graph.

 

[Jroc]

Red states need more money because they are more backward.

Voting is like driving a car....

Select (D) to go forward
Select (R) to go backwards

D to drive off the cliff
R to stop and reverse course

 

[Lakhota]

I just saw a chart on TV that showed the majority of money from the government that helps people are from Social Security, Medicare and unemployment.

The majority of Americans receiving money from these three programs are "Republicans" over Democrats 23% to 17%. I'm still looking for the charts, but seriously, would it be a surprise? Look how "old" the Republican Party is.

I saw the same chart on TV. I think it was on The Ed Show.

 

[Lakhota]

By Shankar Vedantam

If Democrats are the big spenders, why do Republican states get the money?

One of the co-chairmen of President Obama's bipartisan debt reduction council recently got in trouble for telling a women's advocacy group that Social Security had "reached a point now where it's like a milk cow with 310 million tits!"

If you guessed it was the Republican co-chairman and not the Democrat who said it, you would be right—it was former Wyoming Sen. Alan Simpson—but therein hangs a tale.

Republicans have a near monopoly on complaints about government spending. Dozens of new Tea Party candidates were elected to Congress on a promise to clean house. But data going back two decades—to stick to Simpson's crude metaphor—show the milk is mostly coming from Democratic states, and the sucking is being done by Republican states.

The "red" states up in arms about government spending receive the largest share of it. This is not a new finding, but research by economist Gary Richardson at the University of California-Irvine backs it up. Richardson provides insight into how the paradox came about and what it means for the future.

More: If Democrats are the big spenders, why do Republican states get the money? - Slate Magazine

 

[Lakhota]

Daily Kos: Tea Party U.S.A.: We Want to Suckle at the Government Tit, But There is No Space for You

The New York Times: Even Critics of Safety Net Increasingly Depend on It

 

[Oddball]

Daily Kos: Tea Party U.S.A.: We Want to Suckle at the Government Tit, But There is No Space for You

The New York Times: Even Critics of Safety Net Increasingly Depend on It

Maybe you should start reading some of the dreck you post as "evidence".

From the NYT piece:

The government safety net was created to keep Americans from abject poverty, but the poorest households no longer receive a majority of government benefits. A secondary mission has gradually become primary: maintaining the middle class from childhood through retirement. The share of benefits flowing to the least affluent households, the bottom fifth, has declined from 54 percent in 1979 to 36 percent in 2007, according to a Congressional Budget Office analysis published last year.

And as more middle-class families like the Gulbransons land in the safety net in Chisago and similar communities, anger at the government has increased alongside. Many people say they are angry because the government is wasting money and giving money to people who do not deserve it. But more than that, they say they want to reduce the role of government in their own lives. They are frustrated that they need help, feel guilty for taking it and resent the government for providing it. They say they want less help for themselves; less help in caring for relatives; less assistance when they reach old age.

Idjit.