More Than 6 Million Illegals Hold Jobs in US

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    don't worry..soon they will be citizens and you won't be able to say that anymore
     
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    Don't worry they are only doing jobs Americans wont do remember.

    You know like Construction....Oh wait Americans will do that.
     
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    What about the Phd shortage,we had with advanced computer CPU programers.They
    had to import many Indians from India with Phd's to fill a lot of those Jobs, at a %50 percent
    paycut.
     
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    And, since the Dems removed the eVerify provision from the Trillion dollar crap sandwich, now employer will not be provided the means to ensure the people they hire for all those "shovel ready" construction jobs are actually citizens.

    The Repubs put it in, the Dems took it out.
     
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    I find it amazing that you guys now see this is a problem. Or, you are going to try to make this the fault of Democrats.

    Well if you want to say the housing crisis is "everyones fault", then this topic for sure is the fault of both parties.

    The Dems want the hispanic vote so they cater to them. The bleeding heart liberals fight for them too.

    But, if it weren't for illegal employers, Democrats and bleeding heart liberals wouldn't be able to keep the illegals here.

    PS. It is more like 12 million illegals living here.

    And because you guys love Thom Hartmann

    ThomHartmann.com - Reclaiming the Issues: "It's an Illegal Employer Problem"


    ThomHartmann.com - Today's Immigration Battle Corporatists vs. Racists (and Labor is Left Behind)

    ThomHartmann.com - Illegal Workers: the Con's Secret Weapon
     
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    Aren't these business owners who are hiring illegals mostly Republicans?

    This was a problem on Bush's watch. It divided your party, remember? On one side were the racist minute men and on the other side of the isle are the illegal employers who love to hire slave labor.

    I happen to agree with the racist minute men.

    Remember the Dubai Port deal? Bush was getting away with all kinds of crazy decisions. And you guys defended every one of his decisions. The first time you guys disagreed with him was the Dubai Port Deal. Imagine selling port security to arab nations. :cuckoo:

    Then there was the Illegal employer problem we had/have. Lou Dobbs championed this cause. Correct? You guys will try to blame democrats when the reality is that it is your people who are hiring them.

    This everify argument is as weak as the Freddy/Fanny spin you guys put on the housing crisis.
     
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    I'm going to surprise you bobo....you're right. In part.

    Yes, the Dems cater to them because they don't care if they destroy the country if it means they will get and keep power. So it doesn't matter if the illegals overrun and destroy the country if it looks like they can be a voting constituency.

    I don't believe there is a difference between Dems and Libs anymore. There used to be, but I'm not seeing it now. So you draw a distinction without a difference.

    I'm not sure where you were going with housing...so I'm living that alone.

    Illegal employers are for sure a problem. That would be why the Republicans put the eVerify provision in the Trillion dollar shit sandwich. That way employers can quickly and accurately know whether the person applying for the job is legal or not.

    So why did the Dems take it out?
     
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    Trade agreements? Problems with the system? I don't know why.

    But I told you why both parties protect illegal immigration. I don't like it.

    And thank God neither do you. That's why this is an issue the politicians worry about. Because this issue makes people like you and me agree. They hate that!!!
     
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    You act like no Democrat is an employer dumb ass.

    Just when you almost sound like you got something right, you snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

    First, don't talk about Bush to me. You will not find one single post on here where I supported Bush. Bush and I may have ended up on the same side of an issue or two but that was coincidence not support. I didn't like him in 1999 or 2000 and it never got better. Now I liked the other guy less but that's your fault.

    I give a shit about Dobbs, but employers should be punished for employing illegals. I'm fully in favor of it. They are breaking the law and they need to get the max. And, if the max isn't enough, then we need to strengthen the punishment. Maybe the death penalty for their corporation would be good too. You hire and illegal and get caught, we sell your corporation to the highest bidder.

    What is your gripe about eVerify? I don't know the specifics other than it is supposed to provide the means for employers to enforce the law since the fucking Federal Government won't do their job.
     

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