More evidence that more gun laws are not what is needed in the US

[Unkotare]

Who were they granted by

Our creator.

 

[sartre play]

We do not need more gun laws, WE need less. But the laws we do decide on MUST be followed & systems Must be in place to make sure this happens.

 

[M14 Shooter]

We do not need more gun laws, WE need less.

Buy some, and destoy them.
I'm keeping mine, and will almost certainly buy more.

But the laws we do decide on MUST be followed & systems Must be in place to make sure this happens.

Glad you agree that Hunter Biden should be in jail.

 

[Unkotare]

”Freedom” is accepting the Rights granted by our great founders…no?

Our rights were not granted by the Founding Fathers.

 

[BrokeLoser]

Our rights were not granted by the Founding Fathers.

Who authored the Constitution?

 

[Unkotare]

Who authored the Constitution?

Our rights weren't granted by the Constitution, they were enumerated therein.

 

[BrokeLoser]

Our rights weren't granted by the Constitution, they were enumerated therein.

Haha…I kinda like what you’re passively implying.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

We do not need more gun laws, WE need less. But the laws we do decide on MUST be followed & systems Must be in place to make sure this happens.

Never happen under Democrat leadership in states and cities. They virtually give their violent criminals a slap on the hand if that and they have no fear in committing crimes with guns or any other weapon of choice.

The problem in our country with violent crimes are not guns, the problem with violent crime in our country are Democrats.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Switzerland has a stunningly high rate of gun ownership — here's why it doesn't have mass shootings

Here's what the US can learn from Switzerland, which has nearly eliminated mass shootings while maintaining a high rate of gun ownership.

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Switzerland has a stunningly high rate of gun ownership — here's why it doesn't have mass shootings

Here's what the US can learn from Switzerland, which has nearly eliminated mass shootings while maintaining a high rate of gun ownership.

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Switzerland hasn't had a mass shooting since 2001, when a man stormed the local parliament in Zug, killing 14 people and then himself.

The country has about 2 million privately owned guns in a nation of 8.3 million people. In 2016, the country had 47 attempted homicides with firearms. The country's overall murder rate is near zero.

The National Rifle Association often points to Switzerland to argue that more rules on gun ownership aren't necessary. In 2016, the NRA said on its blog that the European country had one of the lowest murder rates in the world while still having millions of privately owned guns and a few hunting weapons that don't even require a permit.

But the Swiss have some specific rules and regulations for gun use.

Insider took a look at the country's past with guns to see why it has lower rates of gun violence than the US, where after a mass shooting that killed 5 and injured 25 at an LGBTQ+ nightclub in Colorado, gun-death rates are now at their highest in more than 20 years, and the leading cause of death for children and adolescents.

Zurich's Knabenschiessen is a traditional annual festival that dates back to the 1600s.
Though the word roughly translates to "boys shooting" and the competition used to be only boys, teenage girls have been allowed in since 1991.
Kids in the country flock to the competition every September to compete in target shooting using Swiss army-service rifles. They're proud to show off how well they can shoot.
The competition values accuracy above all else, and officials crown a Schutzenkonig — a king or queen of marksmen — based on results.


The Swiss stance is one of "armed neutrality."

Switzerland hasn't taken part in any international armed conflict since 1815, but some Swiss soldiers help with peacekeeping missions around the world.

Many Swiss see gun ownership as part of a patriotic duty to protect their homeland.

Unlike the US, Switzerland has mandatory military service for men.
The government gives all men between the ages of 18 and 34 deemed "fit for service" a pistol or a rifle and training on how to use them.
After they've finished their service, the men can typically buy and keep their service weapons, but they have to get a permit for them.
In recent years, the Swiss government has voted to reduce the size of the country's armed forces.


Switzerland's borders are basically designed to blow up on command, with at least 3,000 demolition points on bridges, roads, rails, and tunnels around the landlocked European country.

John McPhee put it this way in his book "La Place de la Concorde Suisse":

"Near the German border of Switzerland, every railroad and highway tunnel has been prepared to pinch shut explosively. Nearby mountains have been made so porous that whole divisions can fit inside them."

In 2000, more than 25% of Swiss gun owners said they kept their weapon for military or police duty, while less than 5% of Americans said the same.

The Swiss government has estimated that about half of the privately owned guns in the country are former service rifles. But there are signs the Swiss gun-to-human ratio is dwindling.

In 2007, the Small Arms Survey found that Switzerland had the third-highest ratio of civilian firearms per 100 residents (46), outdone by only the US (89) and Yemen (55).

But it seems that figure has dropped over the past decade. The University of Sydney now estimates that there's about one civilian gun for every three Swiss people.

All fascinating stuff.

But the Swiss has not been overrun with leftists like the US has. As a result, it does not have a government at war with half or more of it's citizens. The Swiss seem to value the Patriarchal family, they are proud of their culture and history and not ashamed of it as they try to eradicate it at all costs. Drugs are not flowing across an uncontrolled border and destroying society, etc.

They also have some of the most stringent immigration laws in the world.

Switzerland is like a right wing utopia.

So why does the Left seem to leave them the hell alone? You guessed it, all the corrupt Leftists put their money there.

It's difficult to compare gun or violent crimes of a white or nearly all white country with ours due to our diversity. For instance over 50% of our murders are committed by just 7% of our population which are black males. Other countries don't have such issues to deal with. So it's more than just guns.

If you take a nice safe middle-class white suburb, create a law that all households must have a firearm, their crime rate will not change. If you go to a high crime ghetto, create a law that nobody is allowed to own a firearm, their crime rate will not change either.

What does this tell us? It's people--not guns that are the problem.

 

[cnm]

”Freedom” is accepting the Rights granted by our great founders…no?

Like the three fifths freely accepted the rights granted by your great founders? Absolutely.
Freedom! the sine qua non of American values. I'm pretty envious about it, all right. Why can't we have freedom like this?

 

[cnm]

It's difficult to compare gun or violent crimes of a white or nearly all white country with ours due to our diversity.

Only if by 'diversity' you mean systemic discrimination against POC. The usual self serving, mealy mouthed excuse. As if the majority of US population is not 'white'.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Only if by 'diversity' you mean systemic discrimination against POC. The usual self serving, mealy mouthed excuse. As if the majority of US population is not 'white'.

What does that have to do with it? It doesn't change statistics. When you look at our country as a whole and say "this is a violent country with a lot of gun crime and they don't have that in white countries" it's not the guns that are the problem. That's the point.

It's like I've said so many times, take a nice safe middle-class white suburb, make a law that all households must have a firearm, their crime statistics will not change. Go to a high-crime minority city and make a law that nobody is allowed to own a gun, their crime statistics will not change either.

The point is guns are not the problem. It's the type of people we have in our country that's the problem.

 

[BrokeLoser]

Like the three fifths freely accepted the rights granted by your great founders? Absolutely.
Freedom! the sine qua non of American values. I'm pretty envious about it, all right. Why can't we have freedom like this?

I’ll say it again….you freedom hating filth can easily solve ANOTHER problem you cause by passing laws that keep guns out of the hands of dark Democrats……TA-DA!

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[DukeU]

Freedom!

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[cnm]

When you look at our country as a whole and say "this is a violent country with a lot of gun crime and they don't have that in white countries" it's not the guns that are the problem. That's the point.

The point is that many countries are as 'diverse' as the US, you dog whistling racist, but because they control the weapons their homicide and mass shooting rates are fractions of that of the US.
You will just keep making excuses for your penis extensions no matter what facts are bought forward. This is understood, no worries.

 

[cnm]

I’ll say it again….you freedom hating filth can easily solve ANOTHER problem you cause by passing laws that keep guns out of the hands of dark Democrats……TA-DA!

Taking Freedom! from people? That's not the American way, Shirley.

Freedom for all!

Isn't that what you say the founders wanted? Have you ever seen people so free as those above? I haven't. It's wonderful. Look at all that liberty. Hurrah!

You guys know how to do it, all right.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

The point is that many countries are as 'diverse' as the US, you dog whistling racist, but because they control the weapons their homicide and mass shooting rates are fractions of that of the US.
You will just keep making excuses for your penis extensions no matter what facts are bought forward. This is understood, no worries.

Then why is it when you commies compare countries it's always mostly white European countries to ours? And there you go with that attempted reverse psychology crap with dicks again. Hint: It doesn't work. You are an amateur and so transparent the late Ray Charles could see it. Grow up already.

 

[BrokeLoser]

The point is that many countries are as 'diverse' as the US, you dog whistling racist, but because they control the weapons their homicide and mass shooting rates are fractions of that of the US.
You will just keep making excuses for your penis extensions no matter what facts are bought forward. This is understood, no worries.

I like your logic…lets expand on it….Why deprive whites, Asians and other law abiding groups of constitutional rights…why not just focus on “controlling the weapons” as you say….by keeping them from dark Democrats?

 

[BrokeLoser]

Then why is it when you commies compare countries it's always mostly white European countries to ours? And there you go with that attempted reverse psychology crap with dicks again. Hint: It doesn't work. You are an amateur and so transparent the late Ray Charles could see it. Grow up already.

Like all filthy Libs… cnm doesn’t really care to solve problems….if it did it would be all for legislation that would keep guns from dark people.

 

[candycorn]

But the Swiss have some specific rules and regulations for gun use.

Can we put the same rules into effect here? Will you sign off on that?