More babies died in US than 68 other countries.

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    If only the anti-Choice fanatics were as upset about this as they are about abortion.

    More US babies die day they are born than any industrialized country, report shows - Vitals

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    More folks are concerned about using our tax dollars to fund Planned Parenthood rather than encourage folks to redirect their money through a charitable fund to go to March Of Dimes.
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    Has nothing to do with what I was talking about, but okay.

    Here's the thing. We are the only major industrialized country that doesn't have single payer health coverage for all our citizens.

    And not surprisingly, we have the highest infant mortality rate in the industrialized world and higher than a lot of third world countries as well.
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    The US has a different standard for measuring the infant mortality rate than do most other countries, fyi. For example, the infant mortality rate includes, as defined by the US, babies who are born prematurely yet die, or even the stillborn, whereas many European countries, for example, do not count the later two instances as "infant mortality", which cause those European countries' infant mortality rate to appear lower than the US'.

    Of course, this isn't new news by any means, but who needs fact when you have partisan ranting, right?
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    Unbiased link to that info?
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    Being against abortion isn't about saving lives. Most "pro-life" folks are pro-gun, pro-war, pro-death penalty and are against all social programs that save lives.

    It's about control and punishment.
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    Why don't you find something you trust... like maybe World Net Daily. :cuckoo:
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    Just think we have obamacare to look forward too.
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    Most infant mortality data is spread over a few years to avoid any spikes in a single year.

    List of countries by infant mortality rate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Yes, we are in the 30's but our mortality rate HAS been inproving over time, something always left out by the doom and gloomers.
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    Yes, well, that's not what the report is about, and the results have absolutely nothing to do with single payer coverage. This is not an indictment of the US healthcare system, but of the social structure which encourages teen pregnancies which lead to premature, low birthweight babies at much greater risk for mortality.

    From your link:

    Family disintegration is a major driver of these results. And as far as the statement "A million babies die every year globally on the same day they were born, including more than 11,000 American newborns, the report estimates. Most of them could be saved with fairly cheap interventions, the group says", these two sentences should be separated. Yes, 11,000 American newborns die as stated, but not as a result of "fairly cheap interventions"; that statement in the context of this report is referring to third world infant deaths, not first world. The major issue in the industrialized world is preterm, underweight babies.

    But I know it's more fun to push an agenda with these kinds of reports and to deride the "evil, uncaring" US, a favorite pastime of the left.
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    Perhaps you should look more into the rate... with the fact that we count everything whereas other countries DO NOT...

    This stat is about as bogus as the WHO debunked bullshit

    And oh, BTW.... we don't have or need single payer health care because government is not your nanny... What our government is to do is protect your freedoms so you can try and take care of yourself..
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    We have more people fucking than 69 other countries.

    Duh.
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    Being pro-life and pro death penalty is about the central issue of taking on some personal responsibility for the choices you make in life. Unfortunately, there is this perception that we must fight to save the lives of the CRIMINALS from facing an outcome that's considered cruel and unusual. It's this twisted notion that violent convicted criminals are worth having the chance to live.
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    Is this per capita? Is the info based on just total numbers?
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    :lol:

    It's incredibly hypocritical of you folks, who preach "personal responsibility" to assign the power of life and death to the state.

    Gotta love it.
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    Actually to a jury of ones peers, in a court setting, with adequate counsel, but you already know that....
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    1.2 million babies are MURDERED in America every year.
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    Sorry, the expiration date on that sound bite is way past expired. :lmao:

    As for the OP, I need a lot more info. This appears to be only part of the story. I'll wait and see.
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    Is this a pro-abortion pitch? Dr. Gosnell should be your hero. He kills them before they become statistics. There are about 15 million illegals in this Country. I wonder how many of the 11,000 newborn deaths they account for? The point is that medical help is available in the greatest Country in the world.
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    Link or name calling?...you decide

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