Moral Confusion of the Left

[Sky Dancer]

Too bad this thread was hijacked by trolls, it was a good op, PC, as usual.

And, as usual, went right over their heads.

It's a flame thread. We get that.

 

[rdean]

Too bad this thread was hijacked by trolls, it was a good op, PC, as usual.

And, as usual, went right over their heads.

It's wrong for people who are morally bankrupt to preach morals to those who actually have morals. Republicans need to look inward before they judge people from other countries, no matter how bad those people are. Look at what they did in Iraq. It was never about freedom. Never about the people. It was greed, pure and simple.

Republicans can't face their own leadership. Can't face what their party stands for. Point anything out to them and they deflect.

 

[Newby]

Too bad this thread was hijacked by trolls, it was a good op, PC, as usual.

And, as usual, went right over their heads.

It's a flame thread. We get that.

Yes, you and your little buddies have turned it into that...

Like I said, over your head.

 

[Buford]

Too bad this thread was hijacked by trolls, it was a good op, PC, as usual.

And, as usual, went right over their heads.

It's wrong for people who are morally bankrupt to preach morals to those who actually have morals. Republicans need to look inward before they judge people from other countries, no matter how bad those people are. Look at what they did in Iraq. It was never about freedom. Never about the people. It was greed, pure and simple.

Republicans can't face their own leadership. Can't face what their party stands for. Point anything out to them and they deflect.

Dems are going to teach us about morals now? That must be why the Dems don't want any kind of ID to be able to vote. Uh huh.

 

[Sky Dancer]

Too bad this thread was hijacked by trolls, it was a good op, PC, as usual.

And, as usual, went right over their heads.

It's wrong for people who are morally bankrupt to preach morals to those who actually have morals. Republicans need to look inward before they judge people from other countries, no matter how bad those people are. Look at what they did in Iraq. It was never about freedom. Never about the people. It was greed, pure and simple.

Republicans can't face their own leadership. Can't face what their party stands for. Point anything out to them and they deflect.

We supported Saddam Hussein. We set the guy up in power. When it was convenient to have Iraq back us against Iran, Saddam was our friend.

The US has a history of supporting dictators when it serves our strategic interest, or the country has some resource we'd like to exploit.

How come we don't question the morality of that?

 

[Sky Dancer]

Too bad this thread was hijacked by trolls, it was a good op, PC, as usual.

And, as usual, went right over their heads.

It's a flame thread. We get that.

Yes, you and your little buddies have turned it into that...

Like I said, over your head.

The OP title is inflammatory. That appears to be over YOUR head.

 

[Artevelde]

Too bad this thread was hijacked by trolls, it was a good op, PC, as usual.

And, as usual, went right over their heads.

It's wrong for people who are morally bankrupt to preach morals to those who actually have morals. Republicans need to look inward before they judge people from other countries, no matter how bad those people are. Look at what they did in Iraq. It was never about freedom. Never about the people. It was greed, pure and simple.

Republicans can't face their own leadership. Can't face what their party stands for. Point anything out to them and they deflect.

We supported Saddam Hussein. We set the guy up in power. When it was convenient to have Iraq back us against Iran, Saddam was our friend.

The US has a history of supporting dictators when it serves our strategic interest, or the country has some resource we'd like to exploit.

How come we don't question the morality of that?

It is a bald-faced lie to say the US set up Saddam Hussein in power.

 

[Moonglow]

anoyher polichic piece o shit posting trying to prove the right knows what it is talking about.

 

[PoliticalChic]

It's a flame thread. We get that.

Yes, you and your little buddies have turned it into that...

Like I said, over your head.

The OP title is inflammatory. That appears to be over YOUR head.

Actually, it is based on reality.

Liberalism is destructive, and a large part of it's anomalous nature is the inability to provide a consistent moral code.

Consider this aspect: Liberal elites without said moral code.

Leftism is more than well-represented in the arts; it is dominated by same.
Leonard Bernstein, foremost musician of his time, witty and charming, but an prime example of the broken moral compass of the Leftist.

On January 14, 1970, Bernstein threw a fund-raising party for the violent, racist, America-hating Black Panther Party. Here is how Panther leader, “Field Marshall” Don Cox began the evening: “We call the [police] pigs… recognize that this country is the most oppressive country in the world, maybe in the history of the world. The pigs have the weapons and are ready to use them on the people…They are ready to commit genocide against those who stand up against them…” New York Magazine, June 8, 1970



Charles Murray's "Coming Apart" focuses on Liberal upper class folks who provide poor moral examples to the lower classes. They have children without benefit of marriage...and can get away with same because they have the wealth to provide a structure that paves over some of the rough spots that this behavior creates.

Lower class folks follow the example...but suffer the poverty and crime that the behavior engenders.

 

[Sky Dancer]

Yes, you and your little buddies have turned it into that...

Like I said, over your head.

The OP title is inflammatory. That appears to be over YOUR head.

Actually, it is based on reality.

Liberalism is destructive, and a large part of it's anomalous nature is the inability to provide a consistent moral code.

Consider this aspect: Liberal elites without said moral code.

Leftism is more than well-represented in the arts; it is dominated by same.
Leonard Bernstein, foremost musician of his time, witty and charming, but an prime example of the broken moral compass of the Leftist.

On January 14, 1970, Bernstein threw a fund-raising party for the violent, racist, America-hating Black Panther Party. Here is how Panther leader, “Field Marshall” Don Cox began the evening: “We call the [police] pigs… recognize that this country is the most oppressive country in the world, maybe in the history of the world. The pigs have the weapons and are ready to use them on the people…They are ready to commit genocide against those who stand up against them…” New York Magazine, June 8, 1970



Charles Murray's "Coming Apart" focuses on Liberal upper class folks who provide poor moral examples to the lower classes. They have children without benefit of marriage...and can get away with same because they have the wealth to provide a structure that paves over some of the rough spots that this behavior creates.

Lower class folks follow the example...but suffer the poverty and crime that the behavior engenders.

You make "liberalism" into something solid, which it isn't. All it means is someone's politics lean left. It's not a religion. That's so Ann Coulter to think so.

As for a moral code. Whether your politics lean left, right or center a moral code is personal.

Your entire argument is inflammatory, divisive and flawed. You've got a couple of anecdotes and you make a broad, sweeping generalization on an entire amorphous group of people with it.

Really, PC. I've seen you do much better debate than this. The one who sounds the most confused about what makes a "moral code" is you.

 

[Buford]

It's a flame thread. We get that.

Yes, you and your little buddies have turned it into that...

Like I said, over your head.

The OP title is inflammatory. That appears to be over YOUR head.

Oh, for sure. It's also racist and hate speech, wouldn't you agree?

 

[Buford]

The OP title is inflammatory. That appears to be over YOUR head.

Actually, it is based on reality.

Liberalism is destructive, and a large part of it's anomalous nature is the inability to provide a consistent moral code.

Consider this aspect: Liberal elites without said moral code.

Leftism is more than well-represented in the arts; it is dominated by same.
Leonard Bernstein, foremost musician of his time, witty and charming, but an prime example of the broken moral compass of the Leftist.

On January 14, 1970, Bernstein threw a fund-raising party for the violent, racist, America-hating Black Panther Party. Here is how Panther leader, “Field Marshall” Don Cox began the evening: “We call the [police] pigs… recognize that this country is the most oppressive country in the world, maybe in the history of the world. The pigs have the weapons and are ready to use them on the people…They are ready to commit genocide against those who stand up against them…” New York Magazine, June 8, 1970



Charles Murray's "Coming Apart" focuses on Liberal upper class folks who provide poor moral examples to the lower classes. They have children without benefit of marriage...and can get away with same because they have the wealth to provide a structure that paves over some of the rough spots that this behavior creates.

Lower class folks follow the example...but suffer the poverty and crime that the behavior engenders.

You make "liberalism" into something solid, which it isn't. All it means is someone's politics lean left. It's not a religion. That's so Ann Coulter to think so.

As for a moral code. Whether your politics lean left, right or center a moral code is personal.

Your entire argument is inflammatory, divisive and flawed. You've got a couple of anecdotes and you make a broad, sweeping generalization on an entire amorphous group of people with it.

Really, PC. I've seen you do much better debate than this. The one who sounds the most confused about what makes a "moral code" is you.

The left is immoral because the agenda rewards bad behavior and undermines good behavior. The left has ruined our schools, our govt, and now our health care. Nice work.

 

[Sky Dancer]

It's wrong for people who are morally bankrupt to preach morals to those who actually have morals. Republicans need to look inward before they judge people from other countries, no matter how bad those people are. Look at what they did in Iraq. It was never about freedom. Never about the people. It was greed, pure and simple.

Republicans can't face their own leadership. Can't face what their party stands for. Point anything out to them and they deflect.

We supported Saddam Hussein. We set the guy up in power. When it was convenient to have Iraq back us against Iran, Saddam was our friend.

The US has a history of supporting dictators when it serves our strategic interest, or the country has some resource we'd like to exploit.

How come we don't question the morality of that?

It is a bald-faced lie to say the US set up Saddam Hussein in power.

Read this article, "Shaking Hands with Saddam" and get back to me.

According to a 1991 article in the Los Angeles Times, American-built helicopters were used by Iraq for some of its chemical weapons attacks; according to the Central Intelligence Agency,

Former Reagan administration National Security Council staff member Howard Teicher says that after Ronald Reagan signed a national security decision directive calling for the U.S. to do whatever was necessary to prevent Iraq's defeat in the Iran-Iraq war, Director of Central Intelligence William Casey personally led efforts to ensure that Iraq had sufficient weapons, including cluster bombs, and that the U.S. provided Iraq with financial credits, intelligence, and strategic military advice. The CIA also provided Iraq, through third parties that included Israel and Egypt, with military hardware compatible with its Soviet-origin weaponry.

This affidavit was submitted in the course of one of a number of prosecutions, following Iraq's invasion of Kuwait, of U.S. companies charged with illegally delivering military, dual-use, or nuclear-related items to Iraq. (In this case, a Teledyne affiliate was charged will illegally selling zirconium, used in the manufacture of explosives, to the Chilean arms manufacturer Carlos Industries, which used the material to manufacture cluster bombs sold to Iraq.) Many of these firms tried to defend themselves by establishing that providing military materiel to Iraq had been the actual, if covert, policy of the U.S. government. This was a difficult case to make, especially considering the rules of evidence governing investigations involving national security matters.



Shaking Hands with Saddam Hussein

 

[koshergrl]

Too bad this thread was hijacked by trolls, it was a good op, PC, as usual.

And, as usual, went right over their heads.

It's a flame thread. We get that.

No, it's not. It's a thoughtful piece in Religion and Ethics. The only flames were the ones immediately brought by trolls.

 

[sparky]

Yes, you and your little buddies have turned it into that...

Like I said, over your head.

The OP title is inflammatory. That appears to be over YOUR head.

Actually, it is based on reality.

Liberalism is destructive, and a large part of it's anomalous nature is the inability to provide a consistent moral code.

Consider this aspect: Liberal elites without said moral code.

.

Do you wake up every morning looking to warp history, logic and terminology to pick a fight in ascii PC?

~S~

 

[koshergrl]

The title isn't inflammatory. It's a shame trolls can't speak to the topic.

And instead illustrate the OP....

 

[PoliticalChic]

The OP title is inflammatory. That appears to be over YOUR head.

Actually, it is based on reality.

Liberalism is destructive, and a large part of it's anomalous nature is the inability to provide a consistent moral code.

Consider this aspect: Liberal elites without said moral code.

Leftism is more than well-represented in the arts; it is dominated by same.
Leonard Bernstein, foremost musician of his time, witty and charming, but an prime example of the broken moral compass of the Leftist.

On January 14, 1970, Bernstein threw a fund-raising party for the violent, racist, America-hating Black Panther Party. Here is how Panther leader, “Field Marshall” Don Cox began the evening: “We call the [police] pigs… recognize that this country is the most oppressive country in the world, maybe in the history of the world. The pigs have the weapons and are ready to use them on the people…They are ready to commit genocide against those who stand up against them…” New York Magazine, June 8, 1970



Charles Murray's "Coming Apart" focuses on Liberal upper class folks who provide poor moral examples to the lower classes. They have children without benefit of marriage...and can get away with same because they have the wealth to provide a structure that paves over some of the rough spots that this behavior creates.

Lower class folks follow the example...but suffer the poverty and crime that the behavior engenders.

You make "liberalism" into something solid, which it isn't. All it means is someone's politics lean left. It's not a religion. That's so Ann Coulter to think so.

As for a moral code. Whether your politics lean left, right or center a moral code is personal.

Your entire argument is inflammatory, divisive and flawed. You've got a couple of anecdotes and you make a broad, sweeping generalization on an entire amorphous group of people with it.

Really, PC. I've seen you do much better debate than this. The one who sounds the most confused about what makes a "moral code" is you.

""liberalism" ... It's not a religion."

Really?


"That’s certainly the case with Jill Abramson’s suggestion on Thursday that her elevation to the position of executive editor at The New York Times amounted to a transfiguration and apotheosis, as well as the sacred fulfillment of the family faith that guided her childhood.

Not only did she compare her new appointment to “ascending to Valhalla,” but in the original versions of a Times report by Jeremy W. Peters, she flatly declared: “In my house growing up, The Times substituted for religion.”
Jill Abramson

 

[Sky Dancer]

Examine what you think "liberalism" is. Liberalism isn't a religion. Stop reading Ann Coulter. Pundits split the country into us and them. It's wrong.

My religion informs my politics, not the other way around. My religion is Buddhism. Buddhism informs my political choices, not some meaningless label, "liberalism".

 

[PoliticalChic]

The OP title is inflammatory. That appears to be over YOUR head.

Actually, it is based on reality.

Liberalism is destructive, and a large part of it's anomalous nature is the inability to provide a consistent moral code.

Consider this aspect: Liberal elites without said moral code.

.

Do you wake up every morning looking to warp history, logic and terminology to pick a fight in ascii PC?

~S~

Well....not EVERY morning.....

 

[Sky Dancer]

Do you like to start fights, PC? Is that what you want to do in this thread? Fight with your enemies, "liberals"?