Modern Christianity's Moral Dilemma: "Love the sinner hate the sin"

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    I firmly believe this to be a moral problem because on issues of homosexuality the idea of love the sinner, hate the sin appears to be inherently contradictory. For instance, if one has homosexual tendencies and those tendencies actualize in concrete behavior and are unforced, then the Christian notion would imply that both the sin and sinner are actually hated. Since homosexuality is rejected in Christianity it is safe to say that many Christians who hate the lifestyle would in fact hate the person within the lifestyle. Ypu cannot separate lifestyle from the person just as you cannot separate hip-hop from one who is immersed in the culture of Hip-Hop.

    I find this piece of Christian philosophy problematic.
     
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    Christians are odd in this country, some let it happen, some get upset, most don't want to allow gay marriage. It's kind of and kind of not their choice. Yet they don't really do requirements anymore, it's like a freestyle now, do what you want, church when you want. I think Christianity as the religion it's supposed to be is dying in America. The Christians aren't though, to me it doesn't matter how big they are, they are changing many things. And I don't like hypocritical decisions. But they can't decide anymore
     
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    I see where your going and your right. You also can add the issue of therapist who try to use therapeutic techniques to try to turn you away from the gay lifestyle. In essence they say "your true self is not good enough."
     
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    Do you have any idea how stupid you are? Do parents stop loving their children because they do things wrong? Does the fat that parents still love their kids even if they lie, cheat, and steal cause a moral dilemma? Do you even know how to think?
     
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    Quantum Douchebag ....

    God is not a parent.....

    The capabilities of God and a human parent(s) is incomparable.

    Entertaining this stupid idea I ask if God truly loved "the gays" why would he consider homosexuality an abomination and destroy Sodom and Gemorrah? Why allow homosexual tendencies within species to exist? If he finds the behavior so abhorrent? Let me guess you'll say:

    Humans are of a higher moral standard than some homosexual fish. You'll probably go on to say God allows homosexuality to test us. I wonder what stupid response you'll come up with.
     
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    I'm sorry, I forgot that you are the only person in existence who is qualified to comment on what God is, and is not.

    That idiocy aside, we aren't talking about God, we are talking about the ability of people to love another person even if they sin. Since the concept of parent seems to be to hard for your feeble brain to comprehend, what about brothers and sisters? Is it possible for them to care about each other even if they do something wrong?

    How about friends? Do they stop caring about each other simply because one of them screws up?
     
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    I know of some Christians who would kick their kids out of the family home because they were homosexual. Those same 'Christians' claimed to love their children. Funny way of showing it.
     
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    Most of my fellow Christians talk a good game about forgiveness, but aren't really all that christian in their daily lives.


    Now that's not really that hard to understand is it?
     
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    Funny, I don't recall saying everyone is perfect, I am just pointing out how stupid Aristotle is.
     
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    USMB Poster "Aristotle" is just a huge failure. When he first appeared he showed great promise but blew it on the racialist threads he started.

    If I want to read race bating or religion hating threads I'll just look for rDean.
     

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