Military Recruiters, Confronted By Crowd, Leave Campus Job Fair

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No, were not against the military.....we're just against the war :bs1: ..................NOT! Regards, Eightballsidepocket
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/04/12/BAG3KI7INT1.DTL
SANTA CRUZ

Military recruiters, confronted by crowd, leave campus job fair

Anti-war protesters at university block doors to building :bs1:

Diana Walsh, Chronicle Staff Writer

Wednesday, April 12, 2006


Four military recruiters hastily fled a job fair Tuesday morning at UC Santa Cruz after a raucous crowd of student protesters blocked an entrance to the building where the Army and National Guard had set up information tables.

Members of Students Against War, who organized the counter-recruiting protest, loudly chanted "Don't come back. Don't come back" as the recruiters left the hilltop campus, escorted by several university police officers.

"The situation had degraded to the point where there was a possibility of injury to either a student or law enforcement officer. We certainly didn't want that to happen,'' said Capt. Will Griffin, one of the Army recruiters.

University officials had been aware for weeks that Students Against War planned a protest to prevent military personnel from participating in the school's biannual job fair held for students.

The student organization has become a bit of a cause celebre of the national anti-war movement ever since it was discovered that the group's protest of the same job fair last April landed it in a Pentagon surveillance file, which listed the protest as a "credible threat" to military facilities or personnel.

Universities that receive federal funds are required to allow military recruiters on campus. But campus officials had worried that Tuesday's protest would get out of hand as it had last April, when Students Against War protesters surrounded the table where military personnel sat, and hundreds of other demonstrators engaged in an angry protest outside. Some of the recruiters reported that their tires had been slashed and one employee at the career center was injured.

David Kliger, campus provost and executive vice chancellor, said the school was most concerned Tuesday about safety issues, but also wanted to preserve access to the recruiters for students who wanted to speak with them, while still allowing protesting students their right to free speech.

Kliger said officials had tried to engage the anti-war student group in discussions in the weeks leading up to the fair. But when talks broke down, officials began privately hoping for rain and brought in extra police.

The rain probably accounted for a decidedly smaller turnout -- about 100 students compared with about 300 a year earlier.

Still, the Army's Griffin said he sensed that some of the students were "looking for action" and decided to pack up their table before things got out of hand and someone got injured.

Students Against War members said they were pleased that their counter-recruiting effort forced the military personnel off campus, at least for the time being.

"We're saying it's not OK to recruit on high school campuses, it's not OK to recruit on university campuses,'' Marla Zubel, a UC Santa Cruz senior and member of Students Against War, said. "In order to stop the war, you have to make it more difficult to wage war."

But at least one student, Cody James, said he was disappointed that he couldn't get in to speak with the military personnel.

"It's frustrating,'' said James, a senior majoring in politics. "I'm not a Republican. I'm not a conservative. I don't support the war. It's about finding a career."


E-mail Diana Walsh at [email protected].
 
Well, ya know what Mr. P, CSM, Gunny, and some others here think…
Grab these protesters/kids by the short hairs and dangle em in the air for a few minutes. Then they’ll walk back to the dorm without a peep. ;)
 
dmp said:
Marla Zubel is a piece of walking shit.

Now that's not nice! ;)

Reminds me of the bumper sticker seen out here alot: "I support our troops - just not the asshole who sent them there".

:happy2:
 
"We're saying it's not OK to recruit on high school campuses, it's not OK to recruit on university campuses,'' Marla Zubel, a UC Santa Cruz senior and member of Students Against War, said. "In order to stop the war, you have to make it more difficult to wage war."

There also saying its not OK to have free speech. I mean, not allowing recruiters to even TALK to students? Maybe they feel their fellow students are so dumb and cannot determine things like whether or not joining the military might be a good thing for them, these kids have determined that for them. And isn't physically attacking members of our military and/or military property with the purpose of "making it more difficult to wage war" considered treason? It would be nice to see someone with the balls to charge them with that. And don't you love the hypocracy of these "peace activists" getting so rabid that they result to physically assaulting and destroying property? These assholes should be rounded up, tried and executed.
 
Not a problem. Just cancel the little pricks student loans...I am sure they know who the little clowns were. Better yet, revoke their Social Security cards AND their student loans as well as pull all government funding from the school.
 
with the purpose of "making it more difficult to wage war" considered treason?

Only if it’s an officially declared war. Otherwise it’s just a ‘police action’ as defined by The War Powers Act of 1973, Public Law 93-148, 93rd Congress, H. J. Res. 542, November 7, 1973: open-ended and accountable to the few - not the many. You know: Viet Nam and Korea?
 
Darwins Friend said:
Only if it’s an officially declared war. Otherwise it’s just a ‘police action’ as defined by The War Powers Act of 1973, Public Law 93-148, 93rd Congress, H. J. Res. 542, November 7, 1973: open-ended and accountable to the few - not the many. You know: Viet Nam and Korea?
Yer so damn funny!!

I love how libs change definitions selectively to meet their agenda.
Odd it's called "The War Powers Act" ain't it, DF?
And there is no mention of “Police Action” either. Bonehead.

There is this……..

(c) The constitutional powers of the President as Commander-in-Chief to introduce United States Armed Forces into hostilities, or into situations where imminent involvement in hostilities is clearly indicated by the circumstances, are exercised only pursuant to…(3) a national emergency created by attack upon the United States, its territories or possessions, or its armed forces.

Shew! Whoda thunk it?

Yer WAY over yer head on this board, Troll.

Read it…….
http://usinfo.state.gov/usa/infousa/laws/majorlaw/warpower.htm
 
Read it - but didn’t need to: Served in two previous police actions. In 1951 and again in 1965.
 
Darwins Friend said:
And when, exactly, did Saddam attack the United States?

Which time? I think firing SAAM's at our aircraft constitute an attack. ;)

Besides, such is not necessary. He invaded an ally of ours. An attack on a US ally is considered an attack on the US itself.
 
Darwins Friend said:
And when, exactly, did Saddam attack the United States?

When were you dropped on your head? Have you forgotten that according to the Clause 18 of the Constitution of the United States of America the Congress, this being the body of elected officials that makes laws, can do what is "necessary and proper" to ensure the security of the country. I'm by no means a genious, but didn't the U.S. Congress give the President the authority to invade Iraq? I believe they did, in accordance with the War Powers act. Anybody else remember that? Do I even need to post links?
 
I hope they enjoyed it. I'm sure this is the first of several:

http://www.mountainstateslegal.org/press_releases_home.cfm
RUMSFELD ASKED TO DENY FUNDS TO CALIFORNIA COLLEGE

April 12, 2006 - For Immediate Release
Contact: William Perry Pendley

DENVER, CO. Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld should withhold federal funds from a California college given the failure of the college to ensure the safe presence of military recruiters on campus, the Secretary was advised by a public interest law firm in a letter released today. According to news reports, military recruiters were forced to flee yesterday from a University of California Santa Cruz job fair because of a raucous mob. Mountain States Legal Foundation advised Rumsfeld that the college’s actions violate the Solomon Amendment, which requires that colleges permit military recruiters on campus or lose all federal funds. UC Santa Cruz received $80 million in federal funds during 2005. A unanimous Supreme Court ruled the Solomon Amendment constitutional early last month.

“It is outrageous that members of the Armed Forces, who are asked to serve in harm’s way in Afghanistan and Iraq, are driven from a campus by a mob in America,” said William Perry Pendley, president and chief legal officer of Mountain States Legal Foundation. “Unless Secretary Rumsfeld responds to this craven violation of federal law, radicals on other campuses will be emboldened, will endanger the lives of men and women in uniform, and will deny students the right to learn how they may serve their country.”

The Solomon Amendment, named after the late Congressman Jerry Solomon (R-NY), requires colleges and universities to allow military recruiters on campuses “at least equal in quality and scope to the [degree of] access to campuses and to students that is provided to any other employer.” The law was enacted in 1996 but was not enforced by the Clinton Administration.

On September 19, 2003, Forum for Academic and Institutional Rights (FAIR), a group of 24 law schools and faculties that oppose military recruiters on college campuses, and its allies filed a lawsuit against Secretary Rumsfeld and five other cabinet officers in the U.S. District Court for the District of New Jersey. On November 5, 2003, the District Court ruled against FAIR.

On November 29, 2004, the Third Circuit, by a 2-1 ruling, held the Solomon Amendment violates the freedoms of speech and association of the law schools and their professors because it suppresses their free speech and forces them to associate with a message they “abhor,” that is, the military’s policy as to homosexual activity. The dissent, noting the sophistication of law school faculties and students, wrote that they were able to disassociate themselves from the military’s “message.” The Supreme Court agreed to hear the case on May 2, 2005, after considering a brief filed by Mountain States Legal Foundation. The case was argued on December 6, 2005. On March 6, 2006, the Court upheld the law by a vote of 8-0.

Mountain States Legal Foundation is a nonprofit, public interest law firm dedicated to individual liberty, the right to own and use property, limited and ethical government, and the free enterprise system. Its offices are in the Denver, Colorado, metropolitan area.
 
onthefence said:
When were you dropped on your head? Have you forgotten that according to the Clause 18 of the Constitution of the United States of America the Congress, this being the body of elected officials that makes laws, can do what is "necessary and proper" to ensure the security of the country. I'm by no means a genious, but didn't the U.S. Congress give the President the authority to invade Iraq? I believe they did, in accordance with the War Powers act. Anybody else remember that? Do I even need to post links?

You are confusing him with facts and the truth.

Those things don't exist in Darwin's World.
 
You are confusing him with facts and the truth.

Those things don't exist in Darwin's World.

So you've served during one of these "President's Wars", have you?
 
Darwins Friend said:
So you've served during one of these "President's Wars", have you?

I served in the USAF from 1981 through 1993.

The individual list of things I was involved with is too lenghty to post.
 
Darwins Friend said:
Only if it’s an officially declared war. Otherwise it’s just a ‘police action’ as defined by The War Powers Act of 1973, Public Law 93-148, 93rd Congress, H. J. Res. 542, November 7, 1973: open-ended and accountable to the few - not the many. You know: Viet Nam and Korea?

Your lucky it's not a declared war. If it were, you and your moonbat america haters would be locked up for treason.
 

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