daveman
Diamond Member
But not a human life.Before then still a life, period."Baby" is what happens after birth.
Before then?
Tissue?
And?
Amoebas are "life" too.
A fetus is a genetically-distinct human being.
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But not a human life.Before then still a life, period."Baby" is what happens after birth.
Before then?
Tissue?
And?
Amoebas are "life" too.
But not a human life.Before then still a life, period.
And?
Amoebas are "life" too.
A fetus is a genetically-distinct human being.
But not a human life.Before then still a life, period.
And?
Amoebas are "life" too.
A fetus is a genetically-distinct human being.
No, it's not. It's representing their constituents' interests.Yeah. I can't help but notice you didn't answer my question.
Sure..
No..conservatives have a right to an opinion.
However, blocking every piece of legislation by using a drastic and dramatic congressional procedure as BAU..isn't cool. It's not terrorism..but it is "malpractice".
The GOP has no obligation to rubber-stamp the Democrat agenda.
We disagree here..but I will differ to you on something.
If a pregnancy is one that is wanted..and expected to result in a birth. And some criminal activity results in the loss of a child..there should be a penalty for that..and it should be considered murder.
I didn't see many conservatives protesting any war this country has been involved in.
Most conservatives favor the death penalty.
Most conservatives couldn't care less about pollution.
Most conservatives do not favor social programs designed to feed kids, provide health care to those who can't afford it or take care of the elderly.
So I am not seeing the big concern for human life here.
Waaah.No, it's not. It's representing their constituents' interests.Sure..
No..conservatives have a right to an opinion.
However, blocking every piece of legislation by using a drastic and dramatic congressional procedure as BAU..isn't cool. It's not terrorism..but it is "malpractice".
The GOP has no obligation to rubber-stamp the Democrat agenda.
Filibusters aren't in the constitution. They were agreed upon rules to give the minority party a chance to slow down the legislative process in order to allow them to amend or block a bill that otherwise would not get a fair vetting. It was never meant to be used all the time.
I didn't see many conservatives protesting any war this country has been involved in.
Most conservatives favor the death penalty.
Most conservatives couldn't care less about pollution.
Most consevatives favor in vitro fertilization.
Most conservatives are against OSHA.
Most conservatives do not favor social programs designed to feed kids, provide health care to those who can't afford it or take care of the elderly.
So I am not seeing the big concern for human life here.
No, it's not. It's representing their constituents' interests.Sure..
No..conservatives have a right to an opinion.
However, blocking every piece of legislation by using a drastic and dramatic congressional procedure as BAU..isn't cool. It's not terrorism..but it is "malpractice".
The GOP has no obligation to rubber-stamp the Democrat agenda.
Filibusters aren't in the constitution. They were agreed upon rules to give the minority party a chance to slow down the legislative process in order to allow them to amend or block a bill that otherwise would not get a fair vetting. It was never meant to be used all the time.
No comparison. How many people were killed in Pearl Harbor? How many people are killed every year by abortion? The numbers aren't even close.
Contraception prevents abortion.
Killing people has long been justified. Horse thieves were hanged. Adulterers were shot. Traitors were shot. Murderers were hanged. Enemy soldiers in time of war were killed by whatever means was in vogue at the time...sword, shot, grenade, bomb, gas, etc. These killings were and still are justified by written laws that vary from country to country.Wrong! The killing of people is justified in several cases: war, punishment for capital crimes, deadly force in self defense against violent crime.Ah..so you ARE against the death penalty, in vitro fertilization, war, pollution, and a myriad of other activities that result in the deaths of human beings ?
Right?
Abortion is justified when the mother would die without it and possibly a few other instances. The use of abortion for birth control after the fact is murder.
Ah..so now killing people is justified.
Gotta love it.
Though it can be stated in various but similar ways, murder is the unlawful killing of another human being without justification or excuse. (and usually with premeditation)We disagree here..but I will differ to you on something.
If a pregnancy is one that is wanted..and expected to result in a birth. And some criminal activity results in the loss of a child..there should be a penalty for that..and it should be considered murder.
Murder is defined as one human killing another human. So how can the fetus be considered a human in one context but not in another?
If you're going to argue that it's ok to abort a fetus due in large part to your assertion that it's not a "baby" or a "human" or a "person" yet then, no, someone terminating that fetus, be it the mother or a murderer, in fact is not murder because a human is not killing another human; it's a human eliminating tissue.
Criticizing President Barack Obama's health care reform law on Wednesday, Rep. Mike Kelly (R-Pa.) likened the requirement that private insurance plans provide contraception coverage to two of the most devastating attacks on American soil.
"I know in your mind, you can think of the times America was attacked," he said at a press conference on Capitol Hill. "One is Dec. 7, that's Pearl Harbor Day. The other is Sept. 11, and that's the day the terrorists attacked. I want you to remember Aug. 1, 2012, the attack on our religious freedom. That is a day that will live in infamy, along with those other dates."
Mike Kelly Compares Birth Control Mandate To Pearl Harbor, 9/11
Just when you think they couldn't get any lower..
They do.
No comparison. How many people were killed in Pearl Harbor? How many people are killed every year by abortion? The numbers aren't even close.
Criticizing President Barack Obama's health care reform law on Wednesday, Rep. Mike Kelly (R-Pa.) likened the requirement that private insurance plans provide contraception coverage to two of the most devastating attacks on American soil.
"I know in your mind, you can think of the times America was attacked," he said at a press conference on Capitol Hill. "One is Dec. 7, that's Pearl Harbor Day. The other is Sept. 11, and that's the day the terrorists attacked. I want you to remember Aug. 1, 2012, the attack on our religious freedom. That is a day that will live in infamy, along with those other dates."
Mike Kelly Compares Birth Control Mandate To Pearl Harbor, 9/11
Just when you think they couldn't get any lower..
They do.
No comparison. How many people were killed in Pearl Harbor? How many people are killed every year by abortion? The numbers aren't even close.
Pearl Harbor- 2402 Americans and 64 Japanese.
Abortion- ZERO people are killed in abortion, since neither the law, medical science or the bible recognize fetuses, embryoes or zygots as "people".
All that said, we aren't talking about "abortion" here, we are talking about birth control.
No comparison. How many people were killed in Pearl Harbor? How many people are killed every year by abortion? The numbers aren't even close.
Pearl Harbor- 2402 Americans and 64 Japanese.
Abortion- ZERO people are killed in abortion, since neither the law, medical science or the bible recognize fetuses, embryoes or zygots as "people".
All that said, we aren't talking about "abortion" here, we are talking about birth control.
Thus with this post you can see the hate and stupidity of progressives. Your war on babies is pathetic.
Only facist progressives don't see this forcing birth control for what it is. A violation of my first amendment right.
Nobody's being forced to use birth control.
People that don't should not be allowed to use abortion to correct their stupid error.
We disagree here..but I will differ to you on something.
If a pregnancy is one that is wanted..and expected to result in a birth. And some criminal activity results in the loss of a child..there should be a penalty for that..and it should be considered murder.
Murder is defined as one human killing another human. So how can the fetus be considered a human in one context but not in another?
If you're going to argue that it's ok to abort a fetus due in large part to your assertion that it's not a "baby" or a "human" or a "person" yet then, no, someone terminating that fetus, be it the mother or a murderer, in fact is not murder because a human is not killing another human; it's a human eliminating tissue.
Pearl Harbor- 2402 Americans and 64 Japanese.
Abortion- ZERO people are killed in abortion, since neither the law, medical science or the bible recognize fetuses, embryoes or zygots as "people".
All that said, we aren't talking about "abortion" here, we are talking about birth control.
Thus with this post you can see the hate and stupidity of progressives. Your war on babies is pathetic.
War on babies..