Michigan Lawmaker who opposed helmet laws dies in motorcycle crash

[Katzndogz]

Helmet laws have a direct effect on the number of organ donations. If helmets aren't required, many more organ donations....if they are, fewer.

Are you assuming the number of organ donors?

 

[Wyatt earp]

Anyone who doesn't wear a helmet when riding a motorcycle is a damn fool.

Anyone who doesn't wear a seatbelt when driving a car is a damn fool.

The time required to engage either one is minimal and they increase greatly a person's chance of surviving an accident.

That being said, as a driver of cars and a onetime motorcycle enthusiast, I do not support mandatory laws for either. Never have, never will. Think of it as a way to weed out the dummies...

BUT...

If a state has mandatory seatbelt laws (and I think most, if not all, of them do) I believe they should also have mandatory helmet laws.

If you want to prolong lives why don't you make drivers of cars wear a helmet , fire suit......



If it is good enough for F1, Nasscar, Indy car..why do we ignore the safety?

Why is it funny?

Because it is inconvenient for you?


Do liberals want to save life's or not?

It's funny because it's funny. It made me chuckle.

Nothing "inconvenient" at all.


This post is even funnier because I'm not a liberal...

Why do you always say that? You post like a flaming liberal all the Damn time.

 

[mdk]

He knew the risk for not wearing a helmet and sadly paid the price for his silliness. I still do not think it there should be a universal helmet law, though.

Did you miss the part where he was wearing a helmet and it did no good?

Indeed. Did you miss the part where I admitted my error? lol

 

[hjmick]

Anyone who doesn't wear a helmet when riding a motorcycle is a damn fool.

Anyone who doesn't wear a seatbelt when driving a car is a damn fool.

The time required to engage either one is minimal and they increase greatly a person's chance of surviving an accident.

That being said, as a driver of cars and a onetime motorcycle enthusiast, I do not support mandatory laws for either. Never have, never will. Think of it as a way to weed out the dummies...

BUT...

If a state has mandatory seatbelt laws (and I think most, if not all, of them do) I believe they should also have mandatory helmet laws.

If you want to prolong lives why don't you make drivers of cars wear a helmet , fire suit......



If it is good enough for F1, Nasscar, Indy car..why do we ignore the safety?

Why is it funny?

Because it is inconvenient for you?


Do liberals want to save life's or not?

It's funny because it's funny. It made me chuckle.

Nothing "inconvenient" at all.


This post is even funnier because I'm not a liberal...

Why do you always say that? You post like a flaming liberal all the Damn time.

No, I post like a rational, pragmatic moderate. Perhaps at times like a libertarian. I was a registered Republican for many years, but the GOP of today is nothing, nothing like the GP of my youth. The same can be said of the Democrats. Both should be ashamed of what they have become. Because I won't toe a party line means I have been called a liberal by the right, and a conservative by the left. I have called both sides on their bullshit, and I have given credit to both sides wen they deserve it. Neither Hilliary nor Dump are qualified to be President. They are both shit stains on their respective parties.

If people have a problem with that, well, that's their problem.

 

[SuperDemocrat]

Aborted baby dies because he/she hit wasn't wearing a helmet during the operation.

 

[westwall]

He knew the risk for not wearing a helmet and sadly paid the price for his silliness. I still do not think it there should be a universal helmet law, though.

He WAS wearing a helmet. Some accidents are simply not survivable.

 

[WillowTree]

He knew the risk for not wearing a helmet and sadly paid the price for his silliness. I still do not think it there should be a universal helmet law, though.

Did you miss the part where he was wearing a helmet and it did no good?

It sure increases your chances of survival though.

 

[ColonelAngus]

Liberals might have trouble understanding how you can be pro helmets, but also anti helmet laws.

Freedom of choice.

 

[Rustic]

Michigan lawmaker who opposed helmet law dies in motorcycle crash - CNN.com

CNN)A Michigan state lawmaker who voted to repeal universal helmet laws has died in a motorcycle crash, according to Michigan State Police.

Rep. Peter Pettalia was riding southbound on M-33 in northern Michigan late Monday afternoon when a pickup truck turned left into his lane. His motorcycle broadsided the pickup. Pettalia was wearing a helmet at the time of the crash, police said. The driver of the truck, a 59-year-old woman, was not injured, police said.

Here in South Dakota we don't have frivolous laws like helmet laws, it's a shit law. Just like seatbelt laws it's just another way for the federal government to control its citizens…

 

[Rustic]

To argue that helmets don't save lives because of one crash is kind of lame.


Motorcycle Safety | Motor Vehicle Safety | CDC Injury Center

Motorcycle crash deaths are costly, but preventable. The single most effective way for states to save lives and save money is a universal helmet law.

• Helmets saved an estimated 1,630 lives and $2.8 billion in economic costs in 2013.1
• The United States could have saved an additional $1.1 billion in 2013 if all motorcyclists had worn helmets.1
• Helmets reduce the risk of death by 37%.1
• Helmets reduce the risk of head injury by 69%.2,3

“Our role is to identify ways to prevent injury and death and rigorously check what works and what does not work. For motorcycle safety, the research shows that universal helmet laws are the most effective way to reduce the number of deaths and traumatic brain injuries that result from crashes.”

- Dr. Thomas Frieden, CDC Director

Then again, this is the CDC so I'm sure the more conspiracy minded probably think they have an agenda against freedom and are secretly padding helmets with fluoride tablets.

There are worse things than dying, like losing your freedom to some fucked up socialist federal government...

 

[HappyJoy]

Michigan lawmaker who opposed helmet law dies in motorcycle crash - CNN.com

CNN)A Michigan state lawmaker who voted to repeal universal helmet laws has died in a motorcycle crash, according to Michigan State Police.

Rep. Peter Pettalia was riding southbound on M-33 in northern Michigan late Monday afternoon when a pickup truck turned left into his lane. His motorcycle broadsided the pickup. Pettalia was wearing a helmet at the time of the crash, police said. The driver of the truck, a 59-year-old woman, was not injured, police said.

Here in South Dakota we don't have frivolous laws like helmet laws, it's a shit law. Just like seatbelt laws it's just another way for the federal government to control its citizens…

That's why those laws exist, just to fuck with you.

I think having a discussion about if those laws should exist but to frame in a way that government just wants control is a little out there.

 

[HappyJoy]

To argue that helmets don't save lives because of one crash is kind of lame.


Motorcycle Safety | Motor Vehicle Safety | CDC Injury Center

Motorcycle crash deaths are costly, but preventable. The single most effective way for states to save lives and save money is a universal helmet law.

• Helmets saved an estimated 1,630 lives and $2.8 billion in economic costs in 2013.1
• The United States could have saved an additional $1.1 billion in 2013 if all motorcyclists had worn helmets.1
• Helmets reduce the risk of death by 37%.1
• Helmets reduce the risk of head injury by 69%.2,3

“Our role is to identify ways to prevent injury and death and rigorously check what works and what does not work. For motorcycle safety, the research shows that universal helmet laws are the most effective way to reduce the number of deaths and traumatic brain injuries that result from crashes.”

- Dr. Thomas Frieden, CDC Director

Then again, this is the CDC so I'm sure the more conspiracy minded probably think they have an agenda against freedom and are secretly padding helmets with fluoride tablets.

There are worse things than dying, like losing your freedom to some fucked up socialist federal government...

Really? Losing your freedom to not wear a helmet is worse than death? That's you know...kind of ridiculous.

 

[Rustic]

Michigan lawmaker who opposed helmet law dies in motorcycle crash - CNN.com

CNN)A Michigan state lawmaker who voted to repeal universal helmet laws has died in a motorcycle crash, according to Michigan State Police.

Rep. Peter Pettalia was riding southbound on M-33 in northern Michigan late Monday afternoon when a pickup truck turned left into his lane. His motorcycle broadsided the pickup. Pettalia was wearing a helmet at the time of the crash, police said. The driver of the truck, a 59-year-old woman, was not injured, police said.

Here in South Dakota we don't have frivolous laws like helmet laws, it's a shit law. Just like seatbelt laws it's just another way for the federal government to control its citizens…

That's why those laws exist, just to fuck with you.

I think having a discussion about if those laws should exist but to frame in a way that government just wants control is a little out there.

Progressives talk about it all the time... pro-choice?

 

[mdk]

He knew the risk for not wearing a helmet and sadly paid the price for his silliness. I still do not think it there should be a universal helmet law, though.

He WAS wearing a helmet. Some accidents are simply not survivable.

Yes, I realize I made a mistake. Something that happens from time to time. I still strive for infallibility. lol

 

[Rustic]

To argue that helmets don't save lives because of one crash is kind of lame.


Motorcycle Safety | Motor Vehicle Safety | CDC Injury Center

Motorcycle crash deaths are costly, but preventable. The single most effective way for states to save lives and save money is a universal helmet law.

• Helmets saved an estimated 1,630 lives and $2.8 billion in economic costs in 2013.1
• The United States could have saved an additional $1.1 billion in 2013 if all motorcyclists had worn helmets.1
• Helmets reduce the risk of death by 37%.1
• Helmets reduce the risk of head injury by 69%.2,3

“Our role is to identify ways to prevent injury and death and rigorously check what works and what does not work. For motorcycle safety, the research shows that universal helmet laws are the most effective way to reduce the number of deaths and traumatic brain injuries that result from crashes.”

- Dr. Thomas Frieden, CDC Director

Then again, this is the CDC so I'm sure the more conspiracy minded probably think they have an agenda against freedom and are secretly padding helmets with fluoride tablets.

There are worse things than dying, like losing your freedom to some fucked up socialist federal government...

Really? Losing your freedom to not wear a helmet is worse than death? That's you know...kind of ridiculous.

It's a freedom thing you would not understand, if someone wants to wear helmet knock themselves out if someone does not knock themselves out. No one should give a shit if someone wears a helmet or a seatbelt or not. Fucking progressives and messing with people's personal lives

 

[HappyJoy]

Michigan lawmaker who opposed helmet law dies in motorcycle crash - CNN.com

CNN)A Michigan state lawmaker who voted to repeal universal helmet laws has died in a motorcycle crash, according to Michigan State Police.

Rep. Peter Pettalia was riding southbound on M-33 in northern Michigan late Monday afternoon when a pickup truck turned left into his lane. His motorcycle broadsided the pickup. Pettalia was wearing a helmet at the time of the crash, police said. The driver of the truck, a 59-year-old woman, was not injured, police said.

Here in South Dakota we don't have frivolous laws like helmet laws, it's a shit law. Just like seatbelt laws it's just another way for the federal government to control its citizens…

That's why those laws exist, just to fuck with you.

I think having a discussion about if those laws should exist but to frame in a way that government just wants control is a little out there.

Progressives talk about it all the time... pro-choice?

Yeah, not really the same thing. I mean, everything in life is a choice, correct? Like shooting someone, that's a choice, doesn't mean it should be legal.

So, maybe stick with the topic?

 

[HappyJoy]

To argue that helmets don't save lives because of one crash is kind of lame.


Motorcycle Safety | Motor Vehicle Safety | CDC Injury Center

Motorcycle crash deaths are costly, but preventable. The single most effective way for states to save lives and save money is a universal helmet law.

• Helmets saved an estimated 1,630 lives and $2.8 billion in economic costs in 2013.1
• The United States could have saved an additional $1.1 billion in 2013 if all motorcyclists had worn helmets.1
• Helmets reduce the risk of death by 37%.1
• Helmets reduce the risk of head injury by 69%.2,3

“Our role is to identify ways to prevent injury and death and rigorously check what works and what does not work. For motorcycle safety, the research shows that universal helmet laws are the most effective way to reduce the number of deaths and traumatic brain injuries that result from crashes.”

- Dr. Thomas Frieden, CDC Director

Then again, this is the CDC so I'm sure the more conspiracy minded probably think they have an agenda against freedom and are secretly padding helmets with fluoride tablets.

There are worse things than dying, like losing your freedom to some fucked up socialist federal government...

Really? Losing your freedom to not wear a helmet is worse than death? That's you know...kind of ridiculous.

It's a freedom thing you would not understand, if someone wants to wear helmet knock themselves out if someone does not knock themselves out. No one should give a shit if someone wears a helmet or a seatbelt or not. Fucking progressives and messing with people's personal lives

Is that it? It's a freedom thing? Not really an argument.

 

[Rustic]

Michigan lawmaker who opposed helmet law dies in motorcycle crash - CNN.com

CNN)A Michigan state lawmaker who voted to repeal universal helmet laws has died in a motorcycle crash, according to Michigan State Police.

Rep. Peter Pettalia was riding southbound on M-33 in northern Michigan late Monday afternoon when a pickup truck turned left into his lane. His motorcycle broadsided the pickup. Pettalia was wearing a helmet at the time of the crash, police said. The driver of the truck, a 59-year-old woman, was not injured, police said.

Here in South Dakota we don't have frivolous laws like helmet laws, it's a shit law. Just like seatbelt laws it's just another way for the federal government to control its citizens…

That's why those laws exist, just to fuck with you.

I think having a discussion about if those laws should exist but to frame in a way that government just wants control is a little out there.

Progressives talk about it all the time... pro-choice?

Yeah, not really the same thing. I mean, everything in life is a choice, correct? Like shooting someone, that's a choice, doesn't mean it should be legal.

So, maybe stick with the topic?

Frivolous laws like this are a waste of time and money, and it fucks with peoples personal freedoms

 

[Onyx]

I think having a discussion about if those laws should exist but to frame in a way that government just wants control is a little out there.

The state is a machine that always seeks to prevent its own power from being undermined, hence why these frivolous laws exist.

Protecting humans from themselves is a prime example of pure control.

 

[HappyJoy]

I think having a discussion about if those laws should exist but to frame in a way that government just wants control is a little out there.

The state is a machine that always seeks to prevent its own power from being undermined, hence why these frivolous laws exist.

Protecting humans from themselves is a prime example of pure control.

I think the laws exist to save lives and they do, do that. Whether it's the government's responsibility to save lives I suppose would be the argument.