Michael Steele is leading by example for the GOP!

[elvis]

No, I get it completely. Some people put winning ahead of doing what's best for this country and sticking to the ideals of their party. Then the majority of that party for whatever reason voted Dubya in instead of the more Conservative candidates.

Just like the Democrats picked Obama this time. Hillary was a much better choice, better knowledge better experience, better at , well everything. But you dumb shits elected Obama just cause he was the first black man to run successfully for President.

You ignored all the trash on him and continue to ignore it. You ignored the fact the press soft shoed around him and did no investigative reporting at all on him, his policies, his stances or his beliefs. And you continue to expect the press to give him a break.

Whatever happens, I thank GOD that hellary is not President.

"hellery" has quite a bit of power. She holds Kissinger's position. I don't think she will be a "yes person" the way Condi was.

 

[DiveCon]

I do not recall Sarah Palin having had brain surgery twice?

Just because she was not prepared to be thrown into the lion's den does not mean she can not learn a bit quicker than a brain surgery patient who has already lost and is still losing what he may have once had. I do not recall Sarah's children working as bank lobbyist either. I'd say she probably taught them better ethics than that.

If she was so intelligent, she should of known she was not ready for the role of VP, stepped down and told McCain for the good of the country that she wasn't ready. So therefore, she's either not that smart or she's selfish.

Sarah's children and ethics? Really? REALLY? You want to get into that?

To give you a preview of the kind of ground you're stepping on.

View attachment 6801

And if you had any intelligence, you would say "should have" instead of "should of".

and this is not the first time this has been explained to him

 

[Annie]

CNN Political Ticker: All politics, all the time Blog Archive - Steele questions if Democrats’ power ‘has gone to their heads’ « - Blogs from CNN.com

"This is Michael Steele, Chairman of the Republican National Committee. Democrats have controlled both branches of government for less than a month. And you have to wonder if all that power has gone to their heads.

Meanwhile in reality:

washingtonpost.com

Michael S. Steele, the newly elected chairman of the Republican National Committee, arranged for his 2006 Senate campaign to pay a defunct company run by his sister for services that were never performed, his finance chairman from that campaign has told federal prosecutors.

Federal agents in recent days contacted Steele's sister, a spokesman for Steele said yesterday.

The claim about the payment, one of several allegations by Alan B. Fabian, is outlined in a confidential court document. Fabian offered the information last March as he was seeking leniency for himself during plea negotiations on unrelated fraud charges. It is unclear how extensively his claims have been pursued. Prosecutors gave him no credit for cooperation when he was sentenced in October.

Irony.

And it even gets better as you read throughout the article.

It does get more interesting, indeed:

...The U.S. attorney's office inadvertently sent the confidential document, a defense sentencing memorandum filed under seal, to The Washington Post after the newspaper requested the prosecution's sentencing memorandum.

U.S. Attorney Rod J. Rosenstein declined to comment. Fabian could not be reached, and his attorney, James Wyda, declined to comment.

According to the filing, Wyda gave prosecutors "documents supporting [the] allegations." Wyda wrote in the memorandum that the government declined to credit Fabian for cooperating "presumably because its investigation is ongoing."

The Post corroborated some details of Fabian's claims through public records and interviews with former staff workers. Other details were disputed by people involved in the transactions....

Somehow Robert, if this had been the US Attorney's office under GW, that accidently sent sealed records of Howard Dean to the Washington Post, you'd be calling for an investigation of abuse of powers.

Not that the Post would have printed them... Of course you wouldn't have double standards.

 

[DiveCon]

CNN Political Ticker: All politics, all the time Blog Archive - Steele questions if Democrats’ power ‘has gone to their heads’ « - Blogs from CNN.com

"This is Michael Steele, Chairman of the Republican National Committee. Democrats have controlled both branches of government for less than a month. And you have to wonder if all that power has gone to their heads.

Meanwhile in reality:

washingtonpost.com



Irony.

And it even gets better as you read throughout the article.

It does get more interesting, indeed:

...The U.S. attorney's office inadvertently sent the confidential document, a defense sentencing memorandum filed under seal, to The Washington Post after the newspaper requested the prosecution's sentencing memorandum.

U.S. Attorney Rod J. Rosenstein declined to comment. Fabian could not be reached, and his attorney, James Wyda, declined to comment.

According to the filing, Wyda gave prosecutors "documents supporting [the] allegations." Wyda wrote in the memorandum that the government declined to credit Fabian for cooperating "presumably because its investigation is ongoing."

The Post corroborated some details of Fabian's claims through public records and interviews with former staff workers. Other details were disputed by people involved in the transactions....

Somehow Robert, if this had been the US Attorney's office under GW, that accidently sent sealed records of Howard Dean to the Washington Post, you'd be calling for an investigation of abuse of powers.

Not that the Post would have printed them... Of course you wouldn't have double standards.

the washington times might have

 

[Munin]

So do you have first hand knowledge of why she stood in there with Mc Cain or are you just blowing crap out there as usual. I feel confident if for any reason she personally felt she could not adapt quickly to the role she would have stepped down.

Well I have common sense knowledge of why she was picked. To pick up the angry Hillary voters and try to take enough of those voters to win the election. It failed, she drove away Moderates and Obama won.

If McCain had picked someone like Romney, he may of just won.

And well she sure didn't adapt quickly to the role if she was as unknowledgeable as she was during the campaign.

Wrong Robert. McCain drove away the conservatives with years of siding with the Dems and selling them out. They stayed home rather than vote for him. McCain nearly beat Obama because of Governor Palin being on the ticket. That is why you Libs hate her so much...she is a threat.

No I don't think she ever posed a threat (at least never on a National lvl), the voters she gained by republicans could hardly compensate the more moderate independent, democrat & republican voters she rejected. And as for republican conservatives: I don't see them voting for a pro-choice, ... candidate like Obama, but you re right that they probably would have stayed home if it wasn't for palin. As much as she is loved by conservative republicans, she still rejects the majority of US population which is still is not purely republican or independent or democrat. Moderate people just don't tend to vote for an interview fuck-up, a religious extremist like palin. If even FOX news is laughing with her, then it sure tells you something doesn't it?

 

[Xenophon]

It seems a given now, be in policts=corrupt

It has been that away for a long time Xenophon. Now deceased 21 year Dem Senator for MO and 17 years as a sheriff, "Awe honey you can't be a sheriff and not be crooked." From his mouth to my ear.

A 40 year Rep political figure also now deceased, "There just ain't no money in politics anymore. They made to many things illegal."


And truthfully I like them both. In their golden years they tried to make up for some of what they had previously done. The thing is though they used the same ole corrupt political lines to do it.

You cannot know history and not be accutely aware of that.

It seems worse then ever, but in reality it's a bi product of the information age, it's harder to keep things quiet now then it was in years past, thus more scandals are revealed far more quickly then ever before.

Of course I still hope for better, but expect worse.

 

[Lycurgus]

I think Steele will actually do a good job as chairman. As for the story, I'm not surprised.

 

[Modbert]

BULLSHIT

she was picked to get the CONSERVATIVES
there was no way in hell she would get Hillary voters
only a moron would keep believing that nonsense

No, she was chosen to get the Hillary voters. And exactly my point, the Republican party is run by a bunch of morons.

How exactly is Sarah Palin Conservative? Especially when her state is the #1 pork state in the Union.

 

[Modbert]

I doubt it even Romney could not have help McCain.

A lot of money was backing Obama. Plus the fact GLBT community figured they would have an in there with him and they went after Sarah Palin with a vengence.

I do have the personal knowledge in knowing the Republican party has been seeking out women to support for more than twenty years that were not just merely related to a husband already in politics. Sarah fit that bill. She did not ride on someone elses shirt tail to get that governor's position. The only thing she does not have down pat is speaking. Most attorneys have that because it is a major portion of what they learn in college. That does not necessarily mean that they are actually equipped to rum a country or even a state for that matter.

Romney had one thing Sarah didn't, economic experience. This election came down to who had a better idea for the economy; McCain/Palin faltered while crying that Obama is socialist while anyone with half a brain knew he wasn't.

Romney though I probably would disagree with me if he came up with tax cuts, has a better history then Palin when it came to the economy. (In fact, the town she was mayor of; massive debt when she left).

However, Romney was easily McCain's biggest rival, and picking him would of opened the floodgates to perhaps hours of videos.

(Like how the McCain campaign had that one video about Biden talking about Obama).

 

[Shadow]

BULLSHIT

she was picked to get the CONSERVATIVES
there was no way in hell she would get Hillary voters
only a moron would keep believing that nonsense

No, she was chosen to get the Hillary voters. And exactly my point, the Republican party is run by a bunch of morons.

How exactly is Sarah Palin Conservative? Especially when her state is the #1 pork state in the Union.

She was picked for the conservatives...if she attracted a few Hillary voters too (which she did) that was just extra cake. Apparently the GOP is smarter than you think...since here you libbies are still trashing Governer Palin because she is effective. Get over it already and just deal you big whiner.

 

[garyd]

How about some evvidence of wrong doing by some one not a felon attemtping to lighten the punishment due him for his own corruption. Apprently the DA in question did not think much of this dudes charges

 

[Modbert]

Wrong Robert. McCain drove away the conservatives with years of siding with the Dems and selling them out. They stayed home rather than vote for him. McCain nearly beat Obama because of Governor Palin being on the ticket. That is why you Libs hate her so much...she is a threat.

If anyone sold them out, it was Dubya with his wacky spending. The Republican Party of today is not Conservative. Not Bush, not Palin, not any of the Republican congress except for a rare few.

The Conservatives voted a good chunk for Obama, and Obama won the moderates. Why did he win the Moderates? Because if McCain was supposedly a Moderate himself then he should of won it no?

It was Palin who drove the moderates away. Yes, at first she brought a good number of people to vote for McCain; however that was before she opened her mouth.

Unless of course, you feel like ignoring all the poll numbers that showed as the campaign went on she got more unfavorable ratings.

The only thing she was a threat to was overthrowing Dan Quayle as the most foolish VP candidate in recent history.

 

[Modbert]

Just like the Democrats picked Obama this time. Hillary was a much better choice, better knowledge better experience, better at , well everything. But you dumb shits elected Obama just cause he was the first black man to run successfully for President.

You ignored all the trash on him and continue to ignore it. You ignored the fact the press soft shoed around him and did no investigative reporting at all on him, his policies, his stances or his beliefs. And you continue to expect the press to give him a break.

Hillary was certainly not the better choice. The rest of your post is BS we've been over a billion times.

 

[Modbert]

It does get more interesting, indeed:

...The U.S. attorney's office inadvertently sent the confidential document, a defense sentencing memorandum filed under seal, to The Washington Post after the newspaper requested the prosecution's sentencing memorandum.

U.S. Attorney Rod J. Rosenstein declined to comment. Fabian could not be reached, and his attorney, James Wyda, declined to comment.

According to the filing, Wyda gave prosecutors "documents supporting [the] allegations." Wyda wrote in the memorandum that the government declined to credit Fabian for cooperating "presumably because its investigation is ongoing."

The Post corroborated some details of Fabian's claims through public records and interviews with former staff workers. Other details were disputed by people involved in the transactions....

Somehow Robert, if this had been the US Attorney's office under GW, that accidently sent sealed records of Howard Dean to the Washington Post, you'd be calling for an investigation of abuse of powers.

Not that the Post would have printed them... Of course you wouldn't have double standards.

If this GWB, you'd give him the benefit of the doubt. If Obama did this purposely, then he was wrong. However, I've never seen you not ONCE call for a investigation of abuse of powers into Bush, why? You call them useless.

So if you're going to throw stones Annie, make sure you're not making hypocritical statements first. I've already stated that I'm not a democrat; I just want to see this country succeed and go back to some of the ideals that I thought America use to be when it was the greatest country in the world.

 

[Modbert]

How about some evvidence of wrong doing by some one not a felon attemtping to lighten the punishment due him for his own corruption. Apprently the DA in question did not think much of this dudes charges

So he's going to lie, get caught lying and get a worse sentence?

The guy was the finance chairman, I'm pretty sure he knows what's going on.

 

[Annie]

It does get more interesting, indeed:

...The U.S. attorney's office inadvertently sent the confidential document, a defense sentencing memorandum filed under seal, to The Washington Post after the newspaper requested the prosecution's sentencing memorandum.

U.S. Attorney Rod J. Rosenstein declined to comment. Fabian could not be reached, and his attorney, James Wyda, declined to comment.

According to the filing, Wyda gave prosecutors "documents supporting [the] allegations." Wyda wrote in the memorandum that the government declined to credit Fabian for cooperating "presumably because its investigation is ongoing."

The Post corroborated some details of Fabian's claims through public records and interviews with former staff workers. Other details were disputed by people involved in the transactions....

Somehow Robert, if this had been the US Attorney's office under GW, that accidently sent sealed records of Howard Dean to the Washington Post, you'd be calling for an investigation of abuse of powers.

Not that the Post would have printed them... Of course you wouldn't have double standards.

If this GWB, you'd give him the benefit of the doubt. If Obama did this purposely, then he was wrong. However, I've never seen you not ONCE call for a investigation of abuse of powers into Bush, why? You call them useless.

So if you're going to throw stones Annie, make sure you're not making hypocritical statements first. I've already stated that I'm not a democrat; I just want to see this country succeed and go back to some of the ideals that I thought America use to be when it was the greatest country in the world.

You weren't arguing to give the administration 'the benefit of the doubt', it was all about bashing Steel, regarding an investigation, from which someone turned sealed documents over to the Washington Post. IF it had been under Bush, against Dean, you would have been freaking. I would say, 'fine, investigate, see where it goes.' In this case, probably to the White House.

 

[Modbert]

She was picked for the conservatives...if she attracted a few Hillary voters too (which she did) that was just extra cake. Apparently the GOP is smarter than you think...since here you libbies are still trashing Governer Palin because she is effective. Get over it already and just deal you big whiner.

Again, tell me how she is "Conservative"? She was used to bait Hillary voters, like Michael Steele (someone who best success as been Lt Gov and that was iffy) as the chairman of the party because he's black. People in glass houses should not throw stones.

Mayor Sarah Palin left town of 9000 people $20 million in debt - Glenn Thrush - Politico.com - hogwash

Wonk Room » As Mayor, ‘Hard-Core Fiscal Conservative’ Sarah Palin Left Wasilla $20 Million In Debt

During her term in office, Palin cut property taxes and other small taxes on business. But as the Anchorage Daily News points out, “She wasn’t doing this by shrinking government.” During her tenure, the budget of Wasilla (population 5,469 in 2000) “apart from capital projects and debt, rose from $3.9 million in fiscal 1996 to $5.8 million.”

OMGZ! Winky is a Socialist!

Wonk Room » Sarah Palin: Earmark Queen Of The Earmark State

From 2000 to 2003, she secured over $27 million in earmarks, averaging $6.7 million in federal money every year for her town of about 6,700 people.

View attachment $Wasilla.bmp

Some of these earmarks drew the scorn of Senator John McCain. The LA Time reports that, “three times in recent years, McCain’s catalogs of ‘objectionable’ spending have included earmarks for this small Alaska town, requested by its mayor at the time — Sarah Palin.”

THIS is Conservative?

Oh my, oh my; how the mighty have fallen.

 

[Modbert]

You weren't arguing to give the administration 'the benefit of the doubt', it was all about bashing Steel, regarding an investigation, from which someone turned sealed documents over to the Washington Post. IF it had been under Bush, against Dean, you would have been freaking. I would say, 'fine, investigate, see where it goes.' In this case, probably to the White House.

Sure I was giving them the benefit of the doubt; if they have nothing to hide then they have no reason to be sneaky. But the Bush Administration was nothing but that for eight years. It's tough to give them the benefit of the doubt when they are always spinning one lie.

You don't even want to investigate Bush on any War Crimes he may or may of not had committed in office, yet you'll supposedly go after Bush and Obama for these low level things?

 

[Annie]

You weren't arguing to give the administration 'the benefit of the doubt', it was all about bashing Steel, regarding an investigation, from which someone turned sealed documents over to the Washington Post. IF it had been under Bush, against Dean, you would have been freaking. I would say, 'fine, investigate, see where it goes.' In this case, probably to the White House.

Sure I was giving them the benefit of the doubt; if they have nothing to hide then they have no reason to be sneaky. But the Bush Administration was nothing but that for eight years. It's tough to give them the benefit of the doubt when they are always spinning one lie.

You don't even want to investigate Bush on any War Crimes he may or may of not had committed in office, yet you'll supposedly go after Bush and Obama for these low level things?

I thought it would have been going after the person from AG's office that brought the file? Not Obama. This group has been in office a bit shy of three weeks, you don't see a problem? Pity. Though not surprised. Ethics doesn't seem a high priority with you.

 

[Shadow]

Wrong Robert. McCain drove away the conservatives with years of siding with the Dems and selling them out. They stayed home rather than vote for him. McCain nearly beat Obama because of Governor Palin being on the ticket. That is why you Libs hate her so much...she is a threat.

If anyone sold them out, it was Dubya with his wacky spending. The Republican Party of today is not Conservative. Not Bush, not Palin, not any of the Republican congress except for a rare few.

The Conservatives voted a good chunk for Obama, and Obama won the moderates. Why did he win the Moderates? Because if McCain was supposedly a Moderate himself then he should of won it no?

It was Palin who drove the moderates away. Yes, at first she brought a good number of people to vote for McCain; however that was before she opened her mouth.

Unless of course, you feel like ignoring all the poll numbers that showed as the campaign went on she got more unfavorable ratings.

The only thing she was a threat to was overthrowing Dan Quayle as the most foolish VP candidate in recent history.

Palin brought aprox 18% of Hillary voters to the McCain ticket and many conservatives who would not have other wise voted for McCain as well. Not sure why you think Moderates didn't vote for the very candidate they elected during the primary either. You are apparently buying into the lefties talking points again Robert.

On a side note...Biden will have no problem earning the dumbest VP award in history hands down....not to worry about that.