Meet the green who doubts ‘The Science’

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    More about "settled science".

    spiked debate: Meet the green who doubts ‘The Science’ by Peter Taylor
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    heresy!

    where's the ducking stool?
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    Hypothesis: deminimus increases in the atmospheric trace element CO2 causes instantaneous, cataclysmic and irreversible changes in Earth's atmosphere
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    |___| Fishtank #1: Earths atmosphere

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    |___| Fishtank #2: Earth's atmosphere plus 1/4 spoon of dry ice (CO2)

    Monitor results.
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    that's dunking chair... and it's underwater now thanks to a rise in the sea level. :lol: :p
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    mmmmmmm carbonated atmosphere.

    step three. add italian soda flavoring.

    step four. drink.
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    Well, we can't actually point to a place on Earth, especially one of the threatened Pacific Islands that are underwater but I can give you graphs and charts that show the sea is rising -- on average. Maybe. If you adjust the scale a tiny bit
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    oops... my bad.
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    This is hardly surprising news to anyone who has actually read about the "concensus" process overseen by the UN; but it's good to see cracks in the greenie facade.
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    How Warmers operate:

    1. Find a place where, it's "Warmer"
    2. Say, "Looky! Global Warming!"
    3. Say, the Ice is melting!
    4. The sea is rising!
    5. Show graphs and charts demonstrating 4 and 5.

    So, you see, they point to places where it's warmer, to demonstrate Global Warming but cannot point to places that are actually underwater as a result of this recent "warming", instead they give you a chart.
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    Well, Peter's career is close to it's natural end. And a good thing, too. There were a goodly number of Geologists that just could not accept the Theory of Plate Tectonics. Most were like Peter, older gents that were intellectually over the hill.

    As far as the intolerance goes, when people, scientists and policy makers alike, can plainly see a clear and present danger, but we have idiots that want the name of the engineers first grandchild, before they will accept that they are about to be hit by a train, you bet there is intollerance. Intelligent people do not suffer fools gladly.
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    blahblahblahblah....

    Way to refute his findings with something other than the usual ad homs....NOT!
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    You're going overboard on that hypothesis. That's why the deniers have any traction at all. Dumb people making dumb predictions, when the science is pretty straight forward. Are you denying that there are other factors at play?
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    How is the most simplified demonstration "going overboard"?
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    LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. I guess nutjobs will always be drawn to the deranged fantasies of other nutjobs. Birds of a feather and all that.

    Reviews of Peter Taylor’s “Shiva’s Rainbow” and “Chill”

    by Alastair McIntosh

    These 2 reviews were published to Amazon.co.uk, 30-1-10 - click on Amazon's links below where they can also be responded to using "Comment". Further to an invitation by the editor of ECOS: Journal of the British Association of Nature Conservationists, Peter Taylor and I have agreed to debate these issues once the ECOS website is upgraded - probably in April 2010. We have both published in this journal, making it a fitting place for such a debate. I have made it clear that I do not consider myself to be a "climate scientist", and will therefore be confining my remarks on the science to what is published in the mainstream scientific consensus. As such, the debate will probably focus on how non-scientists and scientists interact over issues of potentially pressing public concern.

    Shiva’s Rainbow

    Peter Taylor is the author of "Chill, A Reassessment of Global Warming Theory: Does Climate Change Mean the World is Cooling, and If So What Should We Do About It?", currently Amazon UK's no. 3 bestseller on climate change contrarianism. Much of what Taylor aspires towards for a better world in "Chill" - principles such as community and resilience - I strongly agree with, and he says it well. My problem in that book, as I have explored in my separate Amazon review of it, is with his trenchant bottom line that "Man-made global warming is exactly what it says on the label - a fabrication! It is an illusion borne of a particular way of looking at the world" (p. 360).


    Please keep 'snips' to brief excerpts from the linked article. Thanks.

    5 February 2010

    Alastair McIntosh's Home Page
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    I think I understated the hysteria from the Warmers.

    In a few short years, you claim that we're melting the polar ice caps, raising sea level and causing mass extinctions. That's YOUR hypothesis.

    It's not that: oh, in 50,000 years we might see some changes. YOU'RE saying the effects are instantaneous and cataclysmic.

    I asked you once before to state your hypotheses and you drooled on yourself, so either state it or drink a tall glass of shut the fuck up juice.
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    See :Freudian projection.

    Basic Human Psychology 1: Neurosis, Projection and Freudian Projection

    Now, edit that POS copy-n-paste post before I do.
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    So, if it's too complicated and there are too many variables how can you say AGW is for real?
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    I see you can't handle the exposure of your source as a phony and a flaming nutjob who gets his evidence from psychics, as he himself says in his books.

    Are you actually threatening to "edit" my post because you don't have any real response to the destruction of your moronic thread? LOLOLOLOLOL.
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    Actually, I'm handing the dispensation of your violation of forum copyright policy off to someone else.

    You can either abide by the rules here or go troll elsewhere.
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    From the link:

    IOW, he's going to resort to the logical fallacy of appeal to authority.
    Fallacy: Appeal to Authority

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