Medicare for all?

[Rustic]

WTF? Lol
Democrats back Medicare for all in about half of House races they're contesting

Just another forced socialist entitlement program on millions of people that would not benefit from it at all and obviously cannot afford it...

While The mandate was not forced for a very long still bankrupted millions of American conservatives… This would be every bit as bad for conservatives....

 

[Mac1958]

The Medicare / Medicare Advantage / Medicare Supplement system, with sliding prices by age and a strong preventive/diagnostic foundation, absolutely, you bet.

An already-functioning and popular private/public partnership that allows for dynamic free market competition and innovation, while taking a massive cost monkey off the backs of American employers.

If that's what they mean, I'm in. Of course, who knows that they mean, and they may have no idea, as usual.
.

 

[kyzr]

Medicare is bankrupt in 2026, so how will it pay for everyone's healthcare? (ans: no one is allowed to see doctors?)
https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/RS20946.pdf

 

[Rustic]

The Medicare / Medicare Advantage / Medicare Supplement system, with sliding prices by age and a strong preventive/diagnostic foundation, absolutely, you bet.

An already-functioning and popular private/public partnership that allows for dynamic free market competition and innovation, while taking a massive cost monkey off the backs of American employers.

If that's what they mean, I'm in. Of course, who knows that they mean, and they may have no idea, as usual.
.

Anything like Obama care/Medicare/single payer should be an opt in only… No one should be forced into that shit

 

[Harpy Eagle]

WTF? Lol
Democrats back Medicare for all in about half of House races they're contesting

Just another forced socialist entitlement program on millions of people that would not benefit from it at all and obviously cannot afford it...

While The mandate was not forced for a very long still bankrupted millions of American conservatives… This would be every bit as bad for conservatives....

There is no fucking way the mandate bankrupted anyone, it was a tiny amount


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[debbiedowner]

The Medicare / Medicare Advantage / Medicare Supplement system, with sliding prices by age and a strong preventive/diagnostic foundation, absolutely, you bet.

An already-functioning and popular private/public partnership that allows for dynamic free market competition and innovation, while taking a massive cost monkey off the backs of American employers.

If that's what they mean, I'm in. Of course, who knows that they mean, and they may have no idea, as usual.
.

I've always agreed with you on this and still do. But give a person such as rustic an opt out option and no re entry for at least 10 years just in case they get sick and want to join at their leisure. I have been in this so long I have become callous, if someone don't want and they get sick too damn bad.

 

[debbiedowner]

WTF? Lol
Democrats back Medicare for all in about half of House races they're contesting

Just another forced socialist entitlement program on millions of people that would not benefit from it at all and obviously cannot afford it...

While The mandate was not forced for a very long still bankrupted millions of American conservatives… This would be every bit as bad for conservatives....

There is no fucking way the mandate bankrupted anyone, it was a tiny amount


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Oh he's pulling this bankrupt bullshit in another thread without an ounce of proof and you're right the penalty would not have bankrupt anyone.

 

[debbiedowner]

The Medicare / Medicare Advantage / Medicare Supplement system, with sliding prices by age and a strong preventive/diagnostic foundation, absolutely, you bet.

An already-functioning and popular private/public partnership that allows for dynamic free market competition and innovation, while taking a massive cost monkey off the backs of American employers.

If that's what they mean, I'm in. Of course, who knows that they mean, and they may have no idea, as usual.
.

Anything like Obama care/Medicare/single payer should be an opt in only… No one should be forced into that shit

OMG I agree and opt out clause. But you can't join when one becomes sick.

 

[Rustic]

WTF? Lol
Democrats back Medicare for all in about half of House races they're contesting

Just another forced socialist entitlement program on millions of people that would not benefit from it at all and obviously cannot afford it...

While The mandate was not forced for a very long still bankrupted millions of American conservatives… This would be every bit as bad for conservatives....

There is no fucking way the mandate bankrupted anyone, it was a tiny amount


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Of course it bankrupted millions of people, Some areas there was only one provider available and they jacked up the prices because of that. And just the fact conservatives cannot afford to pay for Other peoples shit...

 

[Mac1958]

The Medicare / Medicare Advantage / Medicare Supplement system, with sliding prices by age and a strong preventive/diagnostic foundation, absolutely, you bet.

An already-functioning and popular private/public partnership that allows for dynamic free market competition and innovation, while taking a massive cost monkey off the backs of American employers.

If that's what they mean, I'm in. Of course, who knows that they mean, and they may have no idea, as usual.
.

I've always agreed with you on this and still do. But give a person such as rustic an opt out option and no re entry for at least 10 years just in case they get sick and want to join at their leisure. I have been in this so long I have become callous, if someone don't want and they get sick too damn bad.

I'm open to anything. The problem is that so much of the populace have absolutely no idea how that system works, and literally don't want to know.

If we ever got to a place where it was going into effect, I hope that education on it would be able to get past partisan talking points.
.

 

[Rustic]

The Medicare / Medicare Advantage / Medicare Supplement system, with sliding prices by age and a strong preventive/diagnostic foundation, absolutely, you bet.

An already-functioning and popular private/public partnership that allows for dynamic free market competition and innovation, while taking a massive cost monkey off the backs of American employers.

If that's what they mean, I'm in. Of course, who knows that they mean, and they may have no idea, as usual.
.

I've always agreed with you on this and still do. But give a person such as rustic an opt out option and no re entry for at least 10 years just in case they get sick and want to join at their leisure. I have been in this so long I have become callous, if someone don't want and they get sick too damn bad.

Lol
First of all an “opt out” is no good, It Has to be an opt in. That way the only people that want it will get it. And I have never bought insurance in my life, never will. I’ve been self employed for over 25 years, and out of debt for 20+ years. Me and my family don’t need a safety net of any sort.
It is not up to the collective to take care of me, I want no part of the fucking collective, fuck the collective...

 

[Rustic]

WTF? Lol
Democrats back Medicare for all in about half of House races they're contesting

Just another forced socialist entitlement program on millions of people that would not benefit from it at all and obviously cannot afford it...

While The mandate was not forced for a very long still bankrupted millions of American conservatives… This would be every bit as bad for conservatives....

There is no fucking way the mandate bankrupted anyone, it was a tiny amount


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Oh he's pulling this bankrupt bullshit in another thread without an ounce of proof and you're right the penalty would not have bankrupt anyone.

Lol
Actually it would if they can’t afford it dumbass
When will you get it through your thick skull... The nanny state is fucking repugnant to conservatives

 

[debbiedowner]

The Medicare / Medicare Advantage / Medicare Supplement system, with sliding prices by age and a strong preventive/diagnostic foundation, absolutely, you bet.

An already-functioning and popular private/public partnership that allows for dynamic free market competition and innovation, while taking a massive cost monkey off the backs of American employers.

If that's what they mean, I'm in. Of course, who knows that they mean, and they may have no idea, as usual.
.

I've always agreed with you on this and still do. But give a person such as rustic an opt out option and no re entry for at least 10 years just in case they get sick and want to join at their leisure. I have been in this so long I have become callous, if someone don't want and they get sick too damn bad.

I'm open to anything. The problem is that so much of the populace have absolutely no idea how that system works, and literally don't want to know.

If we ever got to a place where it was going into effect, I hope that education on it would be able to get past partisan talking points.
.

Well I have and will continue for a few weeks to do seminars and yes it is very hard to educate someone turning 65 on MAPD's but most, not all that have been on one for a few years love them and I am one of them. The most I ever paid out of pocket and that was recently is $1475.00 for a 14 day stay in the hospital. If I would have opted for a Medicare supplement and Part D over the past 5 years would have paid roughly $15000 in premium's and this is my most expensive year under the MAPD.

 

[debbiedowner]

The Medicare / Medicare Advantage / Medicare Supplement system, with sliding prices by age and a strong preventive/diagnostic foundation, absolutely, you bet.

An already-functioning and popular private/public partnership that allows for dynamic free market competition and innovation, while taking a massive cost monkey off the backs of American employers.

If that's what they mean, I'm in. Of course, who knows that they mean, and they may have no idea, as usual.
.

I've always agreed with you on this and still do. But give a person such as rustic an opt out option and no re entry for at least 10 years just in case they get sick and want to join at their leisure. I have been in this so long I have become callous, if someone don't want and they get sick too damn bad.

Lol
First of all an “opt out” is no good, It Has to be an opt in. That way the only people that want it will get it. And I have never bought insurance in my life, never will. I’ve been self employed for over 25 years, and out of debt for 20+ years. Me and my family don’t need a safety net of any sort.
It is not up to the collective to take care of me, I want no part of the fucking collective, fuck the collective...

That's because you can use the free reservation services.

 

[Rustic]

The Medicare / Medicare Advantage / Medicare Supplement system, with sliding prices by age and a strong preventive/diagnostic foundation, absolutely, you bet.

An already-functioning and popular private/public partnership that allows for dynamic free market competition and innovation, while taking a massive cost monkey off the backs of American employers.

If that's what they mean, I'm in. Of course, who knows that they mean, and they may have no idea, as usual.
.

Anything like Obama care/Medicare/single payer should be an opt in only… No one should be forced into that shit

OMG I agree and opt out clause. But you can't join when one becomes sick.

All socialist entitlements should be an “opt in”... That way the only the people that it will get it... no one is forced automatically into the fucking shit.

 

[Votto]

WTF? Lol
Democrats back Medicare for all in about half of House races they're contesting

Just another forced socialist entitlement program on millions of people that would not benefit from it at all and obviously cannot afford it...

While The mandate was not forced for a very long still bankrupted millions of American conservatives… This would be every bit as bad for conservatives....

You would think they would be touting Obamacare since they just passed it and the ink is not even dry on the Obamacare legislation.

Guess it sucks so bad they need to repeal and replace it.

Who knew?

 

[Rustic]

The Medicare / Medicare Advantage / Medicare Supplement system, with sliding prices by age and a strong preventive/diagnostic foundation, absolutely, you bet.

An already-functioning and popular private/public partnership that allows for dynamic free market competition and innovation, while taking a massive cost monkey off the backs of American employers.

If that's what they mean, I'm in. Of course, who knows that they mean, and they may have no idea, as usual.
.

I've always agreed with you on this and still do. But give a person such as rustic an opt out option and no re entry for at least 10 years just in case they get sick and want to join at their leisure. I have been in this so long I have become callous, if someone don't want and they get sick too damn bad.

I'm open to anything. The problem is that so much of the populace have absolutely no idea how that system works, and literally don't want to know.

If we ever got to a place where it was going into effect, I hope that education on it would be able to get past partisan talking points.
.

Lol
When will you realize millions of conservatives want nothing to do with a collective of any sort. The thought of a collective of any sort is absolutely repugnant To millions of conservatives.

 

[Rustic]

The Medicare / Medicare Advantage / Medicare Supplement system, with sliding prices by age and a strong preventive/diagnostic foundation, absolutely, you bet.

An already-functioning and popular private/public partnership that allows for dynamic free market competition and innovation, while taking a massive cost monkey off the backs of American employers.

If that's what they mean, I'm in. Of course, who knows that they mean, and they may have no idea, as usual.
.

I've always agreed with you on this and still do. But give a person such as rustic an opt out option and no re entry for at least 10 years just in case they get sick and want to join at their leisure. I have been in this so long I have become callous, if someone don't want and they get sick too damn bad.

I'm open to anything. The problem is that so much of the populace have absolutely no idea how that system works, and literally don't want to know.

If we ever got to a place where it was going into effect, I hope that education on it would be able to get past partisan talking points.
.

Well I have and will continue for a few weeks to do seminars and yes it is very hard to educate someone turning 65 on MAPD's but most, not all that have been on one for a few years love them and I am one of them. The most I ever paid out of pocket and that was recently is $1475.00 for a 14 day stay in the hospital. If I would have opted for a Medicare supplement and Part D over the past 5 years would have paid roughly $15000 in premium's and this is my most expensive year under the MAPD.

That’s why It should be a choice, Why force people into shit they want nothing to do with, certainly cannot afford and cannot benefit from?

 

[Rustic]

The Medicare / Medicare Advantage / Medicare Supplement system, with sliding prices by age and a strong preventive/diagnostic foundation, absolutely, you bet.

An already-functioning and popular private/public partnership that allows for dynamic free market competition and innovation, while taking a massive cost monkey off the backs of American employers.

If that's what they mean, I'm in. Of course, who knows that they mean, and they may have no idea, as usual.
.

I've always agreed with you on this and still do. But give a person such as rustic an opt out option and no re entry for at least 10 years just in case they get sick and want to join at their leisure. I have been in this so long I have become callous, if someone don't want and they get sick too damn bad.

Lol
First of all an “opt out” is no good, It Has to be an opt in. That way the only people that want it will get it. And I have never bought insurance in my life, never will. I’ve been self employed for over 25 years, and out of debt for 20+ years. Me and my family don’t need a safety net of any sort.
It is not up to the collective to take care of me, I want no part of the fucking collective, fuck the collective...

That's because you can use the free reservation services.

Now that’s fucking funny, have you seen the Pineridge Indian reservation? it’s a fucking Third World shit hole… Beyond fucked up.
That’s the last place I would go for any help for me and my family…

 

[DJT for Life]

I don't believe the average person understands how medicare
works.

People don't understand that folks on medicare, if they want
doctor coverage and then want to ass prescription coverage
have to pay for those services.

Medicare, alone is just an excellent catastrophic event plan with
some other benefits. The daily stuff and medications you have
to pay for.

Obamacare was supposed to get the poor off of using the ER for
aches and pains and then not paying the Hospital.

Nothing changed with Obamacare. Yes, some were forced into
buying it. But they didn't go to regular doctors they continued to go
to ER's and then stiff the Hospital. They couldn't afford the co-pays.
Meanwhile Obamacare drove a number of businesses away from
providing Ins for their employees and/or reducing their hours under
the 30-hour minimum per week, that was the threshold for providing
Health Insurance.

The majority of the Country enjoys company paid benefits. The companies
are footing the bill will contributions from the employees.

Everybody is fooling themselves if they believe Medicare for all is
going to be any different. The poor will still flood the ER and then stiff the
Hospital.