McCain: Opponents lying about Iraq history Maliki wanted 20,000 troops

[NYcarbineer]

I am guessing that you do not care that those posing the threat now are those that our Boi King armed a very short time ago?

What little arming was done was criticized by McCain as insufficient.

That might work for you in your bubble but not here.

The President armed those that we are about to fight.

McCain, Graham call for US to arm Syrian rebels

Read more: McCain, Graham call for US to arm Syrian rebels | TheHill

 

[blackhawk]

Just so everyone knows who we are dealing with in Iraq and Syria....

'This is our football, it's made of skin #World Cup': After posting sickening beheading video of Iraqi policeman, ISIS boast of slaughtering 1,700 soldiers

WARNING: GRAPHIC CONTENT

Image of officer's decapitated head tweeted with sickening message: 'This is our ball. It's made of skin #WorldCup'

Battle lines drawn as Iraqi forces gather at base just 20 miles outside Baghdad after militants seize two more towns

President Obama rules out sending troops back to Iraq but promises to review military options including air strikes

Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki claims security forces have now started to clear several cities of 'the terrorists'

More than 20 UK nationals thought to be trapped in territories where Islamists are carrying out summary executions

Al Qaeda-inspired militants stage jubilant parade of American Humvee patrol cars seized from collapsing Iraqi army

Masked fighters wave the black flag of the Islamic State and flash the 'V' sign while shouting 'towards Baghdad!'

Insurgents have also captured two helicopters, 15 tanks and armoured cars that used to belong to U.S. military


Iraq's refugee population has increased by almost 800,000 this year as the government struggles against rebels

President Barack Obama weighs up possible airstrikes - but rules out putting U.S. soldiers back on the ground

ISIS leader dismissed Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki as woefully incompetent, calling him 'underwear merchant'


ISIS boast of slaughtering 1,700 soldiers after posting beheading video of Iraqi policeman | Mail Online

Doesn't matter to most they have gone back to that pre 9-11 mindset that its someone else's problem and doesn't affect us here. Until it does of course and then there all dumbfounded trying to figure out what just happened and how.

 

[KissMy]

You & McCain are idiots. 20,000 Iraqi military melted away as 800 rebels approached Iraq cities. Their people & military do not support their leader. This is a political problem, not a military one.

If we only left 3,000 US troops, they would easily destroy 800 rebels. Plus we could surge forces in & out of Iraq as needed. The Iraq government did not want US there & we left. The amount of US troops had no real bearing on security. The only choice is were in or out.

Iraq's government is crap & the people & military refuse to support or defend it. So now the people are going to rid themselves of that government & form a new one.

It's a political one? Are you fucking kidding me? Check out the terrorist army ISIS beheading their way to Baghdad.

They aren't insurgents. They aren't pissed off disenfranchised Sunnis. They are an offshoot of AQ for heavens sake.

But they make AQ look like Martha Stewarts baking brownies. Hell's bells they just offed 1700 in one fell swoop in one town.

Get a freaking grip. ISIS is a terrorist ARMY.

Indeed, as IF AQ wasn't bad enough? ISIS was REJECTED by AQ for being too radical. Holy CRAP!

Iraq has weak leadership. The Iraqi army has 250,000 troops with superior military equipment; its enemies, the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIS), combined have somewhere around 7,000 & no equipment. There is no Iraqi military leadership or discipline. They refuse to fight or defend their country & run from conflict.

Bush's puppet Maliki has always been criticized for being weak soon after he became Iraq's leader. Now you low information voters are finally seeing the failure he always was.

 

[tinydancer]

Here's the key. Maliki wanted troops to remain. He wanted training to continue. There was a hiccup over immunity but they wanted to continue talks.

Bottom line Obama bailed on negotiations. And bailed on Iraq.

Iraqi leaders announced in August that they were opening talks with the US on maintaining some sort of training presence in the country past this year.

But there has been little traction since then as the US military continues to draw down its forces.

Obama set a deadline, Maliki played chicken, and got run over.

Just right. And, no, SOFA are not hiccup.

Obama set the deadline did he?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Feb. 2014

McCain Explodes at Syrian Christians Who Describe Atrocities Committed By Rebels He Wants to Arm

Hell-bent on arming opposition forces in Syria—despite strong evidence that they’re run by Islamic terrorists—John McCain displayed behavior unbecoming of a United States Senator during a recent meeting with Syrian Christian leaders touring Capitol Hill....

...But Senator McCain, an Arizona Republican, evidently doesn’t want to hear negative stories about the rebels he’s working to arm. So he stormed out of a closed-door meeting with the Syrian clergy officials last week...

...McCain marched into the committee room yelling, according to a high-level source that attended the meeting, and quickly stormed out. “He was incredibly rude,” the source told Judicial Watch “because he didn’t think the Syrian church leaders should even be allowed in the room.”...

...The outburst was so embarrassing that Senator Graham, also an advocate of U.S. military intervention in Syria, apologized for McCain’s disturbing outburst. “Graham actually apologized to the group for McCain’s behavior,” according to the source, who sat through the entire meeting. “It was truly unbelievable.”...

McCain Explodes at Syrian Christians Who Describe Atrocities Committed By Rebels He Wants to Arm | Intifada Palestine

 

[Peach]

Honesty. Thank YOU.

My father "didn't see much action" in Vietnam, compared to WWII & Korea, but he saw enough to convince him the Vietcong were blood thirsty monsters. I was a kid, it stopped my anti-war babble, and I learned enough later to know he was correct. The Killing Fields isn't a work of fiction.

But the Killing Fields wasn't the Vietcong, it was the Khmer Rouge. The Vietnamese actually ended the Killing Fields by invading Cambodia and toppling Pol Pot.

Yes, and where did the Khmer Rouge originate? Were the Vietcong 'gentle' as they removed their rival? The two were allies that split, much like al Qaeda & ISIS.

 

[tinydancer]

It's a political one? Are you fucking kidding me? Check out the terrorist army ISIS beheading their way to Baghdad.

They aren't insurgents. They aren't pissed off disenfranchised Sunnis. They are an offshoot of AQ for heavens sake.

But they make AQ look like Martha Stewarts baking brownies. Hell's bells they just offed 1700 in one fell swoop in one town.

Get a freaking grip. ISIS is a terrorist ARMY.

Indeed, as IF AQ wasn't bad enough? ISIS was REJECTED by AQ for being too radical. Holy CRAP!

Iraq has weak leadership. The Iraqi army has 250,000 troops; its enemies, the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIS), combined have somewhere around 7,000. There is no Iraqi military discipline or leadership. They refuse to fight or defend their country & run from conflict.

Bush's puppet Maliki has always been criticized for being weak soon after he became Iraq's leader. Now you low information voters are finally seeing the failure he always was.

Oh piss off about Maliki and freaking Bush. ISIS is a mega terrorist Sunni army. You know. Sunni lterrorists ike Obama loved in Egypt and Libya and Afghanistan and Syria and just as Obama wanted all those leaders deposed he wants Maliki gone.

You have the balls to talk about Maliki as a Bush puppet. Kiss my ass. Let's compare track records.

Obama gave Egypt Morsi and the Muslim Brotherhood, he's been trying to remove Assad so he let these freaking bloodthirsty throw backs to the stone age ISIS flourish and gain power in Syria, oh and he let the Sunni terrorists remove Gaddafi and now Libya is a dogs breakfast run by militias.

He's negotiating with the Taliban and has been in talks for years to try to depose Karzai. Taliban are Sunni.

Oh and just for fun outside the Muslim world, Obama backed the coup in Kiev and now has an American puppet as President.

I don't want to hear any more Bush bullshit anymore. Let's talk about the here and now.

Oh and by the way the leader of ISIS Obama let go in 2009.

 

[The T]

Indeed, as IF AQ wasn't bad enough? ISIS was REJECTED by AQ for being too radical. Holy CRAP!

Iraq has weak leadership. The Iraqi army has 250,000 troops; its enemies, the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIS), combined have somewhere around 7,000. There is no Iraqi military discipline or leadership. They refuse to fight or defend their country & run from conflict.

Bush's puppet Maliki has always been criticized for being weak soon after he became Iraq's leader. Now you low information voters are finally seeing the failure he always was.

Oh piss off about Maliki and freaking Bush. ISIS is a mega terrorist Sunni army. You know. Sunni lterrorists ike Obama loved in Egypt and Libya and Afghanistan and Syria and just as Obama wanted all those leaders deposed he wants Maliki gone.

You have the balls to talk about Maliki as a Bush puppet. Kiss my ass. Let's compare track records.

Obama gave Egypt Morsi and the Muslim Brotherhood, he's been trying to remove Assad so he let these freaking bloodthirsty throw backs to the stone age ISIS flourish and gain power in Syria, oh and he let the Sunni terrorists remove Gaddafi and now Libya is a dogs breakfast run by militias.

He's negotiating with the Taliban and has been in talks for years to try to depose Karzai. Taliban are Sunni.

Oh and just for fun outside the Muslim world, Obama backed the coup in Kiev and now has an American puppet as President.

I don't want to hear any more Bush bullshit anymore. Let's talk about the here and now.

Oh and by the way the leader of ISIS Obama let go in 2009.

^^Thank you TD...nicely put.

 

[The T]

Here's the key. Maliki wanted troops to remain. He wanted training to continue. There was a hiccup over immunity but they wanted to continue talks.

Bottom line Obama bailed on negotiations. And bailed on Iraq.

Iraqi leaders announced in August that they were opening talks with the US on maintaining some sort of training presence in the country past this year.

But there has been little traction since then as the US military continues to draw down its forces.

Obama set a deadline, Maliki played chicken, and got run over.

Just right. And, no, SOFA are not hiccup.

Obama set the deadline did he?

Much as his Red Lines that he NEVER enforces in a fit of rage and bluster to show his faithful how shallow and VAPID he is truly, only to be confronted by larger problems as his bluff is called by the margin of reality only for him to blame upon others.

Only his staunch mindless defend him and that would include the idiot you address.

 

[tinydancer]

Feb. 2014

McCain Explodes at Syrian Christians Who Describe Atrocities Committed By Rebels He Wants to Arm

Hell-bent on arming opposition forces in Syria—despite strong evidence that they’re run by Islamic terrorists—John McCain displayed behavior unbecoming of a United States Senator during a recent meeting with Syrian Christian leaders touring Capitol Hill....

...But Senator McCain, an Arizona Republican, evidently doesn’t want to hear negative stories about the rebels he’s working to arm. So he stormed out of a closed-door meeting with the Syrian clergy officials last week...

...McCain marched into the committee room yelling, according to a high-level source that attended the meeting, and quickly stormed out. “He was incredibly rude,” the source told Judicial Watch “because he didn’t think the Syrian church leaders should even be allowed in the room.”...

...The outburst was so embarrassing that Senator Graham, also an advocate of U.S. military intervention in Syria, apologized for McCain’s disturbing outburst. “Graham actually apologized to the group for McCain’s behavior,” according to the source, who sat through the entire meeting. “It was truly unbelievable.”...

McCain Explodes at Syrian Christians Who Describe Atrocities Committed By Rebels He Wants to Arm | Intifada Palestine

I detest McCain on many levels but he is up front. He backed Obama and Kerry on wanting to arm the "rebels". There are no rebels in Syria. They are paid mercenaries and terrorists.

He backed Obama on the coup in the Ukraine. I really hate him for that. But he was up front and honest and went over for Obama to help the assholes that overthrew a duly elected President.

And the idiot tried to save Morsi and the Muslim Brotherhood's ass in Egypt for Obama.

I really have no love for the man. But thru it all he is as whacked out as he is up front and wears his heart on his sleeve.

I believe him in regards to Maliki.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Obama set a deadline, Maliki played chicken, and got run over.

Just right. And, no, SOFA are not hiccup.

NO...Obama wanted inclusiveness...a LIBERAL TRAIT...like that YOU defend, or didn't Joey Biden's statement hit home for you where HE wanted to separate Iraq into three parts?

IDIOCY

Stop drinking and start listening. You, like Maliki, want American troops in Iraq to submit to Iraqi shari'a courts. Obama did not. In this case, BHO is the real American and you are the Muslim stooge.

 

[The T]

Obama set a deadline, Maliki played chicken, and got run over.

Just right. And, no, SOFA are not hiccup.

NO...Obama wanted inclusiveness...a LIBERAL TRAIT...like that YOU defend, or didn't Joey Biden's statement hit home for you where HE wanted to separate Iraq into three parts?

IDIOCY

Stop drinking and start listening. You, like Maliki, want American troops in Iraq to submit to Iraqi shari'a courts. Obama did not. In this case, BHO is the real American and you are the Muslim stooge.

Two Words you poseur...FUCK OFF. I do listen and READ, and call assholes like YOU out.

GET BENT STARKEY

 

[JakeStarkey]

NO...Obama wanted inclusiveness...a LIBERAL TRAIT...like that YOU defend, or didn't Joey Biden's statement hit home for you where HE wanted to separate Iraq into three parts?

IDIOCY

Stop drinking and start listening. You, like Maliki, want American troops in Iraq to submit to Iraqi shari'a courts. Obama did not. In this case, BHO is the real American and you are the Muslim stooge.

Two Words you poseur...FUCK OFF. I do listen and READ, and call assholes like YOU out. GET BENT STARKEY

So you do want American troops to submit to shari'a law in Iraq.

Why?

 

[KissMy]

Indeed, as IF AQ wasn't bad enough? ISIS was REJECTED by AQ for being too radical. Holy CRAP!

Iraq has weak leadership. The Iraqi army has 250,000 troops; its enemies, the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIS), combined have somewhere around 7,000. There is no Iraqi military discipline or leadership. They refuse to fight or defend their country & run from conflict.

Bush's puppet Maliki has always been criticized for being weak soon after he became Iraq's leader. Now you low information voters are finally seeing the failure he always was.

Oh piss off about Maliki and freaking Bush. ISIS is a mega terrorist Sunni army. You know. Sunni lterrorists ike Obama loved in Egypt and Libya and Afghanistan and Syria and just as Obama wanted all those leaders deposed he wants Maliki gone.

You have the balls to talk about Maliki as a Bush puppet. Kiss my ass. Let's compare track records.

Obama gave Egypt Morsi and the Muslim Brotherhood, he's been trying to remove Assad so he let these freaking bloodthirsty throw backs to the stone age ISIS flourish and gain power in Syria, oh and he let the Sunni terrorists remove Gaddafi and now Libya is a dogs breakfast run by militias.

He's negotiating with the Taliban and has been in talks for years to try to depose Karzai. Taliban are Sunni.

Oh and just for fun outside the Muslim world, Obama backed the coup in Kiev and now has an American puppet as President.

I don't want to hear any more Bush bullshit anymore. Let's talk about the here and now.

Oh and by the way the leader of ISIS Obama let go in 2009.

You people are low information political pawns who have no clue. Piss off about Obama being a terrorist lover!

Egypt was planned down to the month it happened & who would be the new leader by Republicans back in 2005. It just happened to be soon after Obama was elected instead of their chosen McCain.

The "Secret Document" mentioned this "Revolutionary Activist" speaking at a late January Congressional hearing on House Resolution 1303 regarding religious and political freedom in Egypt.

This Resolution H. Res. 1303: Calling on the Egyptian Government to respect human rights and freedoms of religion was introduced Jun 24, 2008 by Rep. Frank Wolf [R-VA10].

It was also introduced in several previous secessions of congress. On Jul 28, 2005 it was introduced as H. Res. 413: Expressing the concern of House of Representatives regarding the amount of United States foreign assistance provided to Egypt over the past 25 years without meaningful political reforms by the Government of Egypt, by Rep. Ted Poe [R-TX2].

Our government relied heavily on our relationship with Egypt's military. We counted on our influence of democratic civilian control of our military to influence their military officials over our 30 year joint military cooperation. It paid off, Egypt's military has played ball with the plan.

Pentagon Faces Test of Influence With Ally - The officer corps of Egypt’s powerful military has been educated at defense colleges in the United States for 30 years. The Egyptian armed forces have about 1,000 American M1A1 Abrams tanks, which the United States allows to be built on Egyptian soil. Egypt permits the American military to stage major operations from its bases, and has always guaranteed the Americans passage through the Suez Canal.

The relationship between the Egyptian and American militaries is, in fact, so close that it was no surprise on Friday to find two dozen senior Egyptian military officials at the Pentagon, halfway through an annual week of meetings, lunches and dinners with their American counterparts.

By the afternoon, the Egyptians had cut short the talks to return to Cairo, but not before a top Defense Department official, Alexander Vershbow, had urged them to exercise “restraint,” the Pentagon said.

Saddam = Gone
Bin Ladin = Gone
Ben Ali = Gone
Mubarak = Gone
Gaddafi = Gone

It's all one big plan coming together.

Oh and by the way Baghdadi, the leader of ISIS was let go by Bush in 2004. It's no surprise Bush let terrorist go. Bush's high school friend General Tommy Franks ordered US forces to stand down in Tora Bora, Afghanistan so Osama Bin Laden could negotiate a ceasefire with Afghans so he could escape.

We don't want to hear your bullshit lies about Obama anymore! Got it! Stop being a subversive traitor to our country.

 

[Yurt]

Obama set a deadline, Maliki played chicken, and got run over.

Just right. And, no, SOFA are not hiccup.

NO...Obama wanted inclusiveness...a LIBERAL TRAIT...like that YOU defend, or didn't Joey Biden's statement hit home for you where HE wanted to separate Iraq into three parts?

IDIOCY

Stop drinking and start listening. You, like Maliki, want American troops in Iraq to submit to Iraqi shari'a courts. Obama did not. In this case, BHO is the real American and you are the Muslim stooge.

and maliki wouldn't budge....surely you have a link for prove your assertions....oh wait, i forgot who i was talking to

 

[Yurt]

Stop drinking and start listening. You, like Maliki, want American troops in Iraq to submit to Iraqi shari'a courts. Obama did not. In this case, BHO is the real American and you are the Muslim stooge.

Two Words you poseur...FUCK OFF. I do listen and READ, and call assholes like YOU out. GET BENT STARKEY

So you do want American troops to submit to shari'a law in Iraq.

Why?

so you do want iraq to fall to isis?

why?

 

[The T]

Stop drinking and start listening. You, like Maliki, want American troops in Iraq to submit to Iraqi shari'a courts. Obama did not. In this case, BHO is the real American and you are the Muslim stooge.

Two Words you poseur...FUCK OFF. I do listen and READ, and call assholes like YOU out. GET BENT STARKEY

So you do want American troops to submit to shari'a law in Iraq.

Why?

FIRE for the fucking STRAW MAN...Don't try that shit with ME starkey.