McCabe: You can not stop the FBI from doing the right thing

after Comey threw Clinton under the bus a week before the election I thought he would vanish into the woodwork ( retire) in a month or less, when he didnt I pegged him as a Trump partisan .. if you believe in karma you can believe it bit Comey in the ass ... BIGLY !
 
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The director of the FBI is first and formost supposed to be independent from partisan politics - he must be in order to function in his role. One of the reasons for making it a ten year term is do enforce that becuase his term crosses administrations.

The President has the right to hire and fire his Director. No argument there, but a caution. It is extremely rare for this to occur, precisely because it can be seen as politically motivated. The last time was 24 years ago when Clinton fired William Sessions. in fact - the ONLY other time. The reasons for this were criminal:

"The Justice Department report found, among other things, that Sessions had engaged in a sham transaction to avoid paying taxes on his use of an FBI limousine to take him to and from work, that he had billed the government for a security fence around his home that provided no security and that he had arranged business trips to places where he could meet with relatives."

Sessions dismissed the findings and refused to resign.

Clinton, at the recommendation of his attorney general, Janet Reno, dismissed Sessions.

There is nothing comparable with Comey. The fact that he managed to piss off both sides of the partisan divide in different investigations speaks to his independence from partisan politics.

What's dangerous, really dangerous is firing him in the middle of a high profile active investigation into his boss - President Trump's campaign. You can see how that looks - really bad timing. Made worse by the multitude of lies used to support it. For example...

FICTION - Clapper said there was no evidence of collusion.
Sanders wrongly claimed that former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper said there was “no evidence of collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russians.” Clapper said he was not aware of any evidence, but added that he was not privy to the FBI’s ongoing investigation.

FICTION - claims that Comey had lost the support of the rank and file in the FBI and that the probe into Russian involvement in the 2016 elections was insignificant

The absence of former FBI Director James Comey loomed large over the Senate Intelligence Committee's hearing with top U.S. intelligence leaders, but his temporary replacement, acting FBI Director Andrew McCabe, assured lawmakers he would not bend to pressure from the White House.

"You cannot stop the men and women of the FBI from doing the right thing, protecting the American people and upholding the Constitution," McCabe said.

McCabe directly contradicted White House assertions that one of the reasons Comey was fired by President Trump on Tuesday was because he had lost respect and support of the FBI rank-and-file.

"Director Comey enjoyed broad support within the FBI and still does to this day," McCabe said, saying he holds Comey in the "absolute highest regard."


McCabe also said that the FBI's ongoing probe into Russian involvement in the 2016 elections and possible collusion with the Trump campaign was "highly significant," disputing a White House characterization that the investigation "was one of the smallest things that they've got going on their plate."

"It is my opinion and belief that the FBI will continue to pursue this investigation vigorously and completely," McCabe also said.

In fact, his agents were stunned to hear of Comey's firing.

They privately described a day afterward spent processing the news, swapping praise about their former boss, and grappling with angst that Comey wasn't given a chance to notify employees. Many saw him as a strong and supportive leader even if some believed he at times set the bureau on the wrong path. And many did not want to see him go, especially in the midst of the bureau's investigation into whether President Donald Trump's campaign had ties to Russia's meddling in the election.

White House spokeswoman Sarah Huckabee Sanders said Wednesday that "countless" FBI employees had lost faith in Comey's leadership. But the president of the FBI Agents Association, Thomas O'Connor, said he was known to be responsive to their concerns, and he called the firing a "gut punch."

I certainly disagreed with Comey's actions on the eve of the election - but Trump and team commended it. Either way - it is not a reason to fire him. Nor is his focus on the Russian tampering.

Trump's real reason's for abruptly firing Comey now, of all times? Maybe this article has the man's measure.

After President Trump accused his predecessor in March of wiretapping him, James B. Comey, the F.B.I. director, was flabbergasted. The president, Mr. Comey told associates, was “outside the realm of normal,” even “crazy.”

For his part, Mr. Trump fumed when Mr. Comey publicly dismissed the sensational wiretapping claim. In the weeks that followed, he grew angrier and began talking about firing Mr. Comey. After stewing last weekend while watching Sunday talk shows at his New Jersey golf resort, Mr. Trump decided it was time. There was “something wrong with” Mr. Comey, he told aides.

The collision between president and F.B.I. director that culminated with Mr. Comey’s stunning dismissal on Tuesday had been a long time coming. To a president obsessed with loyalty, Mr. Comey was a rogue operator who could not be trusted as the F.B.I. investigated Russian ties to Mr. Trump’s campaign. To a lawman obsessed with independence, Mr. Trump was the ultimate loose cannon, making irresponsible claims on Twitter and jeopardizing the bureau’s credibility.

What is disturbing is that Trump is a weak, vindictive and petty man in charge of a dangerous assortment of tools upon which our country depends upon for information, for advice and for security and one of those tools is the FBI and it's director.

And now, despite widespread concern and evidence of Russian interference - Trump supporters want the investigation ended. Trump wants his claims of being "wire tapped" to be taken seriously, despite lack of any evidence. And to further muddy the waters - squirrel! Reopen Hillary's email investigation! Forget Russia!

I can't decide if we have a clown in the White House or a toddler. But it doesn't bode well for us as a nation.

Palease... Comey was a bumbling fool. McCabe has to go next. The investigations will continue.
Oh, this would be choice.....keep firing those in charge.

When they are incompetent, yes. McCabe has strong ties to the Clintons. Hey, looka, I have no problem with the investigations.. but please, let's get the politics out of things. McCabe's wife received funds from the DNC in 2015 for her Virginia Senate bid for God's sake!


Is there ANY actual evidence that McCabe can not operate independently? Or Comey? No. Pretty much anyone you name to the post is going to have strong political ties somewhere that doesn't mean they can't do their job and stay above politics.
 
The director of the FBI is first and formost supposed to be independent from partisan politics - he must be in order to function in his role. One of the reasons for making it a ten year term is do enforce that becuase his term crosses administrations.

The President has the right to hire and fire his Director. No argument there, but a caution. It is extremely rare for this to occur, precisely because it can be seen as politically motivated. The last time was 24 years ago when Clinton fired William Sessions. in fact - the ONLY other time. The reasons for this were criminal:

"The Justice Department report found, among other things, that Sessions had engaged in a sham transaction to avoid paying taxes on his use of an FBI limousine to take him to and from work, that he had billed the government for a security fence around his home that provided no security and that he had arranged business trips to places where he could meet with relatives."

Sessions dismissed the findings and refused to resign.

Clinton, at the recommendation of his attorney general, Janet Reno, dismissed Sessions.

There is nothing comparable with Comey. The fact that he managed to piss off both sides of the partisan divide in different investigations speaks to his independence from partisan politics.

What's dangerous, really dangerous is firing him in the middle of a high profile active investigation into his boss - President Trump's campaign. You can see how that looks - really bad timing. Made worse by the multitude of lies used to support it. For example...

FICTION - Clapper said there was no evidence of collusion.
Sanders wrongly claimed that former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper said there was “no evidence of collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russians.” Clapper said he was not aware of any evidence, but added that he was not privy to the FBI’s ongoing investigation.

FICTION - claims that Comey had lost the support of the rank and file in the FBI and that the probe into Russian involvement in the 2016 elections was insignificant

The absence of former FBI Director James Comey loomed large over the Senate Intelligence Committee's hearing with top U.S. intelligence leaders, but his temporary replacement, acting FBI Director Andrew McCabe, assured lawmakers he would not bend to pressure from the White House.

"You cannot stop the men and women of the FBI from doing the right thing, protecting the American people and upholding the Constitution," McCabe said.

McCabe directly contradicted White House assertions that one of the reasons Comey was fired by President Trump on Tuesday was because he had lost respect and support of the FBI rank-and-file.

"Director Comey enjoyed broad support within the FBI and still does to this day," McCabe said, saying he holds Comey in the "absolute highest regard."


McCabe also said that the FBI's ongoing probe into Russian involvement in the 2016 elections and possible collusion with the Trump campaign was "highly significant," disputing a White House characterization that the investigation "was one of the smallest things that they've got going on their plate."

"It is my opinion and belief that the FBI will continue to pursue this investigation vigorously and completely," McCabe also said.

In fact, his agents were stunned to hear of Comey's firing.

They privately described a day afterward spent processing the news, swapping praise about their former boss, and grappling with angst that Comey wasn't given a chance to notify employees. Many saw him as a strong and supportive leader even if some believed he at times set the bureau on the wrong path. And many did not want to see him go, especially in the midst of the bureau's investigation into whether President Donald Trump's campaign had ties to Russia's meddling in the election.

White House spokeswoman Sarah Huckabee Sanders said Wednesday that "countless" FBI employees had lost faith in Comey's leadership. But the president of the FBI Agents Association, Thomas O'Connor, said he was known to be responsive to their concerns, and he called the firing a "gut punch."

I certainly disagreed with Comey's actions on the eve of the election - but Trump and team commended it. Either way - it is not a reason to fire him. Nor is his focus on the Russian tampering.

Trump's real reason's for abruptly firing Comey now, of all times? Maybe this article has the man's measure.

After President Trump accused his predecessor in March of wiretapping him, James B. Comey, the F.B.I. director, was flabbergasted. The president, Mr. Comey told associates, was “outside the realm of normal,” even “crazy.”

For his part, Mr. Trump fumed when Mr. Comey publicly dismissed the sensational wiretapping claim. In the weeks that followed, he grew angrier and began talking about firing Mr. Comey. After stewing last weekend while watching Sunday talk shows at his New Jersey golf resort, Mr. Trump decided it was time. There was “something wrong with” Mr. Comey, he told aides.

The collision between president and F.B.I. director that culminated with Mr. Comey’s stunning dismissal on Tuesday had been a long time coming. To a president obsessed with loyalty, Mr. Comey was a rogue operator who could not be trusted as the F.B.I. investigated Russian ties to Mr. Trump’s campaign. To a lawman obsessed with independence, Mr. Trump was the ultimate loose cannon, making irresponsible claims on Twitter and jeopardizing the bureau’s credibility.

What is disturbing is that Trump is a weak, vindictive and petty man in charge of a dangerous assortment of tools upon which our country depends upon for information, for advice and for security and one of those tools is the FBI and it's director.

And now, despite widespread concern and evidence of Russian interference - Trump supporters want the investigation ended. Trump wants his claims of being "wire tapped" to be taken seriously, despite lack of any evidence. And to further muddy the waters - squirrel! Reopen Hillary's email investigation! Forget Russia!

I can't decide if we have a clown in the White House or a toddler. But it doesn't bode well for us as a nation.

Palease... Comey was a bumbling fool. McCabe has to go next. The investigations will continue.
Oh, this would be choice.....keep firing those in charge.

When they are incompetent, yes. McCabe has strong ties to the Clintons. Hey, looka, I have no problem with the investigations.. but please, let's get the politics out of things. McCabe's wife received funds from the DNC in 2015 for her Virginia Senate bid for God's sake!


Is there ANY actual evidence that McCabe can not operate independently? Or Comey? No. Pretty much anyone you name to the post is going to have strong political ties somewhere that doesn't mean they can't do their job and stay above politics.

Regarding McCabe? I dunno. Comey? He demonstrated that he was rather incompetent. Look, the investigations are still ongoing, nothing has changed. It isn't like Comey & McCabe are doing anything.
 
The director of the FBI is first and formost supposed to be independent from partisan politics - he must be in order to function in his role. One of the reasons for making it a ten year term is do enforce that becuase his term crosses administrations.

The President has the right to hire and fire his Director. No argument there, but a caution. It is extremely rare for this to occur, precisely because it can be seen as politically motivated. The last time was 24 years ago when Clinton fired William Sessions. in fact - the ONLY other time. The reasons for this were criminal:

"The Justice Department report found, among other things, that Sessions had engaged in a sham transaction to avoid paying taxes on his use of an FBI limousine to take him to and from work, that he had billed the government for a security fence around his home that provided no security and that he had arranged business trips to places where he could meet with relatives."

Sessions dismissed the findings and refused to resign.

Clinton, at the recommendation of his attorney general, Janet Reno, dismissed Sessions.

There is nothing comparable with Comey. The fact that he managed to piss off both sides of the partisan divide in different investigations speaks to his independence from partisan politics.

What's dangerous, really dangerous is firing him in the middle of a high profile active investigation into his boss - President Trump's campaign. You can see how that looks - really bad timing. Made worse by the multitude of lies used to support it. For example...

FICTION - Clapper said there was no evidence of collusion.
Sanders wrongly claimed that former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper said there was “no evidence of collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russians.” Clapper said he was not aware of any evidence, but added that he was not privy to the FBI’s ongoing investigation.

FICTION - claims that Comey had lost the support of the rank and file in the FBI and that the probe into Russian involvement in the 2016 elections was insignificant

The absence of former FBI Director James Comey loomed large over the Senate Intelligence Committee's hearing with top U.S. intelligence leaders, but his temporary replacement, acting FBI Director Andrew McCabe, assured lawmakers he would not bend to pressure from the White House.

"You cannot stop the men and women of the FBI from doing the right thing, protecting the American people and upholding the Constitution," McCabe said.

McCabe directly contradicted White House assertions that one of the reasons Comey was fired by President Trump on Tuesday was because he had lost respect and support of the FBI rank-and-file.

"Director Comey enjoyed broad support within the FBI and still does to this day," McCabe said, saying he holds Comey in the "absolute highest regard."


McCabe also said that the FBI's ongoing probe into Russian involvement in the 2016 elections and possible collusion with the Trump campaign was "highly significant," disputing a White House characterization that the investigation "was one of the smallest things that they've got going on their plate."

"It is my opinion and belief that the FBI will continue to pursue this investigation vigorously and completely," McCabe also said.

In fact, his agents were stunned to hear of Comey's firing.

They privately described a day afterward spent processing the news, swapping praise about their former boss, and grappling with angst that Comey wasn't given a chance to notify employees. Many saw him as a strong and supportive leader even if some believed he at times set the bureau on the wrong path. And many did not want to see him go, especially in the midst of the bureau's investigation into whether President Donald Trump's campaign had ties to Russia's meddling in the election.

White House spokeswoman Sarah Huckabee Sanders said Wednesday that "countless" FBI employees had lost faith in Comey's leadership. But the president of the FBI Agents Association, Thomas O'Connor, said he was known to be responsive to their concerns, and he called the firing a "gut punch."

I certainly disagreed with Comey's actions on the eve of the election - but Trump and team commended it. Either way - it is not a reason to fire him. Nor is his focus on the Russian tampering.

Trump's real reason's for abruptly firing Comey now, of all times? Maybe this article has the man's measure.

After President Trump accused his predecessor in March of wiretapping him, James B. Comey, the F.B.I. director, was flabbergasted. The president, Mr. Comey told associates, was “outside the realm of normal,” even “crazy.”

For his part, Mr. Trump fumed when Mr. Comey publicly dismissed the sensational wiretapping claim. In the weeks that followed, he grew angrier and began talking about firing Mr. Comey. After stewing last weekend while watching Sunday talk shows at his New Jersey golf resort, Mr. Trump decided it was time. There was “something wrong with” Mr. Comey, he told aides.

The collision between president and F.B.I. director that culminated with Mr. Comey’s stunning dismissal on Tuesday had been a long time coming. To a president obsessed with loyalty, Mr. Comey was a rogue operator who could not be trusted as the F.B.I. investigated Russian ties to Mr. Trump’s campaign. To a lawman obsessed with independence, Mr. Trump was the ultimate loose cannon, making irresponsible claims on Twitter and jeopardizing the bureau’s credibility.

What is disturbing is that Trump is a weak, vindictive and petty man in charge of a dangerous assortment of tools upon which our country depends upon for information, for advice and for security and one of those tools is the FBI and it's director.

And now, despite widespread concern and evidence of Russian interference - Trump supporters want the investigation ended. Trump wants his claims of being "wire tapped" to be taken seriously, despite lack of any evidence. And to further muddy the waters - squirrel! Reopen Hillary's email investigation! Forget Russia!

I can't decide if we have a clown in the White House or a toddler. But it doesn't bode well for us as a nation.
Since we know that you didn't compose that tripe, shouldn't you have linked it so we know who did? It's certainly not that you aren't a total hack, but the composition and format are obviously beyond your very modest abilities.
 
I really think it's important to note that in all of our history - only ONCE before was an FBI director fired. ONCE. And it was for criminal acts on his part, and he had refused an offer to resign.

Firing Comey - for no good reason (because it's been shown the reasons were fabricated) - is really not good at this time.

https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/3711116/White-House-Fires-James-Comey.pdf

The reasons Trump saw were page 2 here.

Yup. THAT is why he is gone... it was either ignorance or arrogance.... I think the latter.
 
The director of the FBI is first and formost supposed to be independent from partisan politics - he must be in order to function in his role. One of the reasons for making it a ten year term is do enforce that becuase his term crosses administrations.

The President has the right to hire and fire his Director. No argument there, but a caution. It is extremely rare for this to occur, precisely because it can be seen as politically motivated. The last time was 24 years ago when Clinton fired William Sessions. in fact - the ONLY other time. The reasons for this were criminal:

"The Justice Department report found, among other things, that Sessions had engaged in a sham transaction to avoid paying taxes on his use of an FBI limousine to take him to and from work, that he had billed the government for a security fence around his home that provided no security and that he had arranged business trips to places where he could meet with relatives."

Sessions dismissed the findings and refused to resign.

Clinton, at the recommendation of his attorney general, Janet Reno, dismissed Sessions.

There is nothing comparable with Comey. The fact that he managed to piss off both sides of the partisan divide in different investigations speaks to his independence from partisan politics.

What's dangerous, really dangerous is firing him in the middle of a high profile active investigation into his boss - President Trump's campaign. You can see how that looks - really bad timing. Made worse by the multitude of lies used to support it. For example...

FICTION - Clapper said there was no evidence of collusion.
Sanders wrongly claimed that former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper said there was “no evidence of collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russians.” Clapper said he was not aware of any evidence, but added that he was not privy to the FBI’s ongoing investigation.

FICTION - claims that Comey had lost the support of the rank and file in the FBI and that the probe into Russian involvement in the 2016 elections was insignificant

The absence of former FBI Director James Comey loomed large over the Senate Intelligence Committee's hearing with top U.S. intelligence leaders, but his temporary replacement, acting FBI Director Andrew McCabe, assured lawmakers he would not bend to pressure from the White House.

"You cannot stop the men and women of the FBI from doing the right thing, protecting the American people and upholding the Constitution," McCabe said.

McCabe directly contradicted White House assertions that one of the reasons Comey was fired by President Trump on Tuesday was because he had lost respect and support of the FBI rank-and-file.

"Director Comey enjoyed broad support within the FBI and still does to this day," McCabe said, saying he holds Comey in the "absolute highest regard."


McCabe also said that the FBI's ongoing probe into Russian involvement in the 2016 elections and possible collusion with the Trump campaign was "highly significant," disputing a White House characterization that the investigation "was one of the smallest things that they've got going on their plate."

"It is my opinion and belief that the FBI will continue to pursue this investigation vigorously and completely," McCabe also said.

In fact, his agents were stunned to hear of Comey's firing.

They privately described a day afterward spent processing the news, swapping praise about their former boss, and grappling with angst that Comey wasn't given a chance to notify employees. Many saw him as a strong and supportive leader even if some believed he at times set the bureau on the wrong path. And many did not want to see him go, especially in the midst of the bureau's investigation into whether President Donald Trump's campaign had ties to Russia's meddling in the election.

White House spokeswoman Sarah Huckabee Sanders said Wednesday that "countless" FBI employees had lost faith in Comey's leadership. But the president of the FBI Agents Association, Thomas O'Connor, said he was known to be responsive to their concerns, and he called the firing a "gut punch."

I certainly disagreed with Comey's actions on the eve of the election - but Trump and team commended it. Either way - it is not a reason to fire him. Nor is his focus on the Russian tampering.

Trump's real reason's for abruptly firing Comey now, of all times? Maybe this article has the man's measure.

After President Trump accused his predecessor in March of wiretapping him, James B. Comey, the F.B.I. director, was flabbergasted. The president, Mr. Comey told associates, was “outside the realm of normal,” even “crazy.”

For his part, Mr. Trump fumed when Mr. Comey publicly dismissed the sensational wiretapping claim. In the weeks that followed, he grew angrier and began talking about firing Mr. Comey. After stewing last weekend while watching Sunday talk shows at his New Jersey golf resort, Mr. Trump decided it was time. There was “something wrong with” Mr. Comey, he told aides.

The collision between president and F.B.I. director that culminated with Mr. Comey’s stunning dismissal on Tuesday had been a long time coming. To a president obsessed with loyalty, Mr. Comey was a rogue operator who could not be trusted as the F.B.I. investigated Russian ties to Mr. Trump’s campaign. To a lawman obsessed with independence, Mr. Trump was the ultimate loose cannon, making irresponsible claims on Twitter and jeopardizing the bureau’s credibility.

What is disturbing is that Trump is a weak, vindictive and petty man in charge of a dangerous assortment of tools upon which our country depends upon for information, for advice and for security and one of those tools is the FBI and it's director.

And now, despite widespread concern and evidence of Russian interference - Trump supporters want the investigation ended. Trump wants his claims of being "wire tapped" to be taken seriously, despite lack of any evidence. And to further muddy the waters - squirrel! Reopen Hillary's email investigation! Forget Russia!

I can't decide if we have a clown in the White House or a toddler. But it doesn't bode well for us as a nation.
rare, share, hare, bare... but it is within the constitutional rights of the president. So?
 
I really think it's important to note that in all of our history - only ONCE before was an FBI director fired. ONCE. And it was for criminal acts on his part, and he had refused an offer to resign.

Firing Comey - for no good reason (because it's been shown the reasons were fabricated) - is really not good at this time.
fk coyote, Harry Reid wanted his job. why the fk do you do stupid shit like this?

Harry Reid calls on FBI Director Comey to resign over CIA Russian hacking report

"Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) on Saturday called on FBI Director James Comey to resign, further referring to the embattled FBI leader as “J. Edgar Hoover.”

Hoover served as FBI director from 1924 until his death in 1972. According to Biography.com, Hoover “ordered illegal surveillance against suspected enemies of the state and political opponents” during his tenure at the bureau."
 
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I really think it's important to note that in all of our history - only ONCE before was an FBI director fired. ONCE. And it was for criminal acts on his part, and he had refused an offer to resign.

Firing Comey - for no good reason (because it's been shown the reasons were fabricated) - is really not good at this time.
fk coyote, Harry Reid wanted his job. why the fk do you do stupid shit like this?

Harry Reid calls on FBI Director Comey to resign over CIA Russian hacking report

"Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) on Saturday called on FBI Director James Comey to resign, further referring to the embattled FBI leader as “J. Edgar Hoover.”

Hoover served as FBI director from 1924 until his death in 1972. According to Biography.com, Hoover “ordered illegal surveillance against suspected enemies of the state and political opponents” during his tenure at the bureau."

Harry Reid doesn't have the power to fire him nor is he relevent in any way to this :lol:
 
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The director of the FBI is first and formost supposed to be independent from partisan politics - he must be in order to function in his role. One of the reasons for making it a ten year term is do enforce that becuase his term crosses administrations.

The President has the right to hire and fire his Director. No argument there, but a caution. It is extremely rare for this to occur, precisely because it can be seen as politically motivated. The last time was 24 years ago when Clinton fired William Sessions. in fact - the ONLY other time. The reasons for this were criminal:

"The Justice Department report found, among other things, that Sessions had engaged in a sham transaction to avoid paying taxes on his use of an FBI limousine to take him to and from work, that he had billed the government for a security fence around his home that provided no security and that he had arranged business trips to places where he could meet with relatives."

Sessions dismissed the findings and refused to resign.

Clinton, at the recommendation of his attorney general, Janet Reno, dismissed Sessions.

There is nothing comparable with Comey. The fact that he managed to piss off both sides of the partisan divide in different investigations speaks to his independence from partisan politics.

What's dangerous, really dangerous is firing him in the middle of a high profile active investigation into his boss - President Trump's campaign. You can see how that looks - really bad timing. Made worse by the multitude of lies used to support it. For example...

FICTION - Clapper said there was no evidence of collusion.
Sanders wrongly claimed that former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper said there was “no evidence of collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russians.” Clapper said he was not aware of any evidence, but added that he was not privy to the FBI’s ongoing investigation.

FICTION - claims that Comey had lost the support of the rank and file in the FBI and that the probe into Russian involvement in the 2016 elections was insignificant

The absence of former FBI Director James Comey loomed large over the Senate Intelligence Committee's hearing with top U.S. intelligence leaders, but his temporary replacement, acting FBI Director Andrew McCabe, assured lawmakers he would not bend to pressure from the White House.

"You cannot stop the men and women of the FBI from doing the right thing, protecting the American people and upholding the Constitution," McCabe said.

McCabe directly contradicted White House assertions that one of the reasons Comey was fired by President Trump on Tuesday was because he had lost respect and support of the FBI rank-and-file.

"Director Comey enjoyed broad support within the FBI and still does to this day," McCabe said, saying he holds Comey in the "absolute highest regard."


McCabe also said that the FBI's ongoing probe into Russian involvement in the 2016 elections and possible collusion with the Trump campaign was "highly significant," disputing a White House characterization that the investigation "was one of the smallest things that they've got going on their plate."

"It is my opinion and belief that the FBI will continue to pursue this investigation vigorously and completely," McCabe also said.

In fact, his agents were stunned to hear of Comey's firing.

They privately described a day afterward spent processing the news, swapping praise about their former boss, and grappling with angst that Comey wasn't given a chance to notify employees. Many saw him as a strong and supportive leader even if some believed he at times set the bureau on the wrong path. And many did not want to see him go, especially in the midst of the bureau's investigation into whether President Donald Trump's campaign had ties to Russia's meddling in the election.

White House spokeswoman Sarah Huckabee Sanders said Wednesday that "countless" FBI employees had lost faith in Comey's leadership. But the president of the FBI Agents Association, Thomas O'Connor, said he was known to be responsive to their concerns, and he called the firing a "gut punch."

I certainly disagreed with Comey's actions on the eve of the election - but Trump and team commended it. Either way - it is not a reason to fire him. Nor is his focus on the Russian tampering.

Trump's real reason's for abruptly firing Comey now, of all times? Maybe this article has the man's measure.

After President Trump accused his predecessor in March of wiretapping him, James B. Comey, the F.B.I. director, was flabbergasted. The president, Mr. Comey told associates, was “outside the realm of normal,” even “crazy.”

For his part, Mr. Trump fumed when Mr. Comey publicly dismissed the sensational wiretapping claim. In the weeks that followed, he grew angrier and began talking about firing Mr. Comey. After stewing last weekend while watching Sunday talk shows at his New Jersey golf resort, Mr. Trump decided it was time. There was “something wrong with” Mr. Comey, he told aides.

The collision between president and F.B.I. director that culminated with Mr. Comey’s stunning dismissal on Tuesday had been a long time coming. To a president obsessed with loyalty, Mr. Comey was a rogue operator who could not be trusted as the F.B.I. investigated Russian ties to Mr. Trump’s campaign. To a lawman obsessed with independence, Mr. Trump was the ultimate loose cannon, making irresponsible claims on Twitter and jeopardizing the bureau’s credibility.

What is disturbing is that Trump is a weak, vindictive and petty man in charge of a dangerous assortment of tools upon which our country depends upon for information, for advice and for security and one of those tools is the FBI and it's director.

And now, despite widespread concern and evidence of Russian interference - Trump supporters want the investigation ended. Trump wants his claims of being "wire tapped" to be taken seriously, despite lack of any evidence. And to further muddy the waters - squirrel! Reopen Hillary's email investigation! Forget Russia!

I can't decide if we have a clown in the White House or a toddler. But it doesn't bode well for us as a nation.
rare, share, hare, bare... but it is within the constitutional rights of the president. So?

I''ll keep it simple, because it's something this president doesn't comprehend: Just because you can doesn't mean you SHOULD.
 
I really think it's important to note that in all of our history - only ONCE before was an FBI director fired. ONCE. And it was for criminal acts on his part, and he had refused an offer to resign.

Firing Comey - for no good reason (because it's been shown the reasons were fabricated) - is really not good at this time.
fk coyote, Harry Reid wanted his job. why the fk do you do stupid shit like this?

Harry Reid calls on FBI Director Comey to resign over CIA Russian hacking report

"Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) on Saturday called on FBI Director James Comey to resign, further referring to the embattled FBI leader as “J. Edgar Hoover.”

Hoover served as FBI director from 1924 until his death in 1972. According to Biography.com, Hoover “ordered illegal surveillance against suspected enemies of the state and political opponents” during his tenure at the bureau."

Harry Reid doesn't have the power to fire him nor is he relevent in any way to this :lol:

Agreed. However, many prominent Democrats were calling for his head. They got his head, now they're freaking out over it. Seems a bit bipolar to me. Just say'n!
 
The director of the FBI is first and formost supposed to be independent from partisan politics - he must be in order to function in his role. One of the reasons for making it a ten year term is do enforce that becuase his term crosses administrations.

The President has the right to hire and fire his Director. No argument there, but a caution. It is extremely rare for this to occur, precisely because it can be seen as politically motivated. The last time was 24 years ago when Clinton fired William Sessions. in fact - the ONLY other time. The reasons for this were criminal:

"The Justice Department report found, among other things, that Sessions had engaged in a sham transaction to avoid paying taxes on his use of an FBI limousine to take him to and from work, that he had billed the government for a security fence around his home that provided no security and that he had arranged business trips to places where he could meet with relatives."

Sessions dismissed the findings and refused to resign.

Clinton, at the recommendation of his attorney general, Janet Reno, dismissed Sessions.

There is nothing comparable with Comey. The fact that he managed to piss off both sides of the partisan divide in different investigations speaks to his independence from partisan politics.

What's dangerous, really dangerous is firing him in the middle of a high profile active investigation into his boss - President Trump's campaign. You can see how that looks - really bad timing. Made worse by the multitude of lies used to support it. For example...

FICTION - Clapper said there was no evidence of collusion.
Sanders wrongly claimed that former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper said there was “no evidence of collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russians.” Clapper said he was not aware of any evidence, but added that he was not privy to the FBI’s ongoing investigation.

FICTION - claims that Comey had lost the support of the rank and file in the FBI and that the probe into Russian involvement in the 2016 elections was insignificant

The absence of former FBI Director James Comey loomed large over the Senate Intelligence Committee's hearing with top U.S. intelligence leaders, but his temporary replacement, acting FBI Director Andrew McCabe, assured lawmakers he would not bend to pressure from the White House.

"You cannot stop the men and women of the FBI from doing the right thing, protecting the American people and upholding the Constitution," McCabe said.

McCabe directly contradicted White House assertions that one of the reasons Comey was fired by President Trump on Tuesday was because he had lost respect and support of the FBI rank-and-file.

"Director Comey enjoyed broad support within the FBI and still does to this day," McCabe said, saying he holds Comey in the "absolute highest regard."


McCabe also said that the FBI's ongoing probe into Russian involvement in the 2016 elections and possible collusion with the Trump campaign was "highly significant," disputing a White House characterization that the investigation "was one of the smallest things that they've got going on their plate."

"It is my opinion and belief that the FBI will continue to pursue this investigation vigorously and completely," McCabe also said.

In fact, his agents were stunned to hear of Comey's firing.

They privately described a day afterward spent processing the news, swapping praise about their former boss, and grappling with angst that Comey wasn't given a chance to notify employees. Many saw him as a strong and supportive leader even if some believed he at times set the bureau on the wrong path. And many did not want to see him go, especially in the midst of the bureau's investigation into whether President Donald Trump's campaign had ties to Russia's meddling in the election.

White House spokeswoman Sarah Huckabee Sanders said Wednesday that "countless" FBI employees had lost faith in Comey's leadership. But the president of the FBI Agents Association, Thomas O'Connor, said he was known to be responsive to their concerns, and he called the firing a "gut punch."

I certainly disagreed with Comey's actions on the eve of the election - but Trump and team commended it. Either way - it is not a reason to fire him. Nor is his focus on the Russian tampering.

Trump's real reason's for abruptly firing Comey now, of all times? Maybe this article has the man's measure.

After President Trump accused his predecessor in March of wiretapping him, James B. Comey, the F.B.I. director, was flabbergasted. The president, Mr. Comey told associates, was “outside the realm of normal,” even “crazy.”

For his part, Mr. Trump fumed when Mr. Comey publicly dismissed the sensational wiretapping claim. In the weeks that followed, he grew angrier and began talking about firing Mr. Comey. After stewing last weekend while watching Sunday talk shows at his New Jersey golf resort, Mr. Trump decided it was time. There was “something wrong with” Mr. Comey, he told aides.

The collision between president and F.B.I. director that culminated with Mr. Comey’s stunning dismissal on Tuesday had been a long time coming. To a president obsessed with loyalty, Mr. Comey was a rogue operator who could not be trusted as the F.B.I. investigated Russian ties to Mr. Trump’s campaign. To a lawman obsessed with independence, Mr. Trump was the ultimate loose cannon, making irresponsible claims on Twitter and jeopardizing the bureau’s credibility.

What is disturbing is that Trump is a weak, vindictive and petty man in charge of a dangerous assortment of tools upon which our country depends upon for information, for advice and for security and one of those tools is the FBI and it's director.

And now, despite widespread concern and evidence of Russian interference - Trump supporters want the investigation ended. Trump wants his claims of being "wire tapped" to be taken seriously, despite lack of any evidence. And to further muddy the waters - squirrel! Reopen Hillary's email investigation! Forget Russia!

I can't decide if we have a clown in the White House or a toddler. But it doesn't bode well for us as a nation.
rare, share, hare, bare... but it is within the constitutional rights of the president. So?

I''ll keep it simple, because it's something this president doesn't comprehend: Just because you can doesn't mean you SHOULD.

He felt he should based on the advice given him by the Department of Justice. Comey overstepped his authority last summer. PERIOD.
 
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I really think it's important to note that in all of our history - only ONCE before was an FBI director fired. ONCE. And it was for criminal acts on his part, and he had refused an offer to resign.

Firing Comey - for no good reason (because it's been shown the reasons were fabricated) - is really not good at this time.

https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/3711116/White-House-Fires-James-Comey.pdf

The reasons Trump saw were page 2 here.

I don't think so: Behind Comey’s firing: An enraged Trump, fuming about Russia
 
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The director of the FBI is first and formost supposed to be independent from partisan politics - he must be in order to function in his role. One of the reasons for making it a ten year term is do enforce that becuase his term crosses administrations.

The President has the right to hire and fire his Director. No argument there, but a caution. It is extremely rare for this to occur, precisely because it can be seen as politically motivated. The last time was 24 years ago when Clinton fired William Sessions. in fact - the ONLY other time. The reasons for this were criminal:

"The Justice Department report found, among other things, that Sessions had engaged in a sham transaction to avoid paying taxes on his use of an FBI limousine to take him to and from work, that he had billed the government for a security fence around his home that provided no security and that he had arranged business trips to places where he could meet with relatives."

Sessions dismissed the findings and refused to resign.

Clinton, at the recommendation of his attorney general, Janet Reno, dismissed Sessions.

There is nothing comparable with Comey. The fact that he managed to piss off both sides of the partisan divide in different investigations speaks to his independence from partisan politics.

What's dangerous, really dangerous is firing him in the middle of a high profile active investigation into his boss - President Trump's campaign. You can see how that looks - really bad timing. Made worse by the multitude of lies used to support it. For example...

FICTION - Clapper said there was no evidence of collusion.
Sanders wrongly claimed that former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper said there was “no evidence of collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russians.” Clapper said he was not aware of any evidence, but added that he was not privy to the FBI’s ongoing investigation.

FICTION - claims that Comey had lost the support of the rank and file in the FBI and that the probe into Russian involvement in the 2016 elections was insignificant

The absence of former FBI Director James Comey loomed large over the Senate Intelligence Committee's hearing with top U.S. intelligence leaders, but his temporary replacement, acting FBI Director Andrew McCabe, assured lawmakers he would not bend to pressure from the White House.

"You cannot stop the men and women of the FBI from doing the right thing, protecting the American people and upholding the Constitution," McCabe said.

McCabe directly contradicted White House assertions that one of the reasons Comey was fired by President Trump on Tuesday was because he had lost respect and support of the FBI rank-and-file.

"Director Comey enjoyed broad support within the FBI and still does to this day," McCabe said, saying he holds Comey in the "absolute highest regard."


McCabe also said that the FBI's ongoing probe into Russian involvement in the 2016 elections and possible collusion with the Trump campaign was "highly significant," disputing a White House characterization that the investigation "was one of the smallest things that they've got going on their plate."

"It is my opinion and belief that the FBI will continue to pursue this investigation vigorously and completely," McCabe also said.

In fact, his agents were stunned to hear of Comey's firing.

They privately described a day afterward spent processing the news, swapping praise about their former boss, and grappling with angst that Comey wasn't given a chance to notify employees. Many saw him as a strong and supportive leader even if some believed he at times set the bureau on the wrong path. And many did not want to see him go, especially in the midst of the bureau's investigation into whether President Donald Trump's campaign had ties to Russia's meddling in the election.

White House spokeswoman Sarah Huckabee Sanders said Wednesday that "countless" FBI employees had lost faith in Comey's leadership. But the president of the FBI Agents Association, Thomas O'Connor, said he was known to be responsive to their concerns, and he called the firing a "gut punch."

I certainly disagreed with Comey's actions on the eve of the election - but Trump and team commended it. Either way - it is not a reason to fire him. Nor is his focus on the Russian tampering.

Trump's real reason's for abruptly firing Comey now, of all times? Maybe this article has the man's measure.

After President Trump accused his predecessor in March of wiretapping him, James B. Comey, the F.B.I. director, was flabbergasted. The president, Mr. Comey told associates, was “outside the realm of normal,” even “crazy.”

For his part, Mr. Trump fumed when Mr. Comey publicly dismissed the sensational wiretapping claim. In the weeks that followed, he grew angrier and began talking about firing Mr. Comey. After stewing last weekend while watching Sunday talk shows at his New Jersey golf resort, Mr. Trump decided it was time. There was “something wrong with” Mr. Comey, he told aides.

The collision between president and F.B.I. director that culminated with Mr. Comey’s stunning dismissal on Tuesday had been a long time coming. To a president obsessed with loyalty, Mr. Comey was a rogue operator who could not be trusted as the F.B.I. investigated Russian ties to Mr. Trump’s campaign. To a lawman obsessed with independence, Mr. Trump was the ultimate loose cannon, making irresponsible claims on Twitter and jeopardizing the bureau’s credibility.

What is disturbing is that Trump is a weak, vindictive and petty man in charge of a dangerous assortment of tools upon which our country depends upon for information, for advice and for security and one of those tools is the FBI and it's director.

And now, despite widespread concern and evidence of Russian interference - Trump supporters want the investigation ended. Trump wants his claims of being "wire tapped" to be taken seriously, despite lack of any evidence. And to further muddy the waters - squirrel! Reopen Hillary's email investigation! Forget Russia!

I can't decide if we have a clown in the White House or a toddler. But it doesn't bode well for us as a nation.
rare, share, hare, bare... but it is within the constitutional rights of the president. So?

I''ll keep it simple, because it's something this president doesn't comprehend: Just because you can doesn't mean you SHOULD.

He felt he should based on the advice given him by the Department of Justice. Comey overstepped his authority last summer. PERIOD.

You mean last summer when Trump and you guys were applauding his actions?
 
The director of the FBI is first and formost supposed to be independent from partisan politics - he must be in order to function in his role. One of the reasons for making it a ten year term is do enforce that becuase his term crosses administrations.

The President has the right to hire and fire his Director. No argument there, but a caution. It is extremely rare for this to occur, precisely because it can be seen as politically motivated. The last time was 24 years ago when Clinton fired William Sessions. in fact - the ONLY other time. The reasons for this were criminal:

"The Justice Department report found, among other things, that Sessions had engaged in a sham transaction to avoid paying taxes on his use of an FBI limousine to take him to and from work, that he had billed the government for a security fence around his home that provided no security and that he had arranged business trips to places where he could meet with relatives."

Sessions dismissed the findings and refused to resign.

Clinton, at the recommendation of his attorney general, Janet Reno, dismissed Sessions.

There is nothing comparable with Comey. The fact that he managed to piss off both sides of the partisan divide in different investigations speaks to his independence from partisan politics.

What's dangerous, really dangerous is firing him in the middle of a high profile active investigation into his boss - President Trump's campaign. You can see how that looks - really bad timing. Made worse by the multitude of lies used to support it. For example...

FICTION - Clapper said there was no evidence of collusion.
Sanders wrongly claimed that former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper said there was “no evidence of collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russians.” Clapper said he was not aware of any evidence, but added that he was not privy to the FBI’s ongoing investigation.

FICTION - claims that Comey had lost the support of the rank and file in the FBI and that the probe into Russian involvement in the 2016 elections was insignificant

The absence of former FBI Director James Comey loomed large over the Senate Intelligence Committee's hearing with top U.S. intelligence leaders, but his temporary replacement, acting FBI Director Andrew McCabe, assured lawmakers he would not bend to pressure from the White House.

"You cannot stop the men and women of the FBI from doing the right thing, protecting the American people and upholding the Constitution," McCabe said.

McCabe directly contradicted White House assertions that one of the reasons Comey was fired by President Trump on Tuesday was because he had lost respect and support of the FBI rank-and-file.

"Director Comey enjoyed broad support within the FBI and still does to this day," McCabe said, saying he holds Comey in the "absolute highest regard."


McCabe also said that the FBI's ongoing probe into Russian involvement in the 2016 elections and possible collusion with the Trump campaign was "highly significant," disputing a White House characterization that the investigation "was one of the smallest things that they've got going on their plate."

"It is my opinion and belief that the FBI will continue to pursue this investigation vigorously and completely," McCabe also said.

In fact, his agents were stunned to hear of Comey's firing.

They privately described a day afterward spent processing the news, swapping praise about their former boss, and grappling with angst that Comey wasn't given a chance to notify employees. Many saw him as a strong and supportive leader even if some believed he at times set the bureau on the wrong path. And many did not want to see him go, especially in the midst of the bureau's investigation into whether President Donald Trump's campaign had ties to Russia's meddling in the election.

White House spokeswoman Sarah Huckabee Sanders said Wednesday that "countless" FBI employees had lost faith in Comey's leadership. But the president of the FBI Agents Association, Thomas O'Connor, said he was known to be responsive to their concerns, and he called the firing a "gut punch."

I certainly disagreed with Comey's actions on the eve of the election - but Trump and team commended it. Either way - it is not a reason to fire him. Nor is his focus on the Russian tampering.

Trump's real reason's for abruptly firing Comey now, of all times? Maybe this article has the man's measure.

After President Trump accused his predecessor in March of wiretapping him, James B. Comey, the F.B.I. director, was flabbergasted. The president, Mr. Comey told associates, was “outside the realm of normal,” even “crazy.”

For his part, Mr. Trump fumed when Mr. Comey publicly dismissed the sensational wiretapping claim. In the weeks that followed, he grew angrier and began talking about firing Mr. Comey. After stewing last weekend while watching Sunday talk shows at his New Jersey golf resort, Mr. Trump decided it was time. There was “something wrong with” Mr. Comey, he told aides.

The collision between president and F.B.I. director that culminated with Mr. Comey’s stunning dismissal on Tuesday had been a long time coming. To a president obsessed with loyalty, Mr. Comey was a rogue operator who could not be trusted as the F.B.I. investigated Russian ties to Mr. Trump’s campaign. To a lawman obsessed with independence, Mr. Trump was the ultimate loose cannon, making irresponsible claims on Twitter and jeopardizing the bureau’s credibility.

What is disturbing is that Trump is a weak, vindictive and petty man in charge of a dangerous assortment of tools upon which our country depends upon for information, for advice and for security and one of those tools is the FBI and it's director.

And now, despite widespread concern and evidence of Russian interference - Trump supporters want the investigation ended. Trump wants his claims of being "wire tapped" to be taken seriously, despite lack of any evidence. And to further muddy the waters - squirrel! Reopen Hillary's email investigation! Forget Russia!

I can't decide if we have a clown in the White House or a toddler. But it doesn't bode well for us as a nation.
rare, share, hare, bare... but it is within the constitutional rights of the president. So?

I''ll keep it simple, because it's something this president doesn't comprehend: Just because you can doesn't mean you SHOULD.

He felt he should based on the advice given him by the Department of Justice. Comey overstepped his authority last summer. PERIOD.

You mean last summer when Trump and you guys were applauding his actions?

Frankly, I never thought anything was ever going to come of it anyway. But when he came out and said she broke the law, but he wasn't going to recommend indictment, I found that more than a little odd. Seriously though, I lost zero sleep over it.
 
The Trump Buffoon Thought he could visit the FBI Building ? WTF


Trump Nixes Visit to FBI Headquarters
May 11, 2017


“The White House has abandoned the idea of President Trump visiting FBI headquarters after being told he would not be greeted warmly,” administration officials tell NBC News.


“And FBI agents said that, while many of them voted for Trump, after the president unceremoniously fired a very popular director James Comey few were ready to meet him at the bureau with open arms.”
 
I really think it's important to note that in all of our history - only ONCE before was an FBI director fired. ONCE. And it was for criminal acts on his part, and he had refused an offer to resign.

Firing Comey - for no good reason (because it's been shown the reasons were fabricated) - is really not good at this time.
fk coyote, Harry Reid wanted his job. why the fk do you do stupid shit like this?

Harry Reid calls on FBI Director Comey to resign over CIA Russian hacking report

"Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) on Saturday called on FBI Director James Comey to resign, further referring to the embattled FBI leader as “J. Edgar Hoover.”

Hoover served as FBI director from 1924 until his death in 1972. According to Biography.com, Hoover “ordered illegal surveillance against suspected enemies of the state and political opponents” during his tenure at the bureau."

Harry Reid doesn't have the power to fire him nor is he relevent in any way to this :lol:
Ya not relevant my ass, before trump fired him EVERY democrat in Congress wanted him fired now suddenly he is a hero.
 
The Trump Buffoon Thought he could visit the FBI Building ? WTF


Trump Nixes Visit to FBI Headquarters
May 11, 2017


“The White House has abandoned the idea of President Trump visiting FBI headquarters after being told he would not be greeted warmly,” administration officials tell NBC News.


“And FBI agents said that, while many of them voted for Trump, after the president unceremoniously fired a very popular director James Comey few were ready to meet him at the bureau with open arms.”

What is it with you and the stupid oversized fonts? And tell us, why can't Trump visit the FBI building?
 
I really think it's important to note that in all of our history - only ONCE before was an FBI director fired. ONCE. And it was for criminal acts on his part, and he had refused an offer to resign.

Firing Comey - for no good reason (because it's been shown the reasons were fabricated) - is really not good at this time.

https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/3711116/White-House-Fires-James-Comey.pdf

The reasons Trump saw were page 2 here.

I don't think so: Behind Comey’s firing: An enraged Trump, fuming about Russia


"two advisers said" What two advisers?

"Comey had flown on an FBI plane to Los Angeles for a “diversity and recruiting” event." Oh! oh! The schadenfreude!

"one White House official said"

"But several other people familiar with the events said Trump had talked about the firing for more than a week, and the letters were written to give him a rationale for firing Comey.

Does Trump have leakers all around him? Or is this a fabrication? I'm going with fabrication, because if it's known these kind of things

are getting out to the press, it's very easy to tell who did it.

It really shouldn't be very hard to stop leaks.

In the end, this all hearsay.
 

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