Mayor: Health care costs 'killing us' Richmond shops for new plan after 2011 claims

[The T]

Health care is going to be a thing of the past only left for those who can afford it, a very small percentage of the country. The rest of us had better not get sick. Neither party is concerned about it. Simply getting the gov't out of it is a start but there needs to be a WHOLE WHOLE LOT more driving prices down by 50 percent or more, yes 50 percent. If that isnt reasonable then yes there will be riots in the streets. Good.

The free market has the ability tocompensate/adjust when the Government's meathooks aren't in the fray on behalf of the whiner/moocher-class.

 

[initforme]

"The free market has the ability tocompensate/adjust when the Government's meathooks aren't in the fray on behalf of the whiner/moocher-class."


I dont believe the gov't can fix this crisis. I dont trus the insurance companies. I have little faith in the free market not to take advantage of people. Case closed you could say.
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[The T]

"The free market has the ability tocompensate/adjust when the Government's meathooks aren't in the fray on behalf of the whiner/moocher-class."


I dont believe the gov't can fix this crisis. I dont trus the insurance companies. I have little faith in the free market not to take advantage of people. Case closed you could say.
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I don't trust the Government. What government endeavour doesn't cost double/triple what they say it will cost?

No...I trust the free market, and consumers to exercise thier purse.

 

[initforme]

Well I agree with your stance on the gov't. However, I dont trust the free market more than I can throw it. Wall street is a total abomination and is strictly out to hurt the working class people and all for the wealthy. This cannot be denied. The market only works for a select few. Always has, always will.

 

[initforme]

Time for a janitor who has never gotten ahead to be the prez. Surely I will be investigation just how much money each candidate makes, notice I say make, not earn.

 

[The T]

Well I agree with your stance on the gov't. However, I dont trust the free market more than I can throw it. Wall street is a total abomination and is strictly out to hurt the working class people and all for the wealthy. This cannot be denied. The market only works for a select few. Always has, always will.

Life isn't without consequence...but you have to ask yourself and weigh evidence as to whom is doing more damage to individual liberty?

 

[initforme]

I dont think either party gives a rip about personal liberty. The facts are the system we have is skewed totally towards the wealthy and it takes a complete moron to even argue that the system is fair. I surely am not a cheerleader for this country and what is happening in it. Never have been, never will be.

 

[The T]

I dont think either party gives a rip about personal liberty. The facts are the system we have is skewed totally towards the wealthy and it takes a complete moron to even argue that the system is fair. I surely am not a cheerleader for this country and what is happening in it. Never have been, never will be.

You're getting the picture.

 

[initforme]

And I will also say that reducing my medicare and SS is also violating my liberty as I have paid into them my whole working life. Now I should receive what I am ENTITLED to, yes, ENTITLED to as some repugnant souls think is a bad word even though I had to pay into it. It isnt entitled if I pay even a small part of it.

 

[The T]

And I will also say that reducing my medicare and SS is also violating my liberty as I have paid into them my whole working life. Now I should receive what I am ENTITLED to, yes, ENTITLED to as some repugnant souls think is a bad word even though I had to pay into it. It isnt entitled if I pay even a small part of it.

YOU will be more infuriated to know that your successors after you go won't garner a dime of your 'savings'...and will never be entitled to it by law.

Welcome to Socialist Ponzi Schemes.

 

[Syphon]

"The free market has the ability tocompensate/adjust when the Government's meathooks aren't in the fray on behalf of the whiner/moocher-class."


I dont believe the gov't can fix this crisis. I dont trus the insurance companies. I have little faith in the free market not to take advantage of people. Case closed you could say.
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I don't trust the Government. What government endeavour doesn't cost double/triple what they say it will cost?

No...I trust the free market, and consumers to exercise thier purse.

the free market has caused health care costs to rise 10 fold since 1990.

 

[The T]

"The free market has the ability tocompensate/adjust when the Government's meathooks aren't in the fray on behalf of the whiner/moocher-class."


I dont believe the gov't can fix this crisis. I dont trus the insurance companies. I have little faith in the free market not to take advantage of people. Case closed you could say.
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I don't trust the Government. What government endeavour doesn't cost double/triple what they say it will cost?

No...I trust the free market, and consumers to exercise thier purse.

the free market has caused health care costs to rise 10 fold since 1990.

Sure Governmenment madates of some sort on drugs or other causation isn't in play there sparky?

Careful

 

[beagle9]

Health care is going to be a thing of the past only left for those who can afford it, a very small percentage of the country. The rest of us had better not get sick. Neither party is concerned about it. Simply getting the gov't out of it is a start but there needs to be a WHOLE WHOLE LOT more driving prices down by 50 percent or more, yes 50 percent. If that isnt reasonable then yes there will be riots in the streets. Good.

I was thinking about something today..... How about doing this for starters.... I think that "key doctors", who are living within our society (IMHO), should not have to pay property taxes, they should own their homes and land, and this no matter where they decide to take up residency and/or residence. Otherwise they should have incentives given them within their states, in which in exchange helps to keep their prices low, and they in agreement with, will work hard for society, because society would make it easy on them in these ways. Has anybody explored or thought about this at all ?

Shouldn't we be taking care of the ones who keep us alive and safe in these ways, and then in exchange for that, they agree to keep it affordable for us, as so that we can be treated by them etc. without going broke ????

 

[Syphon]

Health care is going to be a thing of the past only left for those who can afford it, a very small percentage of the country. The rest of us had better not get sick. Neither party is concerned about it. Simply getting the gov't out of it is a start but there needs to be a WHOLE WHOLE LOT more driving prices down by 50 percent or more, yes 50 percent. If that isnt reasonable then yes there will be riots in the streets. Good.

I was thinking about something today..... How about doing this for starters.... I think that "key doctors", who are living within our society (IMHO), should not have to pay property taxes, they should own their homes and land, and this no matter where they decide to take up residency and/or residence. Otherwise they should have incentives given them within their states, in which in exchange helps to keep their prices low, and they in agreement with, will work hard for society, because society would make it easy on them in these ways. Has anybody explored or thought about this at all ?

Shouldn't we be taking care of the ones who keep us alive and safe in these ways, and then in exchange for that, they agree to keep it affordable for us, as so that we can be treated by them etc. without going broke ????

look at some of the countries in europe, such as france. if you choose to be a doctor the government actually pays for your schooling. the idea behind this is that a doctor who is $200,000+ in debt at the end of his/her residency is more inclined to look for that big pay day in order to get out of debt. without a huge debt load more doctors would be willing to take certain jobs to help people, instead of simply to make money.

How training to become a doctor in France differs from the United States

 

[Full-Auto]

"The free market has the ability tocompensate/adjust when the Government's meathooks aren't in the fray on behalf of the whiner/moocher-class."


I dont believe the gov't can fix this crisis. I dont trus the insurance companies. I have little faith in the free market not to take advantage of people. Case closed you could say.
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I don't trust the Government. What government endeavour doesn't cost double/triple what they say it will cost?

No...I trust the free market, and consumers to exercise thier purse.

the free market has caused health care costs to rise 10 fold since 1990.

What free market as government has continued to provide mandates.

 

[rdean]

You posted Paul Ryan's old Roadmap. Are you endorsing its provisions? Specifically:

• State-based exchanges
• High-risk pools
• Statutory benefit standards
• Guaranteed issue rules for insurance policies
• Risk adjustment between insurance plans
• Transparent price and quality data
• New purchasing options for small businesses
• Support for health information technology
• Assistance to states in establishing solutions to medical tort litigation

Are these the things you wanted out of health reform?

You nailed it much better than me. This is what I was going to post:

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DID YOU FUCKING READ YOUR DAMN LINK?????????????????

When he talks about "universal health care", he's saying everyone should be allowed to BUY health care. Fucktard, everyone has always been ALLOWED to buy health care. IF YOU HAVE THE FUCKING MONEY. And if you've lost your job or your child is sick? Then what?

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Your post is much more sensible. But I think it may be a little detailed for the Teanut Gallery. Sometimes it actually works better to talk them in their dialect. Using words and phrases they are familiar with. Most of which I learned here exchanging posts. I was thinking of putting together a manual of right wing phrases and word combinations and their translation into "English". I'll have to give it some thought.

Ryan has a plan that calls for sacrifice from everyone...not just select groups the left likes to coddle...and it has to happen sooner or later.

Kicking the can down the road is no longer an option. We're broke.

Post some quotes from it. Because I just went and looked at it again and didn't see anything like that.

Making Price and Quality Data Available to All.

"Price". Funny for someone ill and with no money. And what is "data" going to do? Republicans don't even like "data", unless they can "make it up".

 

[Syphon]

I don't trust the Government. What government endeavour doesn't cost double/triple what they say it will cost?

No...I trust the free market, and consumers to exercise thier purse.

the free market has caused health care costs to rise 10 fold since 1990.

What free market as government has continued to provide mandates.

what mandates from 1995 are you speaking of?

 

[Full-Auto]

the free market has caused health care costs to rise 10 fold since 1990.

What free market as government has continued to provide mandates.

what mandates from 1995 are you speaking of?

Already moving the posts 5 years.

Thanks for playing.


You still have to explain how a free market works with government interference to boot.

 

[auditor0007]

topped $6 million, leaving less than $51K in cash reserves
11:21 PM, Mar. 10, 2012

Richmond city officials have begun the search for affordable health insurance for city employees in 2013.

Some wonder if there is such a thing in the U.S. anymore?

Faced with soaring health care costs, costs that have bled city coffers almost dry, officials are looking to hire a consultant to start the process to find the cheapest rates and the best deals.

The city is currently self insured, as is Wayne County and Richmond Community Schools. With self insurance, the city collects payment from employees for health care coverage and uses that money to pay medical claims and other costs.

read more Mayor: Health care costs 'killing us' | Palladium-Item | pal-item.com

As can be seen from this article, it's not just that insurance costs are too high; the city is self-insured and they still can't afford it because the amounts being charged by providers is much too high. If we want to reduce healthcare costs, we must find a way to reduce the cost at the source, which is the healthcare itself.

 

[Syphon]

What free market as government has continued to provide mandates.

what mandates from 1995 are you speaking of?

Already moving the posts 5 years.

Thanks for playing.


You still have to explain how a free market works with government interference to boot.

list any mandate from the 90's that has caused an exponential increase in premiums. i dont care if its from 1990 or 1999. just list one that has affected the free market.