NYcarbineer
Diamond Member
No one has been libeled.
Someone make a case for libel, let's say, against Palin. Let's hear it.
Someone make a case for libel, let's say, against Palin. Let's hear it.
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No one has been libeled.
Someone make a case for libel, let's say, against Palin. Let's hear it.
Last Saturday.When did the Right come together to decide they would all but unanimously support the idea that words don't have consequences? That what comes out of the media can't influence anyone's behaviour?
Setting aside Loughner for a moment, when did that change of heart, as a general principle occur?
where are conservatives against personal responsibility in thisLast Saturday.When did the Right come together to decide they would all but unanimously support the idea that words don't have consequences? That what comes out of the media can't influence anyone's behaviour?
Setting aside Loughner for a moment, when did that change of heart, as a general principle occur?
I've not blamed anyone but the shooter for his actions.where are conservatives against personal responsibility in thisLast Saturday.When did the Right come together to decide they would all but unanimously support the idea that words don't have consequences? That what comes out of the media can't influence anyone's behaviour?
Setting aside Loughner for a moment, when did that change of heart, as a general principle occur?
last i knew most were blaming the person ACTUALLY responsible, the shooter
while you and the moronic liberals want to place blame on people not even remotely involved
you still dont get itI've not blamed anyone but the shooter for his actions.where are conservatives against personal responsibility in thisLast Saturday.
last i knew most were blaming the person ACTUALLY responsible, the shooter
while you and the moronic liberals want to place blame on people not even remotely involved
And I've not excused the nutty winger talking heads for their vitriol.
Even with no connection, it is ridiculous to put gunsights on people and talk about killing liberals, etc.
Yeah, I get it. Chucky K. is pretending someone claimed that Palin and Rush are accessories to murder.you still dont get itI've not blamed anyone but the shooter for his actions.where are conservatives against personal responsibility in this
last i knew most were blaming the person ACTUALLY responsible, the shooter
while you and the moronic liberals want to place blame on people not even remotely involved
And I've not excused the nutty winger talking heads for their vitriol.
Even with no connection, it is ridiculous to put gunsights on people and talk about killing liberals, etc.
do you know she was shot only because she was a democrat?Yeah..the shooting of a Democratic Representative..is just about as random as it gets.
See?
The charge: The Tucson massacre is a consequence of the "climate of hate" created by Sarah Palin, the Tea Party, Glenn Beck, Obamacare opponents and sundry other liberal betes noires.
The verdict: Rarely in American political discourse has there been a charge so reckless, so scurrilous and so unsupported by evidence.
As killers go, Jared Loughner is not reticent. Yet among all his writings, postings, videos and other ravings - and in all the testimony from all the people who knew him - there is not a single reference to any of these supposed accessories to murder.
Not only is there no evidence that Loughner was impelled to violence by any of those upon whom Paul Krugman, Keith Olbermann, the New York Times, the Tucson sheriff and other rabid partisans are fixated. There is no evidence that he was responding to anything, political or otherwise, outside of his own head.
A climate of hate? This man lived within his very own private climate. "His thoughts were unrelated to anything in our world," said the teacher of Loughner's philosophy class at Pima Community College. "He was very disconnected from reality," said classmate Lydian Ali. "You know how it is when you talk to someone who's mentally ill and they're just not there?" said neighbor Jason Johnson. "It was like he was in his own world."
His ravings, said one high school classmate, were interspersed with "unnerving, long stupors of silence" during which he would "stare fixedly at his buddies," reported the Wall Street Journal. His own writings are confused, incoherent, punctuated with private numerology and inscrutable taxonomy. He warns of government brainwashing and thought control through "grammar." He was obsessed with "conscious dreaming," a fairly good synonym for hallucinations.
This is not political behavior. These are the signs of a clinical thought disorder - ideas disconnected from each other, incoherent, delusional, detached from reality.
There's more
Charles Krauthammer - Massacre, followed by libel
Any lunkheads who still don't get it, never will.
Yeah..the shooting of a Democratic Representative..is just about as random as it gets.
See?
wrong, conservatives dont "hate" governmentWait...I thought conservatives hated the government?
See how stupid this can get?
You bozos sure are emotionally invested in proving the right is responsible for the shooting.When did the Right come together to decide they would all but unanimously support the idea that words don't have consequences? That what comes out of the media can't influence anyone's behaviour?
Setting aside Loughner for a moment, when did that change of heart, as a general principle occur?
When did the Right come together to decide they would all but unanimously support the idea that words don't have consequences? That what comes out of the media can't influence anyone's behaviour?
Setting aside Loughner for a moment, when did that change of heart, as a general principle occur?
Who's saying that?liberal hate speech DOES lead to violence
conservative hate speech DOES NOT!
right?
When did the Right come together to decide they would all but unanimously support the idea that words don't have consequences? That what comes out of the media can't influence anyone's behaviour?
Setting aside Loughner for a moment, when did that change of heart, as a general principle occur?
Of course words have consequence. That is why we are so upset.
However, It is also worth pointing out (again) that no words by us had the consequence implied.
that is what all this circus has been about this past week. Your blaming us for setting up an environment where he would go nuts because of the words he spoke. Ignoring the words on your side that might also be inflammatory, and ignoring the fact there is no causal relationship.
You folks have been implying that A caused B. Not only do you fail to prove a relation, you refuse to acknowledge proof of no relation between our words and his acts.
Who's saying that?liberal hate speech DOES lead to violence
conservative hate speech DOES NOT!
right?
Yeah, I get it. Chucky K. is pretending someone claimed that Palin and Rush are accessories to murder.you still dont get itI've not blamed anyone but the shooter for his actions.
And I've not excused the nutty winger talking heads for their vitriol.
Even with no connection, it is ridiculous to put gunsights on people and talk about killing liberals, etc.
He's a liar.
Next he'll be supporting the fairness doctrine so none of the hate spewers get their little feelings hurt.