Mass Shootings: We Have To Work Harder

[PoliticalChic]

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I seem to recall some Obama speech about how we are the only country with these mass shooting, the same day as some European nation did.....​

“The one thing we do know is that we have a pattern now of mass shootings in this country that has no parallel anywhere else in the world, and there’s some steps we could take, not to eliminate every one of these mass shootings, but to improve the odds that they don’t happen as frequently.”

— President Obama, interview that aired on CBS Evening News, Dec. 2, 2015


Critics pushed back on that comment immediately, noting that Paris — where Obama was speaking — had just experienced a mass shooting. Mass shootings do happen in other countries, and that statement clearly is false, worthy of Four Pinocchios.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2015/12/03/obamas-inconsistent-claim-on-the-frequency-of-mass-shootings-in-the-u-s-compared-to-other-countries/

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Does the United States have more mass shootings than other countries? It depends on the data.​

Exactly how mass shootings in the U.S. compare to those in other countries is a highly disputed subject. In a widely publicized study originally released in 2015, the pro-gun nonprofit Crime Prevention Research Center (CPRC) compared the annual number of mass shooting deaths per million people in the U.S. to that of Canada and several European countries from 2009 to 2015. The result? Norway led the world with 1.88 deaths per million, followed by Serbia, France, and Macedonia. Where did the U.S. rank? 11th place.

Average (Mean) Annual Death Rate per Million People from Mass Public Shootings (U.S., Canada, and Europe, 2009-2015):​

1. Norway — 1.888
2. Serbia — 0.381
3. France — 0.347
4. Macedonia — 0.337
5. Albania — 0.206
6. Slovakia — 0.185
7. Switzerland — 0.142
8. Finland — 0.132
9. Belgium — 0.128
10. Czech Republic — 0.123
11. United States — 0.089
12. Austria — 0.068
13. Netherlands — 0.051
14. Canada — 0.032
15. England — 0.027
16. Germany — 0.023
17. Russia — 0.012
18. Italy — 0.009

In addition, a 2018 CRPC study ranked the U.S. at number sixty-four in the world in terms of mass shooting rates per capita.

Mass Shootings by Country 2024

 

[PoliticalChic]

Have I mentioned that Democrats lie about everything?



It bears repeating: Democrats lie about everything.

 

[rightwinger]

Norway had ONE mass shooting for a small population.

The US has …..
3 times the number of Canada
3 times the number of England
4 times the number of Germany

Ours are also more horrific

 

[mudwhistle]

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I seem to recall some Obama speech about how we are the only country with these mass shooting, the same day as some European nation did.....​

“The one thing we do know is that we have a pattern now of mass shootings in this country that has no parallel anywhere else in the world, and there’s some steps we could take, not to eliminate every one of these mass shootings, but to improve the odds that they don’t happen as frequently.”

— President Obama, interview that aired on CBS Evening News, Dec. 2, 2015


Critics pushed back on that comment immediately, noting that Paris — where Obama was speaking — had just experienced a mass shooting. Mass shootings do happen in other countries, and that statement clearly is false, worthy of Four Pinocchios.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2015/12/03/obamas-inconsistent-claim-on-the-frequency-of-mass-shootings-in-the-u-s-compared-to-other-countries/

​

Does the United States have more mass shootings than other countries? It depends on the data.​

Exactly how mass shootings in the U.S. compare to those in other countries is a highly disputed subject. In a widely publicized study originally released in 2015, the pro-gun nonprofit Crime Prevention Research Center (CPRC) compared the annual number of mass shooting deaths per million people in the U.S. to that of Canada and several European countries from 2009 to 2015. The result? Norway led the world with 1.88 deaths per million, followed by Serbia, France, and Macedonia. Where did the U.S. rank? 11th place.

Average (Mean) Annual Death Rate per Million People from Mass Public Shootings (U.S., Canada, and Europe, 2009-2015):​

1. Norway — 1.888
2. Serbia — 0.381
3. France — 0.347
4. Macedonia — 0.337
5. Albania — 0.206
6. Slovakia — 0.185
7. Switzerland — 0.142
8. Finland — 0.132
9. Belgium — 0.128
10. Czech Republic — 0.123
11. United States — 0.089
12. Austria — 0.068
13. Netherlands — 0.051
14. Canada — 0.032
15. England — 0.027
16. Germany — 0.023
17. Russia — 0.012
18. Italy — 0.009

In addition, a 2018 CRPC study ranked the U.S. at number sixty-four in the world in terms of mass shooting rates per capita.

Mass Shootings by Country 2024

Democrats instigating violence because they lost the WH:



This is why there is so much violence in America now.

 

[bodecea]

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I seem to recall some Obama speech about how we are the only country with these mass shooting, the same day as some European nation did.....​

“The one thing we do know is that we have a pattern now of mass shootings in this country that has no parallel anywhere else in the world, and there’s some steps we could take, not to eliminate every one of these mass shootings, but to improve the odds that they don’t happen as frequently.”

— President Obama, interview that aired on CBS Evening News, Dec. 2, 2015


Critics pushed back on that comment immediately, noting that Paris — where Obama was speaking — had just experienced a mass shooting. Mass shootings do happen in other countries, and that statement clearly is false, worthy of Four Pinocchios.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2015/12/03/obamas-inconsistent-claim-on-the-frequency-of-mass-shootings-in-the-u-s-compared-to-other-countries/

​

Does the United States have more mass shootings than other countries? It depends on the data.​

Exactly how mass shootings in the U.S. compare to those in other countries is a highly disputed subject. In a widely publicized study originally released in 2015, the pro-gun nonprofit Crime Prevention Research Center (CPRC) compared the annual number of mass shooting deaths per million people in the U.S. to that of Canada and several European countries from 2009 to 2015. The result? Norway led the world with 1.88 deaths per million, followed by Serbia, France, and Macedonia. Where did the U.S. rank? 11th place.

Average (Mean) Annual Death Rate per Million People from Mass Public Shootings (U.S., Canada, and Europe, 2009-2015):​

1. Norway — 1.888
2. Serbia — 0.381
3. France — 0.347
4. Macedonia — 0.337
5. Albania — 0.206
6. Slovakia — 0.185
7. Switzerland — 0.142
8. Finland — 0.132
9. Belgium — 0.128
10. Czech Republic — 0.123
11. United States — 0.089
12. Austria — 0.068
13. Netherlands — 0.051
14. Canada — 0.032
15. England — 0.027
16. Germany — 0.023
17. Russia — 0.012
18. Italy — 0.009

In addition, a 2018 CRPC study ranked the U.S. at number sixty-four in the world in terms of mass shooting rates per capita.

Mass Shootings by Country 2024

Looks like the mass shooters ARE trying harder.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Looks like the mass shooters ARE trying harder.

"In fact, what the media isn’t saying is that many of the fatalities in the Mass Shooting Tracker are actually gang-related – not acts of terrorism or irrational mayhem.



According to the Gun Violence Archive, there have been 12,272 deaths from gunfire in the US so far in 2015. But of these 12,272 deaths, 4,038 stemmed from an officer-involved shooting, 2,085 from a home invasion robbery, 1,755 from accidents, and 1,133 from self-defense.



The number of people killed in “mass shootings” to date in 2015 is 309 – but even these “mass shootings” include gang violence, robberies, and family murder-suicide incidents. As Mark Follman points out in the New York Times, “including them in the same breath suggests that a 1 am gang fight in a Sacramento restaurant, in which two were killed and two injured, is the same kind of event as a deranged man walking into a community college classroom and massacring nine and injuring nine others.”



When you eliminate incidents like gang shootouts, robberies and family murder-suicides, it turns out the number of “mass shootings” are actually far less than the media is claiming.



Mother Jones, that bastion of gun rights fanaticism, counts 73 incidents of mass shootings over the past three decades – roughly two a year."

Are these horrific mass killings really happening 'daily'? | MercatorNet

Before panicking, look at the facts.

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"On December 3, The Washington Post reported that gun crime has been on the decline for about 20 years, except for high-profile shootings in gun-free zones; WaPo claims those shootings are on the increase.​

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According to WaPo, “In 1993, there were seven homicides by firearm for every 100,000 Americans. … By 2013, that figure had fallen by nearly half, to 3.6 [per 100,000].”



Breitbart News previously pointed to this decline and explained it correlated with a massive increase in privately owned firearms over the same period of time. For example,Congressional Research Service showed that the number of privately owned firearms increased from 192 million in 1994 to 310 million in 2009. And record background checks under Obama make it easy to see how tens of millions more privately owned guns have found their way into Americans’ hands since 2009.

So gun ownership increased for 20 years, but “gun homicides” decreased–except in gun free zones." WaPo: Gun Violence Declining, Except in Gun-Free Zones

"More than 40 percent of all 2015’s mass shootings didn’t kill anybody. Another 104, just under 30 percent, had a single fatality, which means more than two-thirds of all “mass shootings” aren’t even multi-homicide events.

Of the 355 “mass shootings” noted by the Post, only 40 of them (about 11 percent) meet the threshold of a “mass murder” as defined by the FBI, meaning there were at least four fatalities. But even these weren’t all mass shootings in the conventional sense. As pointed out by the Washington Free Beacon, many of them were insteadgrisly murder-suicides, gangland massacres, or robberies, eliminating at least 15 more “mass shootings” from the list."
355?! Why This Number Is Meaningless When It Comes To Mass Shootings

 

[PoliticalChic]

The average incident rate for the 28 EU countries is 0.0602 with a 95% confidence Interval of .0257 to .09477. The US rate is 0.078 is higher than the EU rate, but US and the average for EU countries are not statistically different. The average fatality rate for the 28 EU countries is 0.114 with a 95% confidence Interval of -.0244 to .253. The US rate is 0.089 is lower than the EU rate, but they are again not statistically significantly different.

There were 27% more casualties per capita from mass public shootings in EU than US from 2009-15

UPDATED: Comparing Death Rates from Mass Public Shootings and Mass Public Violence in the US and Europe

Update Post: For our latest work comparing mass public shootings across countries, please click here and here. For those interested, Snopes.com has given this research below a “mixed” r…

crimeresearch.org

 

[hadit]

Norway had ONE mass shooting for a small population.

The US has …..
3 times the number of Canada
3 times the number of England
4 times the number of Germany

Ours are also more horrific

And we have a higher population, which I believe is the point.

 

[PoliticalChic]

A headline that tells you all you need to know about Liberals:


"Over 98% of mass shootings occurred on gun-free zones, research shows"
According to the Crime Prevention Research Center, from the 1950’s through July 10th of 2016, 98.4 percent of mass shootings have occurred on gun-free zones, with just 1.6 percent occurring where citizens are allowed to have firearms with them."
Over 98% of mass shootings occurred on gun-free zones, research shows





From 1994 through 2004, a federal ban on ‘assault weapons’ was in place, and it had no detectable effect on crime.



We have a unique advantage in judging calls for a ban on so-called assault weapons: We’ve done it before. From 1994 through 2004, a federal ban on “assault weapons” was in place, and it had no detectable effect on crime. The independent Task Force on Community Preventative Services found no evidence that the assault-weapon ban prevented any violence. The National Research Council’s review of the academic literature on the question found that the data “did not reveal any clear impacts on gun violence.” The Justice Department’s own study suggested that any effects of the law were too small to be statistically measured. Indeed, the only statistically significant outcome that could be detected was a steep rise in prices for various firearms that weren’t banned. Political realities being what they are, it is no surprise that Smith & Wesson shares went up almost 7 percent after the Orlando murders. Against a New Assault-Weapon Ban | National Review






According to Coulter, the one thing we've learned about Gun Free Zones is that killers can't read.

 

[Uncensored2008]

PC is right, virtually all mass shootings are gang related.

School shootings only happen every 4 years, right before democrats are about to lose an election.

 

[PoliticalChic]

 

[White 6]

Looks like the mass shooters ARE trying harder.

Ah, nothing like motivated Americans, eh?

 

[Mac1958]

Partisan ideologues who are capable of nothing more than just pointing the finger at the other tribe will never be a part of the answer. Real life is a bit more complicated than that.

 

[PoliticalChic]

And we have a higher population, which I believe is the point.

A significant part of the problem is that a huge percentage of the immigrants, legal and otherwise, enticed and allowed in by Democrats, come from criminal and corrupt societies.

Since the 1960s, Democrats have instituted a plan to replace Americans with unskilled, welfare needing immigrants, who will be expected to vote Democrat. Destroying American values and heritage is secondary to the Democrats to accruing power.

In her book “Adios, America,” Coulter documents how different in values immigrant from their most favored nation, just South of the border, are.


Why does Mexico have the world's 'most violent' cities? - Al ...
https://www.aljazeera.com › opinions › 5 › why-does-...
Jun 5, 2021 — The city of Celaya in the central Mexican state of Guanajuato came in first with 109.38 homicides per 100,000 inhabitants, followed by Tijuana, ...


Five of the six most violent cities in the world are in Mexico ...
https://www.latimes.com › world › la-fg-mexico-tijuana...
Mar 14, 2019 — The fourth- and fifth-most violent cities, according to the Citizens' Council, were in two of Mexico's northern border states: Ciudad Victoria, ...



Mexico....a violent, corrupt nation, but still the people of choice for immigration, legal or otherwise....buy the Democrats.
Obama told them to go and vote, even if illegals.



BTW....between 1985 and 1999, the native-born in the prison population here increased 99%.
During that time, the foreign-born in the prison population increased 251%.
http://www.doccs.ny.gov/Research/Reports/2010/ForeignBorn_IRP_Report_2009.pdf

 

[Uncensored2008]

Partisan ideologues who are capable of nothing more than just pointing the finger at the other tribe will never be a part of the answer. Real life is a bit more complicated than that.

And the answer is ending civil rights, isn't it Mac?

If the government just has more power... Disarm the peasants, obey big brother, Heil Soros.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Ah, nothing like motivated Americans, eh?

Americans????



Guess where 50% of the Democrat's invitees come from.

Since the 1960s, Democrats have instituted a plan to replace Americans with unskilled, welfare needing immigrants, who will be expected to vote Democrat. Destroying American values and heritage is secondary to the Democrats to accruing power.

In her book “Adios, America,” Coulter documents how different in values immigrant from their most favored nation, just South of the border, are.


Why does Mexico have the world's 'most violent' cities? - Al ...
https://www.aljazeera.com › opinions › 5 › why-does-...
Jun 5, 2021 — The city of Celaya in the central Mexican state of Guanajuato came in first with 109.38 homicides per 100,000 inhabitants, followed by Tijuana, ...


Five of the six most violent cities in the world are in Mexico ...
https://www.latimes.com › world › la-fg-mexico-tijuana...
Mar 14, 2019 — The fourth- and fifth-most violent cities, according to the Citizens' Council, were in two of Mexico's northern border states: Ciudad Victoria, ...



Mexico....a violent, corrupt nation, but still the people of choice for immigration, legal or otherwise....by the Democrats.
Obama told them to go and vote, even if illegals.



BTW....between 1985 and 1999, the native-born in the prison population here increased 99%.
During that time, the foreign-born in the prisn on population increased 251%.
http://www.doccs.ny.gov/Research/Reports/2010/ForeignBorn_IRP_Report_2009.pdf

 

[PoliticalChic]

Partisan ideologues who are capable of nothing more than just pointing the finger at the other tribe will never be a part of the answer. Real life is a bit more complicated than that.

I post facts.....and always documented, linked and sourced.

You, with very little effort, are our best source of Greenhouse gases.

 

[PoliticalChic]

And the answer is ending civil rights, isn't it Mac?

If the government just has more power... Disarm the peasants, obey big brother, Heil Soros.

Well.....be fair to that dunce.....you can't be a Democrat in good standing and actually think.

 

[Uncensored2008]

A significant part of the problem is that a huge percentage of the immigrants, legal and otherwise, enticed and allowed in by Democrats, come from criminal and corrupt societies.

Since the 1960s, Democrats have instituted a plan to replace Americans with unskilled, welfare needing immigrants, who will be expected to vote Democrat. Destroying American values and heritage is secondary to the Democrats to accruing power.

In her book “Adios, America,” Coulter documents how different in values immigrant from their most favored nation, just South of the border, are.


Why does Mexico have the world's 'most violent' cities? - Al ...
https://www.aljazeera.com › opinions › 5 › why-does-...
Jun 5, 2021 — The city of Celaya in the central Mexican state of Guanajuato came in first with 109.38 homicides per 100,000 inhabitants, followed by Tijuana, ...


Five of the six most violent cities in the world are in Mexico ...
https://www.latimes.com › world › la-fg-mexico-tijuana...
Mar 14, 2019 — The fourth- and fifth-most violent cities, according to the Citizens' Council, were in two of Mexico's northern border states: Ciudad Victoria, ...



Mexico....a violent, corrupt nation, but still the people of choice for immigration, legal or otherwise....buy the Democrats.
Obama told them to go and vote, even if illegals.



BTW....between 1985 and 1999, the native-born in the prison population here increased 99%.
During that time, the foreign-born in the prisn on population increased 251%.
http://www.doccs.ny.gov/Research/Reports/2010/ForeignBorn_IRP_Report_2009.pdf

In another thread, someone said Ramos is an illegal alien.

He isn't. He's an "anchor baby." His pregnant mother came to the US illegally so that Ramos would be born on US soil. Ramos is a US Citizen. Yet illegal immigration is still part of the calculous in this case.

 

[mudwhistle]

Looks like the mass shooters ARE trying harder.

Nope. The FBI will use pre-dawn raids to take down parents and Trump Supporters over threats at school board meetings....but won't lift a finger to investigate and stop mass-shootings.