Manhunt for "Oathkeeper"

[Sky Dancer]

"Orders we will NOT obey"

The Oath Keepers feel that their sworn oath to the American Constitution, grants them not only the right, but the duty to refuse unconstitutional orders. The Oath Keepers organization has published a list of orders that they claim they will not obey, the list is as follows:




1. We will NOT obey orders to disarm the American people.


2. We will NOT obey orders to conduct warrantless searches of the American people


3. We will NOT obey orders to detain American citizens as “unlawful enemy combatants” or to subject them to military tribunal.


4. We will NOT obey orders to impose martial law or a “state of emergency” on a state.


5. We will NOT obey orders to invade and subjugate any state that asserts its sovereignty.


6. We will NOT obey any order to blockade American cities, thus turning them into giant concentration camps.


7. We will NOT obey any order to force American citizens into any form of detention camps under any pretext.


8. We will NOT obey orders to assist or support the use of any foreign troops on U.S. soil against the American people to “keep the peace” or to “maintain control."


9. We will NOT obey any orders to confiscate the property of the American people, including food and other essential supplies.


10.We will NOT obey any orders which infringe on the right of the people to free speech, to peaceably assemble, and to petition their government for a redress of grievances.

Oath Keepers - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia​

So, which of these do you disagree with?

The "Oathkeepers"? Give me a break.

 

[bodecea]

When faced with that self inflicked hanging in a jail cell most people will run, wouldn't you? OH thats right you believe the gubermint is good and would never have a person killed to look like they did it to themself.

Wait just a darn minute! What are you doing talking about that when Obama has screwed up our country?

More regulation slowing the economy down why yes his failed EPA is killing the economy.

Deflection...from the story of a accused child-molestor running from his oath.

 

[Missourian]

The point of my post was that I was sure that a German in 1932 (THANK YOU L.K. EDER) probably shared your sentiment that no concentration camps could possibly be instituted in Germany.

It's not a good analogy and it detracts from your argument.

Hitler wrote a book telling everyone what he was going to do. And he did it. Has Obama or any other elected politician in America written such a book?

I haven't read Mein Kampf, and I don't expect I will, but I know that even today the feud continues between Functionalism and Intentionalism.

Even so, I don't think it detracts from my argument.

My reasoning is that I don't believe Germans ever expected what they got from the National Socialist Party.

The argument that no elected officials in the U.S. has written Mein Kampf means the activities that the Oathkeepers emphasize should be discounted is specious.

I could easily envision a dozen likely scenarios where military and law enforcement could be ordered to violate the civil rights of the population.

How about Muslim extremists detonating dirty bombs on American soil with the promise of more attacks.

I could easily envision a round up of middle easterners under the auspices of protecting the citizenry. Fear would overcome reason in the population.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Wait just a darn minute! What are you doing talking about that when Obama has screwed up our country?

More regulation slowing the economy down why yes his failed EPA is killing the economy.

Deflection...from the story of a accused child-molestor running from his oath.

Truth about your obama hurts don't it?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

"Orders we will NOT obey"

The Oath Keepers feel that their sworn oath to the American Constitution, grants them not only the right, but the duty to refuse unconstitutional orders. The Oath Keepers organization has published a list of orders that they claim they will not obey, the list is as follows:




1. We will NOT obey orders to disarm the American people.


2. We will NOT obey orders to conduct warrantless searches of the American people


3. We will NOT obey orders to detain American citizens as “unlawful enemy combatants” or to subject them to military tribunal.


4. We will NOT obey orders to impose martial law or a “state of emergency” on a state.


5. We will NOT obey orders to invade and subjugate any state that asserts its sovereignty.


6. We will NOT obey any order to blockade American cities, thus turning them into giant concentration camps.


7. We will NOT obey any order to force American citizens into any form of detention camps under any pretext.


8. We will NOT obey orders to assist or support the use of any foreign troops on U.S. soil against the American people to “keep the peace” or to “maintain control."


9. We will NOT obey any orders to confiscate the property of the American people, including food and other essential supplies.


10.We will NOT obey any orders which infringe on the right of the people to free speech, to peaceably assemble, and to petition their government for a redress of grievances.

Oath Keepers - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia​

So, which of these do you disagree with?

The "Oathkeepers"? Give me a break.

The oathkeepers membership consists of Military former military Law enforcement and former law enforcemnt
doctor lawyers construction workers so on and so on. This group isn't your basic people

 

[bigrebnc1775]

I thought oatrh keepers were people who had to stand up in front of thousands of others and take an oath to be a good person?
why anyone whould have to take a public oath to be a good person is beyond my understanding though.

Since it appear you never took one fuck off you haven't a clue.

I took one and you are a bunch of scared white racists who fear having a black president. Your lot is through out the military as Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols show.

I live in Kannapolis north carolina come on chickenshit son of a bitch let me know when YOU GET HERE I WILL ENJOY CUTTING YOUR FUCKING GUTS OUT

 

[L.K.Eder]

Since it appear you never took one fuck off you haven't a clue.

I took one and you are a bunch of scared white racists who fear having a black president. Your lot is through out the military as Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols show.

I live in Kannapolis north carolina come on chickenshit son of a bitch let me know when YOU GET HERE I WILL ENJOY CUTTING YOUR FUCKING GUTS OUT

is that part of your oath, cucumber?

 

[Douger]

From Ravi's link ^^



... More incriminating evidence against Dyer has surfaced in a YouTube video. The video shows Dyer, a former U.S. Marine, talking proudly about domestic terrorism. “Join the military?”, said Dyer. “Depends on what you want to do with it. Me? I'm going to use my training and become one of those domestic terrorists that you’re so afraid of from the DHS reports.”

Link to the video or is this just a false flag out right lie against an American willing to defend the document you hate?

Are you an Oath Keeper?

I am.
http://www.venezuelaemb.or.kr/english/ConstitutionoftheBolivarianingles.pdf

 

[L.K.Eder]

Well, I'm sorry to find out that Mo is as big of a nut as BuggerReb.

I am highly disappointed.

I would whether be called a nut and know the truth than be a aproving non suspecting sheeple dependent on the government.

what language is that supposed to be?

 

[Toro]

The point of my post was that I was sure that a German in 1932 (THANK YOU L.K. EDER) probably shared your sentiment that no concentration camps could possibly be instituted in Germany.

It's not a good analogy and it detracts from your argument.

Hitler wrote a book telling everyone what he was going to do. And he did it. Has Obama or any other elected politician in America written such a book?

I haven't read Mein Kampf, and I don't expect I will, but I know that even today the feud continues between Functionalism and Intentionalism.

Even so, I don't think it detracts from my argument.

My reasoning is that I don't believe Germans ever expected what they got from the National Socialist Party.

The argument that no elected officials in the U.S. has written Mein Kampf means the activities that the Oathkeepers emphasize should be discounted is specious.

I could easily envision a dozen likely scenarios where military and law enforcement could be ordered to violate the civil rights of the population.

How about Muslim extremists detonating dirty bombs on American soil with the promise of more attacks.

I could easily envision a round up of middle easterners under the auspices of protecting the citizenry. Fear would overcome reason in the population.

I'm exaggerating somewhat for effect. And I'm sure "A" German - as in singular, one - did not think concentration camps were possible. Maybe there were dozens! However, Hitler laid out pretty clearly what he was going to do, and had organized paramilitary groups before he was elected. Didn't he write Mein Kampf in jail for organizing a coup? See, the analogy doesn't really hold.

But why analogize about Nazi Germany? Why not Sweden or Canada or the UK, where there are strict gun laws too? I think except for the most rabidly ideologically blinkered, the current administration is moving towards the models of the latter than the former. Whether one thinks that is a good thing is another matter, of course, but its best we put this in perspective.

 

[bodecea]

More regulation slowing the economy down why yes his failed EPA is killing the economy.

Deflection...from the story of a accused child-molestor running from his oath.

Truth about your obama hurts don't it?

This thread is not about Obama....your continued deflection is noted.

 

[bodecea]

Since it appear you never took one fuck off you haven't a clue.

I took one and you are a bunch of scared white racists who fear having a black president. Your lot is through out the military as Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols show.

I live in Kannapolis north carolina come on chickenshit son of a bitch let me know when YOU GET HERE I WILL ENJOY CUTTING YOUR FUCKING GUTS OUT

Rawr! So fierce on the interwebz!

 

[bigrebnc1775]

i took one and you are a bunch of scared white racists who fear having a black president. Your lot is through out the military as timothy mcveigh and terry nichols show.

i live in kannapolis north carolina come on chickenshit son of a bitch let me know when you get here i will enjoy cutting your fucking guts out

rawr! So fierce on the interwebz!

nope just giving the fucking racist a chance to take a swing at whitie.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Deflection...from the story of a accused child-molestor running from his oath.

Truth about your obama hurts don't it?

This thread is not about Obama....your continued deflection is noted.

Well ignore me.

 

[Dot Com]

I took one and you are a bunch of scared white racists who fear having a black president. Your lot is through out the military as Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols show.

I live in Kannapolis north carolina come on chickenshit son of a bitch let me know when YOU GET HERE I WILL ENJOY CUTTING YOUR FUCKING GUTS OUT

Rawr! So fierce on the interwebz!

This guy is a typical T-pub base/joke and EXACTLY the Demographic Ailes (Fox) & oxyRush Limbough go after. Whites are going to be in the minority within the next generation. Whats he going to do then?

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[bodecea]

Truth about your obama hurts don't it?

This thread is not about Obama....your continued deflection is noted.

Well ignore me.

And miss the fun? Not bloody likely.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

I live in Kannapolis north carolina come on chickenshit son of a bitch let me know when YOU GET HERE I WILL ENJOY CUTTING YOUR FUCKING GUTS OUT

Rawr! So fierce on the interwebz!

This guy is a typical T-pub base/joke and EXACTLY the Demographic Ailes (Fox) & oxyRush Limbough go after. Whites are going to be in the minority within the next generation. Whats he going to do then?

​

Fuck the internet I will say to your face what I say on here it's just that simple, why do I say that because I can backup what I say.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

This thread is not about Obama....your continued deflection is noted.

Well ignore me.

And miss the fun? Not bloody likely.

Well you'll just have to suck it up then the truth hurts don't like it don't listen to it.

 

[Missourian]

It's not a good analogy and it detracts from your argument.

Hitler wrote a book telling everyone what he was going to do. And he did it. Has Obama or any other elected politician in America written such a book?

I haven't read Mein Kampf, and I don't expect I will, but I know that even today the feud continues between Functionalism and Intentionalism.

Even so, I don't think it detracts from my argument.

My reasoning is that I don't believe Germans ever expected what they got from the National Socialist Party.

The argument that no elected officials in the U.S. has written Mein Kampf means the activities that the Oathkeepers emphasize should be discounted is specious.

I could easily envision a dozen likely scenarios where military and law enforcement could be ordered to violate the civil rights of the population.

How about Muslim extremists detonating dirty bombs on American soil with the promise of more attacks.

I could easily envision a round up of middle easterners under the auspices of protecting the citizenry. Fear would overcome reason in the population.

I'm exaggerating somewhat for effect. And I'm sure "A" German - as in singular, one - did not think concentration camps were possible. Maybe there were dozens! However, Hitler laid out pretty clearly what he was going to do, and had organized paramilitary groups before he was elected. Didn't he write Mein Kampf in jail for organizing a coup? See, the analogy doesn't really hold.

But why analogize about Nazi Germany? Why not Sweden or Canada or the UK, where there are strict gun laws too? I think except for the most rabidly ideologically blinkered, the current administration is moving towards the models of the latter than the former. Whether one thinks that is a good thing is another matter, of course, but its best we put this in perspective.

On the first point, we'll have to agree to disagree.

Basic anthropology dictates that the societies and cultures of a region, such as 1930's Europe, share fundamental similarities.

The fact that every other country and culture in the region at the time considered the atrocities of the National Socialists similarly gives credence to my assessment.

To the second statement...it is erroneous.

The second amendment is stronger today than it has been in in the last 100 years.

Incorporation of the right to keep and bear arms was a huge victory.

Conceal Carry and Castle Doctrines are being passed in states I would have never thought possible.

Illinois is the last state in the union without a conceal carry law.

Violent crime is at historic lows.

Obama and his administration may still be attempting to enact gun control laws, but so far he has been ineffectual.

The ONLY way to remove guns from the hands of the population now is amending the Constitution or illegal seizure.

Oathkeepers swear to uphold the Constitution, so if the Constitution is amended, both they and I will abide by that amendment.

As any reasonable person can see, the only individuals who would take issue with the Oathtakers are people that approved of (in this example) the unconstitutional seizing of legally owned weapons.

 

[George Costanza]

Anything that is for our Republic or Constitution is a fringe group and are radicals.

Is that why so many wingnuts refer to the ACLU as a radical fringe group?