Mandatory drug testing for welfare recipients

[jon_berzerk]

Brownback signs bill that requires welfare, unemployment recipients to be tested for drugs

TOPEKA — Calling drug addiction a “scourge in Kansas,” Gov. Sam Brownback signed into law Tuesday a bill to test welfare and unemployment recipients suspected of using illegal drugs.

“This is a horrific thing that hits so many people,” he said. “What this effort is about is an attempt to get ahead of it and, instead of ignoring the problem, start treating the problem.”

The drug testing bill lets the Department for Children and Families require urine tests of any welfare recipient suspected of using illegal drugs. That could be triggered by a person’s demeanor, missed appointments or police records.

Opponents of the bill said that may leave the decision open to people’s biases. But the bill was swiftly approved by the House 106-16 and backed by the Senate on a 29-9 vote.

Senate Vice President Jeff King, R-Independence, called it “the most treatment-focused drug testing bill in the entire country.”

Any person who is tested and failed, can request a second test and be reimbursed for that test, which runs about $50, if they test clean.

Welfare recipients who fail the test will lose their benefits until they complete a drug treatment and job skills program. That’s paid for by federal welfare funds. A second failed test will result in a year-long loss of benefits. A surrogate can apply for benefits on behalf of children whose parents fail a drug test and lose benefits.

Senate Bill 149, effective July 1, also bans anyone convicted of a drug-related felony from getting welfare for five years. Those convicted a second time lose benefits for life.

The testing program for unemployment recipients is similar, although Department of Labor officials will require employers who usually drug test job applicants to submit a list of people who applied and didn’t get a job because they failed a pre-employment drug screen.

The testing, already required of the governor and several other top state officials, now also extends to House and Senate members suspected of illegal drug use.

Brownback signs bill that requires welfare, unemployment recipients to be tested for drugs | Wichita Eagle

 

[auditor0007]

So another state is going to spend millions of taxpayer dollars to save a few thousand dollars by kicking a couple of pot smokers off of welfare. The stupidity continues. More blaming the poor for all of our problems.

 

[jon_berzerk]

So another state is going to spend millions of taxpayer dollars to save a few thousand dollars by kicking a couple of pot smokers off of welfare. The stupidity continues. More blaming the poor for all of our problems.

doesnt look like they will spend much on it all

but after all it is for the good of the children after all

 

[The2ndAmendment]

Because we need more people in jail!

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[buckeye45_73]

So another state is going to spend millions of taxpayer dollars to save a few thousand dollars by kicking a couple of pot smokers off of welfare. The stupidity continues. More blaming the poor for all of our problems.

so they can buy pot and drugs, but not feed themselves....of course you're too stupid to see the dishonesty in that.

 

[jon_berzerk]

Because we need more people in jail!

Dave Chappelle - Gotcha, bitch! (Original Scene) - YouTube

from what i read

they are not interested in putting anyone in jail

they are however interested in

being somewhat assured that the monies

go to the benefit of the children

and not some drug dealer down the street

 

[Black_Label]

There should be mandatory drug testing for all lawmakers as well as they are also living on taxpayer dime.

Oh wait, it's already been tried and those GOP idiots shot down their own bill. I wonder what drugs are in their systems they were trying to hide?

Indiana welfare drug testing bill withdrawn after lawmakers included | The Raw Story

 

[jon_berzerk]

There should be mandatory drug testing for all lawmakers as well as they are paid by the taxpayers.

Oh wait, it's already been tried and those idiots shot down their own bill. I wonder what drugs are in their systems they were trying to hide?

Indiana welfare drug testing bill withdrawn after lawmakers included | The Raw Story

maybe you missed reading the article

(The testing, already required of the governor and several other top state officials, now also extends to House and Senate members suspected of illegal drug use.)

 

[buckeye45_73]

There should be mandatory drug testing for all lawmakers as well as they are paid by the taxpayers.

Oh wait, it's already been tried and those idiots shot down their own bill. I wonder what drugs are in their systems they were trying to hide?

Indiana welfare drug testing bill withdrawn after lawmakers included | The Raw Story

maybe you missed reading the article

(The testing, already required of the governor and several other top state officials, now also extends to House and Senate members suspected of illegal drug use.)

yep he frequently does that

BTW why dont the democrats have the same feeling with Obamacare? Or anything else.....

 

[jon_berzerk]

There should be mandatory drug testing for all lawmakers as well as they are paid by the taxpayers.

Oh wait, it's already been tried and those idiots shot down their own bill. I wonder what drugs are in their systems they were trying to hide?

Indiana welfare drug testing bill withdrawn after lawmakers included | The Raw Story

maybe you missed reading the article

(The testing, already required of the governor and several other top state officials, now also extends to House and Senate members suspected of illegal drug use.)

yep he frequently does that

BTW why dont the democrats have the same feeling with Obamacare? Or anything else.....

the answer is simple

democrats are only interested in controlling other peoples behaviors

this why they are often known as limousine liberals

disgraced weather shaman al gore is an example of that

having jets yachts giant homes selling his tv show

to big oil

while insisting that you cut back buckle up turn green

 

[Clementine]

Because we need more people in jail!

Dave Chappelle - Gotcha, bitch! (Original Scene) - YouTube

from what i read

they are not interested in putting anyone in jail

they are however interested in

being somewhat assured that the monies

go to the benefit of the children

and not some drug dealer down the street

I've never heard the left bitch about people having to take drug tests when applying for jobs. Why should the workers be singled out, but not those we support?

If people are going into the welfare office requesting help to feed their children, it stands to reason they don't have enough money for drugs. If they are buying drugs regularly, how well are they taking care of their children?

If a person isn't addicted to any drugs, then they'd be smart not to show up for appointments higher than a kite. It's just common sense. When people walk into a welfare office high on drugs, they are too stupid to be parents anyway and the children should be removed from the home. There won't be random drug testing, just when a person appears to be under the influence. If people have any control, it's time to exercise that.

Why aren't more people worried about the children of drug users or alcoholics?

 

[jon_berzerk]

Because we need more people in jail!

Dave Chappelle - Gotcha, bitch! (Original Scene) - YouTube

from what i read

they are not interested in putting anyone in jail

they are however interested in

being somewhat assured that the monies

go to the benefit of the children

and not some drug dealer down the street

I've never heard the left bitch about people having to take drug tests when applying for jobs. Why should the workers be singled out, but not those we support?

If people are going into the welfare office requesting help to feed their children, it stands to reason they don't have enough money for drugs. If they are buying drugs regularly, how well are they taking care of their children?

If a person isn't addicted to any drugs, then they'd be smart not to show up for appointments higher than a kite. It's just common sense. When people walk into a welfare office high on drugs, they are too stupid to be parents anyway and the children should be removed from the home. There won't be random drug testing, just when a person appears to be under the influence. If people have any control, it's time to exercise that.

Why aren't more people worried about the children of drug users or alcoholics?

exactly

and it is a free country

if those who receive benefits do not want to

follow the rules

they are free to get off the system

 

[buckeye45_73]

maybe you missed reading the article

(The testing, already required of the governor and several other top state officials, now also extends to House and Senate members suspected of illegal drug use.)

yep he frequently does that

BTW why dont the democrats have the same feeling with Obamacare? Or anything else.....

the answer is simple

democrats are only interested in controlling other peoples behaviors

this why they are often known as limousine liberals

disgraced weather shaman al gore is an example of that

having jets yachts giant homes selling his tv show

to big oil

while insisting that you cut back buckle up turn green

right on, and lefties think those rich liberals care about them.....bwahahaha.....Al gore says you need to be in grass hut with no electricity, meanwhile he has enormous mansions in multiple states and laughs all the way to the bank....

What's really funn is liberals, NEVER even question that, or THINK about it....it's amazing

 

[Clementine]

from what i read

they are not interested in putting anyone in jail

they are however interested in

being somewhat assured that the monies

go to the benefit of the children

and not some drug dealer down the street

I've never heard the left bitch about people having to take drug tests when applying for jobs. Why should the workers be singled out, but not those we support?

If people are going into the welfare office requesting help to feed their children, it stands to reason they don't have enough money for drugs. If they are buying drugs regularly, how well are they taking care of their children?

If a person isn't addicted to any drugs, then they'd be smart not to show up for appointments higher than a kite. It's just common sense. When people walk into a welfare office high on drugs, they are too stupid to be parents anyway and the children should be removed from the home. There won't be random drug testing, just when a person appears to be under the influence. If people have any control, it's time to exercise that.

Why aren't more people worried about the children of drug users or alcoholics?

exactly

and it is a free country

if those who receive benefits do not want to

follow the rules

they are free to get off the system

I'm waiting for some liberal lawyer to defend the drug using welfare recipients by claiming they'd rather work, but can't get past the drug tests to get the job. I am sure that restricts a good number of people from being gainfully employed. It's insane to support a parents drug habit when the money is supposed to go for food. Someday, lawyers will argue that people have a right to take drugs and no one should ever be questioned or denied anything. Never mind that some children are at risk because of it.

 

[jon_berzerk]

yep he frequently does that

BTW why dont the democrats have the same feeling with Obamacare? Or anything else.....

the answer is simple

democrats are only interested in controlling other peoples behaviors

this why they are often known as limousine liberals

disgraced weather shaman al gore is an example of that

having jets yachts giant homes selling his tv show

to big oil

while insisting that you cut back buckle up turn green

right on, and lefties think those rich liberals care about them.....bwahahaha.....Al gore says you need to be in grass hut with no electricity, meanwhile he has enormous mansions in multiple states and laughs all the way to the bank....

What's really funn is liberals, NEVER even question that, or THINK about it....it's amazing

no they just accept it as the way it is

that is why they are also known as sheeple

 

[jon_berzerk]

I've never heard the left bitch about people having to take drug tests when applying for jobs. Why should the workers be singled out, but not those we support?

If people are going into the welfare office requesting help to feed their children, it stands to reason they don't have enough money for drugs. If they are buying drugs regularly, how well are they taking care of their children?

If a person isn't addicted to any drugs, then they'd be smart not to show up for appointments higher than a kite. It's just common sense. When people walk into a welfare office high on drugs, they are too stupid to be parents anyway and the children should be removed from the home. There won't be random drug testing, just when a person appears to be under the influence. If people have any control, it's time to exercise that.

Why aren't more people worried about the children of drug users or alcoholics?

exactly

and it is a free country

if those who receive benefits do not want to

follow the rules

they are free to get off the system

I'm waiting for some liberal lawyer to defend the drug using welfare recipients by claiming they'd rather work, but can't get past the drug tests to get the job. I am sure that restricts a good number of people from being gainfully employed. It's insane to support a parents drug habit when the money is supposed to go for food. Someday, lawyers will argue that people have a right to take drugs and no one should ever be questioned or denied anything. Never mind that some children are at risk because of it.

i would bet that it will get tested in the courts

 

[buckeye45_73]

Its just too tought for people on welfare...they have drug tests, need ids......wait just like the rest of us....but we work, dont have time.....the welfare people will have to miss a Maury or something....damn it's a tough price to pay.

 

[Black_Label]

Its just too tought for people on welfare...they have drug tests, need ids......wait just like the rest of us....but we work, dont have time.....the welfare people will have to miss a Maury or something....damn it's a tough price to pay.

Very true, the GOP voter base would be eliminated with such legislation.

 

[buckeye45_73]

Its just too tought for people on welfare...they have drug tests, need ids......wait just like the rest of us....but we work, dont have time.....the welfare people will have to miss a Maury or something....damn it's a tough price to pay.

Very true, the GOP voter base would be eliminated with such legislation.

Interesting...how do you figure? Druggies=democrats, people lacking ids=democrats....so well never mind, you dont know enough about about socioeconomics or politics to remain in this disccusion........you're obviously lost.........

 

[Black_Label]

Its just too tought for people on welfare...they have drug tests, need ids......wait just like the rest of us....but we work, dont have time.....the welfare people will have to miss a Maury or something....damn it's a tough price to pay.

Very true, the GOP voter base would be eliminated with such legislation.

Interesting...how do you figure? Druggies=democrats, people lacking ids=democrats....so well never mind, you dont know enough about about socioeconomics or politics to remain in this disccusion........you're obviously lost.........

Druggies = republicans. People living off of welfare = republicans. The dumbest US states = republican. The biggest welfare states = republican. The most inbreeding = republican.

The amount of stupidity coming from the right wingers is astronomical.