Man found shot to death in garage in gun controlled Australia...

[2aguy]

But....they banned and confiscated guns in Australia...

And again.... what is keeping the illegal owner of this gun, someone who is willing to commit murder, from walking into a mall, a church, a school, or a night club and killing lots of people? Which Australian gun control law keeps this from becoming a mass public shooting?

Man found fatally shot in garage

 

[BlackFlag]

But....they banned and confiscated guns in Australia...

And again.... what is keeping the illegal owner of this gun, someone who is willing to commit murder, from walking into a mall, a church, a school, or a night club and killing lots of people? Which Australian gun control law keeps this from becoming a mass public shooting?

Man found fatally shot in garage

Australians now own MORE guns than they did before the 1996 Port Arthur massacre | Daily Mail Online

 

[2aguy]

But....they banned and confiscated guns in Australia...

And again.... what is keeping the illegal owner of this gun, someone who is willing to commit murder, from walking into a mall, a church, a school, or a night club and killing lots of people? Which Australian gun control law keeps this from becoming a mass public shooting?

Man found fatally shot in garage

Australians now own MORE guns than they did before the 1996 Port Arthur massacre | Daily Mail Online

Yes...gun control in Australia is a failure...thank you for pointing that out......

And again......with those guns in private hands....what keeps the owners from walking into a mall, a church, a school, a nightclub? Which Australian gun control law stops mass public shootings when criminals get guns easily?
On a great big island....

 

[BlackFlag]

But....they banned and confiscated guns in Australia...

And again.... what is keeping the illegal owner of this gun, someone who is willing to commit murder, from walking into a mall, a church, a school, or a night club and killing lots of people? Which Australian gun control law keeps this from becoming a mass public shooting?

Man found fatally shot in garage

Australians now own MORE guns than they did before the 1996 Port Arthur massacre | Daily Mail Online

Yes...gun control in Australia is a failure...thank you for pointing that out......

And again......with those guns in private hands....what keeps the owners from walking into a mall, a church, a school, a nightclub? Which Australian gun control law stops mass public shootings when criminals get guns easily?
On a great big island....

The guy in the garage. Dead because gun numbers are back up.

 

[2aguy]

But....they banned and confiscated guns in Australia...

And again.... what is keeping the illegal owner of this gun, someone who is willing to commit murder, from walking into a mall, a church, a school, or a night club and killing lots of people? Which Australian gun control law keeps this from becoming a mass public shooting?

Man found fatally shot in garage

Australians now own MORE guns than they did before the 1996 Port Arthur massacre | Daily Mail Online

Yes...gun control in Australia is a failure...thank you for pointing that out......

And again......with those guns in private hands....what keeps the owners from walking into a mall, a church, a school, a nightclub? Which Australian gun control law stops mass public shootings when criminals get guns easily?
On a great big island....

The guy in the garage. Dead because gun numbers are back up.

No....criminals had guns after they banned and confiscated them....and law abiding gun owners don't use their guns to murder people..... we had massive increases in both gun ownership and people carrying guns for self defense over the last 25 years...massive numbers...and our gun murder rate went down 49%....you are wrong in everything you post about gun ownership both in Australia and in the U.S..... you can't explain with your belief system about guns how our gun murder rate went down 49%......or how gun crime is going up in Australia after they banned and confiscated guns.....

25 years of actual experience....more guns, in more law abiding hands...and the gun murder rate went down 49%..... you are wrong....

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17.25 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

 

[BlackFlag]

But....they banned and confiscated guns in Australia...

And again.... what is keeping the illegal owner of this gun, someone who is willing to commit murder, from walking into a mall, a church, a school, or a night club and killing lots of people? Which Australian gun control law keeps this from becoming a mass public shooting?

Man found fatally shot in garage

Australians now own MORE guns than they did before the 1996 Port Arthur massacre | Daily Mail Online

Yes...gun control in Australia is a failure...thank you for pointing that out......

And again......with those guns in private hands....what keeps the owners from walking into a mall, a church, a school, a nightclub? Which Australian gun control law stops mass public shootings when criminals get guns easily?
On a great big island....

The guy in the garage. Dead because gun numbers are back up.

No....criminals had guns after they banned and confiscated them....and law abiding gun owners don't use their guns to murder people..... we had massive increases in both gun ownership and people carrying guns for self defense over the last 25 years...massive numbers...and our gun murder rate went down 49%....you are wrong in everything you post about gun ownership both in Australia and in the U.S..... you can't explain with your belief system about guns how our gun murder rate went down 49%......or how gun crime is going up in Australia after they banned and confiscated guns.....

25 years of actual experience....more guns, in more law abiding hands...and the gun murder rate went down 49%..... you are wrong....

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17.25 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

Fewer households now with guns in the U.S. than back then. More guns in Australia = more gun crimes

 

[2aguy]

But....they banned and confiscated guns in Australia...

And again.... what is keeping the illegal owner of this gun, someone who is willing to commit murder, from walking into a mall, a church, a school, or a night club and killing lots of people? Which Australian gun control law keeps this from becoming a mass public shooting?

Man found fatally shot in garage

Australians now own MORE guns than they did before the 1996 Port Arthur massacre | Daily Mail Online

Yes...gun control in Australia is a failure...thank you for pointing that out......

And again......with those guns in private hands....what keeps the owners from walking into a mall, a church, a school, a nightclub? Which Australian gun control law stops mass public shootings when criminals get guns easily?
On a great big island....

The guy in the garage. Dead because gun numbers are back up.

No....criminals had guns after they banned and confiscated them....and law abiding gun owners don't use their guns to murder people..... we had massive increases in both gun ownership and people carrying guns for self defense over the last 25 years...massive numbers...and our gun murder rate went down 49%....you are wrong in everything you post about gun ownership both in Australia and in the U.S..... you can't explain with your belief system about guns how our gun murder rate went down 49%......or how gun crime is going up in Australia after they banned and confiscated guns.....

25 years of actual experience....more guns, in more law abiding hands...and the gun murder rate went down 49%..... you are wrong....

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17.25 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

Fewer households now with guns in the U.S. than back then. More guns in Australia = more gun crimes

Wrong again...the biggest growth areas for gun ownership are women and Blacks.....an area where gun ownership had been amazingly low...now they are growing.....and due to the fact that left wing hacks in the press started publishing the names and addresses of legal gun owners, gun owners aren't giving information on ownership rates to the pollsters any more.......

NBC Poll: Does Gun Ownership Increase Or Decrease Safety? Anti-Gun Activists Won't Like The Results.

nearly 6 in 10 Americans believe that getting guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens increases safety.

"In the poll, 58 percent agree with the statement that gun ownership does more to increase safety by allowing law-abiding citizens to protect themselves," NBC News reports. "By contrast, 38 percent say that gun ownership reduces safety by giving too many people access to firearms, increasing the chances for accidental misuse."

------

NBC notes that the overall result is a "reversal" of the findings of a 1999 survey that found that 52 percent of respondents believed gun ownership reduced safety. The more positive perspective on gun ownership is partly reflected in gun ownership trends: "47 percent of American adults say they have a firearm in the household, which is up from 44 percent in 1999."


Is gun ownership really down in America? | Fox News

Surely, gun control advocates such as GSS director Tom Smith view this decline as a good thing. In a 2003 book of mine, I quoted Smith as saying that the large drop in gun ownership would “make it easier for politicians to do the right thing on guns” and pass more restrictive regulations.

Other gun control advocates have mentioned to me that they hope that if people believe fewer people own guns, that may cause others to rethink their decision to own one themselves. It is part of the reason they dramatically exaggerate the risks of having guns in the home.

The Associated Press and Time ignored other polls by Gallup and ABC News/Washington Post.

These polls show that gun ownership rates have been flat over the same period. According to Gallup, household gun ownership has ranged from 51 percent in 1994 to 34 percent in 1999. In 2014, it was at 42 percent – comparable to the 43-45 percent figures during the 1970s.

A 2011 Gallup poll with the headline “Self-Reported Gun Ownership in U.S. Is Highest Since 1993” appears to have gotten no news coverage.


There are other measures that suggest that we should be very careful of relying too heavily on polling to gauge the level of gun ownership. For example, the nationally number of concealed handgun permits has soared over the last decade: rising from about 2.7 million in 1999 to 4.6 million in 2007 to 11.1 million in 2014.

The National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) shows that the number of gun purchases has grown dramatically over time –doubling from 2006 to 2014.

-

 

[candycorn]

That this makes international headlines is a testament to how rare it is over there. Over here, we have 30,000+ gun deaths per year; nobody raises an eyebrow outside of the family

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

Australians now own MORE guns than they did before the 1996 Port Arthur massacre | Daily Mail Online

Yes...gun control in Australia is a failure...thank you for pointing that out......

And again......with those guns in private hands....what keeps the owners from walking into a mall, a church, a school, a nightclub? Which Australian gun control law stops mass public shootings when criminals get guns easily?
On a great big island....

The guy in the garage. Dead because gun numbers are back up.

No....criminals had guns after they banned and confiscated them....and law abiding gun owners don't use their guns to murder people..... we had massive increases in both gun ownership and people carrying guns for self defense over the last 25 years...massive numbers...and our gun murder rate went down 49%....you are wrong in everything you post about gun ownership both in Australia and in the U.S..... you can't explain with your belief system about guns how our gun murder rate went down 49%......or how gun crime is going up in Australia after they banned and confiscated guns.....

25 years of actual experience....more guns, in more law abiding hands...and the gun murder rate went down 49%..... you are wrong....

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17.25 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

Fewer households now with guns in the U.S. than back then. More guns in Australia = more gun crimes

Wrong again...the biggest growth areas for gun ownership are women and Blacks.....an area where gun ownership had been amazingly low...now they are growing.....and due to the fact that left wing hacks in the press started publishing the names and addresses of legal gun owners, gun owners aren't giving information on ownership rates to the pollsters any more.......

NBC Poll: Does Gun Ownership Increase Or Decrease Safety? Anti-Gun Activists Won't Like The Results.

nearly 6 in 10 Americans believe that getting guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens increases safety.

"In the poll, 58 percent agree with the statement that gun ownership does more to increase safety by allowing law-abiding citizens to protect themselves," NBC News reports. "By contrast, 38 percent say that gun ownership reduces safety by giving too many people access to firearms, increasing the chances for accidental misuse."

------

NBC notes that the overall result is a "reversal" of the findings of a 1999 survey that found that 52 percent of respondents believed gun ownership reduced safety. The more positive perspective on gun ownership is partly reflected in gun ownership trends: "47 percent of American adults say they have a firearm in the household, which is up from 44 percent in 1999."


Is gun ownership really down in America? | Fox News

Surely, gun control advocates such as GSS director Tom Smith view this decline as a good thing. In a 2003 book of mine, I quoted Smith as saying that the large drop in gun ownership would “make it easier for politicians to do the right thing on guns” and pass more restrictive regulations.

Other gun control advocates have mentioned to me that they hope that if people believe fewer people own guns, that may cause others to rethink their decision to own one themselves. It is part of the reason they dramatically exaggerate the risks of having guns in the home.

The Associated Press and Time ignored other polls by Gallup and ABC News/Washington Post.

These polls show that gun ownership rates have been flat over the same period. According to Gallup, household gun ownership has ranged from 51 percent in 1994 to 34 percent in 1999. In 2014, it was at 42 percent – comparable to the 43-45 percent figures during the 1970s.

A 2011 Gallup poll with the headline “Self-Reported Gun Ownership in U.S. Is Highest Since 1993” appears to have gotten no news coverage.


There are other measures that suggest that we should be very careful of relying too heavily on polling to gauge the level of gun ownership. For example, the nationally number of concealed handgun permits has soared over the last decade: rising from about 2.7 million in 1999 to 4.6 million in 2007 to 11.1 million in 2014.

The National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) shows that the number of gun purchases has grown dramatically over time –doubling from 2006 to 2014.

-

BlackFag is a great foil for getting the FACTS out. Are you sure you're not paying him to look like a fool?

 

[2aguy]

That this makes international headlines is a testament to how rare it is over there. Over here, we have 30,000+ gun deaths per year; nobody raises an eyebrow outside of the family

It didn't make international headlines.....

We had 11,004 gun murders in 2016...of those 70-80% of the victims were criminals, not law abiding people and in cities like Chicago, the percent of victims murdered being criminals goes up to 90%

You then have gun suicides which do not count since guns do not play a determining factor in suicide....

Then, which you always avoid, you have the fact that our gun murder rate went down 49% over the last 25 years as more Americans own and carried guns.......added to the fact that according to the CDC Americans use their legal guns 1.1 million times a year to save lives, and stop crime.....

So you are dishonest to your core....

 

[2aguy]

Yes...gun control in Australia is a failure...thank you for pointing that out......

And again......with those guns in private hands....what keeps the owners from walking into a mall, a church, a school, a nightclub? Which Australian gun control law stops mass public shootings when criminals get guns easily?
On a great big island....

The guy in the garage. Dead because gun numbers are back up.

No....criminals had guns after they banned and confiscated them....and law abiding gun owners don't use their guns to murder people..... we had massive increases in both gun ownership and people carrying guns for self defense over the last 25 years...massive numbers...and our gun murder rate went down 49%....you are wrong in everything you post about gun ownership both in Australia and in the U.S..... you can't explain with your belief system about guns how our gun murder rate went down 49%......or how gun crime is going up in Australia after they banned and confiscated guns.....

25 years of actual experience....more guns, in more law abiding hands...and the gun murder rate went down 49%..... you are wrong....

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17.25 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

Fewer households now with guns in the U.S. than back then. More guns in Australia = more gun crimes

Wrong again...the biggest growth areas for gun ownership are women and Blacks.....an area where gun ownership had been amazingly low...now they are growing.....and due to the fact that left wing hacks in the press started publishing the names and addresses of legal gun owners, gun owners aren't giving information on ownership rates to the pollsters any more.......

NBC Poll: Does Gun Ownership Increase Or Decrease Safety? Anti-Gun Activists Won't Like The Results.

nearly 6 in 10 Americans believe that getting guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens increases safety.

"In the poll, 58 percent agree with the statement that gun ownership does more to increase safety by allowing law-abiding citizens to protect themselves," NBC News reports. "By contrast, 38 percent say that gun ownership reduces safety by giving too many people access to firearms, increasing the chances for accidental misuse."

------

NBC notes that the overall result is a "reversal" of the findings of a 1999 survey that found that 52 percent of respondents believed gun ownership reduced safety. The more positive perspective on gun ownership is partly reflected in gun ownership trends: "47 percent of American adults say they have a firearm in the household, which is up from 44 percent in 1999."


Is gun ownership really down in America? | Fox News

Surely, gun control advocates such as GSS director Tom Smith view this decline as a good thing. In a 2003 book of mine, I quoted Smith as saying that the large drop in gun ownership would “make it easier for politicians to do the right thing on guns” and pass more restrictive regulations.

Other gun control advocates have mentioned to me that they hope that if people believe fewer people own guns, that may cause others to rethink their decision to own one themselves. It is part of the reason they dramatically exaggerate the risks of having guns in the home.

The Associated Press and Time ignored other polls by Gallup and ABC News/Washington Post.

These polls show that gun ownership rates have been flat over the same period. According to Gallup, household gun ownership has ranged from 51 percent in 1994 to 34 percent in 1999. In 2014, it was at 42 percent – comparable to the 43-45 percent figures during the 1970s.

A 2011 Gallup poll with the headline “Self-Reported Gun Ownership in U.S. Is Highest Since 1993” appears to have gotten no news coverage.


There are other measures that suggest that we should be very careful of relying too heavily on polling to gauge the level of gun ownership. For example, the nationally number of concealed handgun permits has soared over the last decade: rising from about 2.7 million in 1999 to 4.6 million in 2007 to 11.1 million in 2014.

The National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) shows that the number of gun purchases has grown dramatically over time –doubling from 2006 to 2014.

-

BlackFag is a great foil for getting the FACTS out. Are you sure you're not paying him to look like a fool?

No.....I don't need to pay him or the other anti gun loons.....they are stupid for free....

 

[idb]

But....they banned and confiscated guns in Australia...

And again.... what is keeping the illegal owner of this gun, someone who is willing to commit murder, from walking into a mall, a church, a school, or a night club and killing lots of people? Which Australian gun control law keeps this from becoming a mass public shooting?

Man found fatally shot in garage

How do you know it was an illegal gun?
Guns are legally able to be owned in Australia.

 

[Likkmee]

But....they banned and confiscated guns in Australia...

And again.... what is keeping the illegal owner of this gun, someone who is willing to commit murder, from walking into a mall, a church, a school, or a night club and killing lots of people? Which Australian gun control law keeps this from becoming a mass public shooting?

Man found fatally shot in garage

Australians now own MORE guns than they did before the 1996 Port Arthur massacre | Daily Mail Online

Yes...gun control in Australia is a failure...thank you for pointing that out......

And again......with those guns in private hands....what keeps the owners from walking into a mall, a church, a school, a nightclub? Which Australian gun control law stops mass public shootings when criminals get guns easily?
On a great big island....

The guy in the garage. Dead because gun numbers are back up.

Send them Chinese boomerangs with instructions in Da Keweenz " English"

 

[2aguy]

But....they banned and confiscated guns in Australia...

And again.... what is keeping the illegal owner of this gun, someone who is willing to commit murder, from walking into a mall, a church, a school, or a night club and killing lots of people? Which Australian gun control law keeps this from becoming a mass public shooting?

Man found fatally shot in garage

How do you know it was an illegal gun?
Guns are legally able to be owned in Australia.

The moment it was used to commit murder it became an illegal gun.

 

[Crepitus]

But....they banned and confiscated guns in Australia...

And again.... what is keeping the illegal owner of this gun, someone who is willing to commit murder, from walking into a mall, a church, a school, or a night club and killing lots of people? Which Australian gun control law keeps this from becoming a mass public shooting?

Man found fatally shot in garage

Is your faith in your belief so weak you have to spend all day every day searching for isolated incidents of gun violence in countries with strong gun laws just to validate it? Do you have any idea how weak and foolish it makes you look, to make the same desperate posts every day, day after day?

You are a complete laughing stock, nobody but a few other insecure idiots takes you even remotely seriously.

 

[2aguy]

But....they banned and confiscated guns in Australia...

And again.... what is keeping the illegal owner of this gun, someone who is willing to commit murder, from walking into a mall, a church, a school, or a night club and killing lots of people? Which Australian gun control law keeps this from becoming a mass public shooting?

Man found fatally shot in garage

Is your faith in your belief so weak you have to spend all day every day searching for isolated incidents of gun violence in countries with strong gun laws just to validate it? Do you have any idea how weak and foolish it makes you look, to make the same desperate posts every day, day after day?

You are a complete laughing stock, nobody but a few other insecure idiots takes you even remotely seriously.

My faith in the 2nd Amendment is strong, my belief that enemies of our freedom like you will lie and use any excuse to ban and confiscate guns is also strong.

Showing that the gun control laws in Britain and Australia are failures shows that the anti gunners have no arguments to support their beliefs.... you asshats say gun control works in those countries as gun crime goes up in both of those countries....you are the morons, living on borrowed time as their social welfare states increase their violence and gun violence....as well as their importing of violent 3rd world males...

Crime is not a stagnant condition...it is going up, dramatically in Britain and Australia..... and dumb luck is no way to show that gun control works...

 

[HenryBHough]

Obvious fake news.

There are no guns in Australia because they have laws against them.

And everybody turned in their guns and obeys the laws, don't they?

If not then it's clear, Australia needs more laws. Or....fewer people who ignore them. But then they wouldn't be real Australians....

 

[Crepitus]

Your very first statement is an obvious lie, as discussed in my previous post. I didn't bother to read the rest as it was probably just more likes lies and a waste of my time.

 

[Synthaholic]

But....they banned and confiscated guns in Australia...

And again.... what is keeping the illegal owner of this gun, someone who is willing to commit murder, from walking into a mall, a church, a school, or a night club and killing lots of people? Which Australian gun control law keeps this from becoming a mass public shooting?

Man found fatally shot in garage

What’s your point?

 

[HenryBHough]

Your very first statement is an obvious lie, as discussed in my previous post. I didn't bother to read the rest as it was probably just more likes lies and a waste of my time.

You read?