Making progress, 40% of U.S. now allows carrying a gun without a permit.

I hope you all lose your temper and shoot someone, better yet let you child or grandchild find your gun and shoot someone. I am sick of you gun freaks.

You never have to wait long for the untrained and ignorant to kill another child or another innocent adult.

They seem to be very proud of killing innocent people and brag about it all the time. They always against keeping children safe.

I've always owned guns but I remember when I was a kid, my dad making sure I was taught and trained how to be safe. These nutters don't know the first thing about gun safety, about always knowing where you are pointing and shooting. They're all about high caliber and high capacity mags to make up for their lack of skill and knowledge. 2aguy even brags about that. I remember remember very well how my father would have spit on these impotent little twerps who don't even have the balls to wear a gun out in the open.




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Asswipe......it is you...anti gunners, who fight to keep kids from learning gun safety...for you...one dead child in a gun accident is worth their weight in gold when you use them to attack gun ownership......

It is morons like you...who fight to actually put criminals in jail for long periods of time...the repeat violent offenders who are doing the shooting...

the blood is on your hands, not ours....
 
....If I were to go off on a speculative tangent I could bring suspicion to White vigilantes or rogue cops operating clandestinely to randomly kill Black males. That is also a very compelling possibility! I quantify that by the huge number of unsolved murders of Blacks in the FBI UCR!
Death Panels!!!!

Seriously, is that a alcohol-induced "speculative tangent"? A drug-induced one? Or is it just a mentally-ill one?

If you have any evidence that it's "rogue cops" committing these murders of gang-bangers and not other gang-bangers, please provide it.
Even if I had such information on hand, I would be hesitant to post it here. It would provide a source of joy for all the haters on board.

Translation: I don't have any evidence on hand
.

Thanks for your confession. Agreed, there are lots of haters of all races and political persuasion on political forums. There are lots of copperheads and water moccasins in the marshy areas of Texas too. It goes with the territory.
 
Now if we could just get these untrained, bumbling fools to just shoot each other.

Sadly, they kill innocent bystanders - probably more often than they shoot other nutters who are in favor of no training because they know they'd never pass the most basic and most rudimentary training.

You just don't get more stupid than this.


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No asswipe...the people shooting other people are actual criminals..with long histories of crime and violence usually starting in their teen years....90% of murderers are felons with long criminal records.....and who are put back on the street by left wing judges and prosecutors who let them out even after repeat gun offenses....

Normal, law abiding gun owners are not shooting other people....but keep lying...the truth, the facts and the reality will always show your lies....
 
Now if we could just get these untrained, bumbling fools to just shoot each other.

Sadly, they kill innocent bystanders - probably more often than they shoot other nutters who are in favor of no training because they know they'd never pass the most basic and most rudimentary training.

You just don't get more stupid than this.


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actual research shows that concealed carry gun owners are more law abiding than even sworn police officers....moron...

http://people.terry.uga.edu/mustard/culture-data.pdf

For instance, data have compelled me to significantly change my viewpoints on gun-related issues. When I started my research on guns in 1995, I passionately disliked firearms and fully accepted the conventional wisdom that increasing the gunownership rate would necessarily raise violent crime and accidental deaths. My views on this subject were formed primarily by media accounts of firearms, which unknowingly to me systematically emphasized the costs of firearms while virtually ignoring their benefits.5 I thought it obvious that passing laws that permitted law-abiding citizens to carry concealed weapons would create many problems.

---------

I became convinced otherwise and concluded that shall-issue laws—laws that require permits to be granted unless the applicant has a criminal record or a history of significant mental illness—reduce violent crime and have no impact on accidental deaths.6 My transformation is not unique; other scholars, such as Gary Kleck, have significantly changed their views about firearms as they learned more about the evidence.

One of the most startling conclusions leading to my transformation was that concealed-weapons permit holders are extremely law abiding. Rarely do they use their guns for inappropriate purposes.8

I was most surprised that evidence from many different states and time periods overwhelmingly rejects the claim that concealed-carry laws will usher in a new era of the “wild west.”

For example, in Multnomah County, Oregon, only 1 of 11,140 permit holders illegally used a firearm against another person during a four-year period—an annual rate of only 0.2 incidents for every 10,000 holders.9

The annual rate in Florida over a seven-year period was even lower: 18 crimes involving firearms were committed by gun owners with licenses, out of 221,443 total licenses, producing an annual rate of 0.1 incidents for every 10,000 holders.10

Many students, academics, and general citizens have told me how the growing amount and quality of empirical evidence has encouraged them to change their minds on this issue.
 
So, that means that 24% are not criminals. But with 55.5% of all murders going unsolved in Chicago and similar figures nationally, I wouldn't put too much faith in spurious claims that it is all about gangs and criminals.. BTW, not all criminals are murderers or gang members.And not all homicides in the inner cities are murder just because the cops and media say they are.
Spurious claims? Dude, you'd have better luck proving Big Foot exists than of white death squads murdering gang-bangers in Chicago.

What don't you understand about the word "speculative." I made that statement not as fact but as an example of speculation in response to another poster's speculation. My question to you is why you didn't respond to the correct post? Your response doesn't apply here.
 
....If I were to go off on a speculative tangent I could bring suspicion to White vigilantes or rogue cops operating clandestinely to randomly kill Black males. That is also a very compelling possibility! I quantify that by the huge number of unsolved murders of Blacks in the FBI UCR!
Death Panels!!!!

Seriously, is that a alcohol-induced "speculative tangent"? A drug-induced one? Or is it just a mentally-ill one?

If you have any evidence that it's "rogue cops" committing these murders of gang-bangers and not other gang-bangers, please provide it.
Even if I had such information on hand, I would be hesitant to post it here. It would provide a source of joy for all the haters on board.
Translation: I don't have any evidence on hand.

Thanks for your confession. Agreed, there are lots of haters of all races and political persuasion on political forums. There are lots of copperheads and water moccasins in the marshy areas of Texas too. It goes with the territory.
I never claimed to have any such evidence...again what is it abut the word speculative that you don't understand?
 
Slowly, we are taking back the natural right to self defense.......

North Dakota 14th Constitutional Carry State - 40% of US area now allows carrying without a permit - Crime Prevention Research Center

Friday, North Dakota’s Republican Governor Doug Burgum signed legislation making their state the 14th that allows carrying without a concealed handgun permit. The bill had passed the legislature with overwhelming majorities (34 to 13 in the state Senate and 83 to 9 in the state House). North Dakota thus joined New Hampshire in passing Constitutional Carry this year, though it seems unlikely that any more states will pass these laws during the current sessions.


Thinking more about nutters working to end safe gun handling and even celebrating that fewer and fewer are trained to shoot safely.

In remember when it would have been celebrated that 40% had passed a gun safety class. Really shows that the NRA is now just a lobby group to get untrained people shooting children, innocent adults and getting untrained slobs out there, guzzling their beer and slinging guns around.

RWNJs are lazy and ignorant and now they're proud that they're giving their children loaded guns and prouder still that those children have no training.


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And yet.....you are talking out of your ass.......

200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s......and 357-400 million guns in private hands in 2016 and what has been the actual, real world result.....and not just what you are making up...but the reality.....

gun murder down 49%

violent crime down 75%

Accidental gun death...down

non fatal gun accidents down....

nothing you stated in your post is accurate or based in the truth......

Total number of accidental deaths of children due to guns...down....

There is nothing that you post about guns that is even remotely true or accurate......

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr64/nvsr64_02.pdf

Kids murdered by guns....

under 1: 12
age 1-4: 39

age 5-14: 142

total gun murder of children.....193



Kids murdered by other means...

under 1: 270
age 1-4: 298
age 5-14: 135

murder of children by other means.....703


Now, if even if you include gun accidents into the total.....

you are still wrong....

Accidental death by gun for children....

under 1: 3
age 1-4: 27
age 5-14: 39

Total accidental gun death for kids 2013....69
Total accidental gun death for kids in 2014...50
2015...48

2014...50
2013...69
2012...58
2011...74
2010...62
2009...48
2008...62
2007...65
2006...54
2005...75
2004...63
2003...56
2002...60
2001...72
2000...86
1999...88


What pages did you get this from?
 
....If I were to go off on a speculative tangent I could bring suspicion to White vigilantes or rogue cops operating clandestinely to randomly kill Black males. That is also a very compelling possibility! I quantify that by the huge number of unsolved murders of Blacks in the FBI UCR!
Death Panels!!!!

Seriously, is that a alcohol-induced "speculative tangent"? A drug-induced one? Or is it just a mentally-ill one?

If you have any evidence that it's "rogue cops" committing these murders of gang-bangers and not other gang-bangers, please provide it.
From this link
Statistical snapshots from Baltimore's deadliest year: suspects, victims, and cops
I got this:
Among the data and findings: On average, the victims killed in 2015 were substantially more likely than the arrested suspects to have a criminal record; to have prior drug, violent crime and gun arrests; and to be a suspected gang member.

Why are the killers less likely than the victims to have a criminal record, prior arrests for drugs and/or violent crimes or be a suspected gang member?
That fles in the face of your notion that criminals are doing the murdering. It appears, on the surface,that there may be some vigilantism going on in Black neighborhoods.
define substantially more likely


Among the suspects, 76.5 percent had prior criminal records, 62.4 percent had prior drug arrests, 52.9 percent had been arrested for violent crimes, and 41.2 percent had been arrested for gun crimes.

76% of suspects had criminal records

it doesn't matter who they shot but they do tens to shoot other people with criminal records more often than your average Joe

You posted the link; and, the author thereof is the one to define how he wants the word "substantially" to be interpreted. He didn't do a good job of clarifying that. Subsequently, his entire narrative is reduced to a non sequitur whereas he seems to be positing two opposing premises in the same essay.
I attempted to address the seemingly flawed logic of your link in post #543.

when 76% of suspects had a prior record I don't see how you can refute the fact that most people involved in murder are criminals
So, that means that 24% are not criminals. But with 55.5% of all murders going unsolved in Chicago and similar figures nationally, I wouldn't put too much faith in spurious claims that it is all about gangs and criminals.. BTW, not all criminals are murderers or gang members.And not all homicides in the inner cities are murder just because the cops and media say they are.

I gave you stats for more than just Chicago. You do like to cherry pick.
 
I hope you all lose your temper and shoot someone, better yet let you child or grandchild find your gun and shoot someone. I am sick of you gun freaks.

You never have to wait long for the untrained and ignorant to kill another child or another innocent adult.

They seem to be very proud of killing innocent people and brag about it all the time. They always against keeping children safe.

I've always owned guns but I remember when I was a kid, my dad making sure I was taught and trained how to be safe. These nutters don't know the first thing about gun safety, about always knowing where you are pointing and shooting. They're all about high caliber and high capacity mags to make up for their lack of skill and knowledge. 2aguy even brags about that. I remember remember very well how my father would have spit on these impotent little twerps who don't even have the balls to wear a gun out in the open.




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It has been shown to me that I wrote that wrong and left out the word never, but you are right, I read about it all the time, kids shooting each other, teens suicides, etc.

I am sure there are some responsible gun owners like you, and trained about the safety of using a gun and also
I would hope target practice is included by a licensed person, but more and more that is not the case. I even saw Trump passed a law to give gun permits to the mentally ill, but I guess we just have to assume everyone is packing a gun, and anyone can get angry and be having a bad day, and the littlest thing can set them off.

I
 
I hope you all lose your temper and shoot someone, better yet let you child or grandchild find your gun and shoot someone. I am sick of you gun freaks.

You never have to wait long for the untrained and ignorant to kill another child or another innocent adult.

They seem to be very proud of killing innocent people and brag about it all the time. They always against keeping children safe.

I've always owned guns but I remember when I was a kid, my dad making sure I was taught and trained how to be safe. These nutters don't know the first thing about gun safety, about always knowing where you are pointing and shooting. They're all about high caliber and high capacity mags to make up for their lack of skill and knowledge. 2aguy even brags about that. I remember remember very well how my father would have spit on these impotent little twerps who don't even have the balls to wear a gun out in the open.




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It has been shown to me that I wrote that wrong and left out the word never, but you are right, I read about it all the time, kids shooting each other, teens suicides, etc.

I am sure there are some responsible gun owners like you, and trained about the safety of using a gun and also
I would hope target practice is included by a licensed person, but more and more that is not the case. I even saw Trump passed a law to give gun permits to the mentally ill, but I guess we just have to assume everyone is packing a gun, and anyone can get angry and be having a bad day, and the littlest thing can set them off.

I

that mentally ill thing is bullshit because Obama's legislation defined elderly people who had trouble balancing a checkbook as "mentally ill" and was going to use the Social Security Administration to get info on SS recipients

and no matter what your fears are legal CCW permit holders do not just go around willy nilly shooting everyone that pisses them off
 
Now if we could just get these untrained, bumbling fools to just shoot each other.

Sadly, they kill innocent bystanders - probably more often than they shoot other nutters who are in favor of no training because they know they'd never pass the most basic and most rudimentary training.

You just don't get more stupid than this.


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actual research shows that concealed carry gun owners are more law abiding than even sworn police officers....moron...

http://people.terry.uga.edu/mustard/culture-data.pdf

For instance, data have compelled me to significantly change my viewpoints on gun-related issues. When I started my research on guns in 1995, I passionately disliked firearms and fully accepted the conventional wisdom that increasing the gunownership rate would necessarily raise violent crime and accidental deaths. My views on this subject were formed primarily by media accounts of firearms, which unknowingly to me systematically emphasized the costs of firearms while virtually ignoring their benefits.5 I thought it obvious that passing laws that permitted law-abiding citizens to carry concealed weapons would create many problems.

---------

I became convinced otherwise and concluded that shall-issue laws—laws that require permits to be granted unless the applicant has a criminal record or a history of significant mental illness—reduce violent crime and have no impact on accidental deaths.6 My transformation is not unique; other scholars, such as Gary Kleck, have significantly changed their views about firearms as they learned more about the evidence.

One of the most startling conclusions leading to my transformation was that concealed-weapons permit holders are extremely law abiding. Rarely do they use their guns for inappropriate purposes.8

I was most surprised that evidence from many different states and time periods overwhelmingly rejects the claim that concealed-carry laws will usher in a new era of the “wild west.”

For example, in Multnomah County, Oregon, only 1 of 11,140 permit holders illegally used a firearm against another person during a four-year period—an annual rate of only 0.2 incidents for every 10,000 holders.9

The annual rate in Florida over a seven-year period was even lower: 18 crimes involving firearms were committed by gun owners with licenses, out of 221,443 total licenses, producing an annual rate of 0.1 incidents for every 10,000 holders.10

Many students, academics, and general citizens have told me how the growing amount and quality of empirical evidence has encouraged them to change their minds on this issue.

https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/evaluatinggunpolicy_chapter.pdf

What is wrong with Lott and Mustard's conclusion.
 
....If I were to go off on a speculative tangent I could bring suspicion to White vigilantes or rogue cops operating clandestinely to randomly kill Black males. That is also a very compelling possibility! I quantify that by the huge number of unsolved murders of Blacks in the FBI UCR!
Death Panels!!!!

Seriously, is that a alcohol-induced "speculative tangent"? A drug-induced one? Or is it just a mentally-ill one?

If you have any evidence that it's "rogue cops" committing these murders of gang-bangers and not other gang-bangers, please provide it.
Even if I had such information on hand, I would be hesitant to post it here. It would provide a source of joy for all the haters on board.
Translation: I don't have any evidence on hand.

Thanks for your confession. Agreed, there are lots of haters of all races and political persuasion on political forums. There are lots of copperheads and water moccasins in the marshy areas of Texas too. It goes with the territory.
I never claimed to have any such evidence...again what is it abut the word speculative that you don't understand?
Translation: I was just pulling racist shit out of my ass and throwing it. I don't have any evidence of white death squads killing black gang-bangers in Chicago.

Thanks for the admission.
 
Now if we could just get these untrained, bumbling fools to just shoot each other.

Sadly, they kill innocent bystanders - probably more often than they shoot other nutters who are in favor of no training because they know they'd never pass the most basic and most rudimentary training.

You just don't get more stupid than this.


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actual research shows that concealed carry gun owners are more law abiding than even sworn police officers....moron...

http://people.terry.uga.edu/mustard/culture-data.pdf

For instance, data have compelled me to significantly change my viewpoints on gun-related issues. When I started my research on guns in 1995, I passionately disliked firearms and fully accepted the conventional wisdom that increasing the gunownership rate would necessarily raise violent crime and accidental deaths. My views on this subject were formed primarily by media accounts of firearms, which unknowingly to me systematically emphasized the costs of firearms while virtually ignoring their benefits.5 I thought it obvious that passing laws that permitted law-abiding citizens to carry concealed weapons would create many problems.

---------

I became convinced otherwise and concluded that shall-issue laws—laws that require permits to be granted unless the applicant has a criminal record or a history of significant mental illness—reduce violent crime and have no impact on accidental deaths.6 My transformation is not unique; other scholars, such as Gary Kleck, have significantly changed their views about firearms as they learned more about the evidence.

One of the most startling conclusions leading to my transformation was that concealed-weapons permit holders are extremely law abiding. Rarely do they use their guns for inappropriate purposes.8

I was most surprised that evidence from many different states and time periods overwhelmingly rejects the claim that concealed-carry laws will usher in a new era of the “wild west.”

For example, in Multnomah County, Oregon, only 1 of 11,140 permit holders illegally used a firearm against another person during a four-year period—an annual rate of only 0.2 incidents for every 10,000 holders.9

The annual rate in Florida over a seven-year period was even lower: 18 crimes involving firearms were committed by gun owners with licenses, out of 221,443 total licenses, producing an annual rate of 0.1 incidents for every 10,000 holders.10

Many students, academics, and general citizens have told me how the growing amount and quality of empirical evidence has encouraged them to change their minds on this issue.

https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/evaluatinggunpolicy_chapter.pdf

What is wrong with Lott and Mustard's conclusion.
Since crime is falling and concealed-carry laws have increased, why don't you tell me?
 
If I felt that threatened in my day-to-day life that I needed to carry a gun, I'd carry a gun and screw the permit.

But I don't so I don't.

Before I had my permit I considered the risk

I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6

-Geaux
 
Now if we could just get these untrained, bumbling fools to just shoot each other.

Sadly, they kill innocent bystanders - probably more often than they shoot other nutters who are in favor of no training because they know they'd never pass the most basic and most rudimentary training.

You just don't get more stupid than this.


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actual research shows that concealed carry gun owners are more law abiding than even sworn police officers....moron...

http://people.terry.uga.edu/mustard/culture-data.pdf

For instance, data have compelled me to significantly change my viewpoints on gun-related issues. When I started my research on guns in 1995, I passionately disliked firearms and fully accepted the conventional wisdom that increasing the gunownership rate would necessarily raise violent crime and accidental deaths. My views on this subject were formed primarily by media accounts of firearms, which unknowingly to me systematically emphasized the costs of firearms while virtually ignoring their benefits.5 I thought it obvious that passing laws that permitted law-abiding citizens to carry concealed weapons would create many problems.

---------

I became convinced otherwise and concluded that shall-issue laws—laws that require permits to be granted unless the applicant has a criminal record or a history of significant mental illness—reduce violent crime and have no impact on accidental deaths.6 My transformation is not unique; other scholars, such as Gary Kleck, have significantly changed their views about firearms as they learned more about the evidence.

One of the most startling conclusions leading to my transformation was that concealed-weapons permit holders are extremely law abiding. Rarely do they use their guns for inappropriate purposes.8

I was most surprised that evidence from many different states and time periods overwhelmingly rejects the claim that concealed-carry laws will usher in a new era of the “wild west.”

For example, in Multnomah County, Oregon, only 1 of 11,140 permit holders illegally used a firearm against another person during a four-year period—an annual rate of only 0.2 incidents for every 10,000 holders.9

The annual rate in Florida over a seven-year period was even lower: 18 crimes involving firearms were committed by gun owners with licenses, out of 221,443 total licenses, producing an annual rate of 0.1 incidents for every 10,000 holders.10

Many students, academics, and general citizens have told me how the growing amount and quality of empirical evidence has encouraged them to change their minds on this issue.

https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/evaluatinggunpolicy_chapter.pdf

What is wrong with Lott and Mustard's conclusion.
why don't you summarize as not many of us are going to read 56 pages

did you read all 56 pages?
 
Now if we could just get these untrained, bumbling fools to just shoot each other.

Sadly, they kill innocent bystanders - probably more often than they shoot other nutters who are in favor of no training because they know they'd never pass the most basic and most rudimentary training.

You just don't get more stupid than this.


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actual research shows that concealed carry gun owners are more law abiding than even sworn police officers....moron...

http://people.terry.uga.edu/mustard/culture-data.pdf

For instance, data have compelled me to significantly change my viewpoints on gun-related issues. When I started my research on guns in 1995, I passionately disliked firearms and fully accepted the conventional wisdom that increasing the gunownership rate would necessarily raise violent crime and accidental deaths. My views on this subject were formed primarily by media accounts of firearms, which unknowingly to me systematically emphasized the costs of firearms while virtually ignoring their benefits.5 I thought it obvious that passing laws that permitted law-abiding citizens to carry concealed weapons would create many problems.

---------

I became convinced otherwise and concluded that shall-issue laws—laws that require permits to be granted unless the applicant has a criminal record or a history of significant mental illness—reduce violent crime and have no impact on accidental deaths.6 My transformation is not unique; other scholars, such as Gary Kleck, have significantly changed their views about firearms as they learned more about the evidence.

One of the most startling conclusions leading to my transformation was that concealed-weapons permit holders are extremely law abiding. Rarely do they use their guns for inappropriate purposes.8

I was most surprised that evidence from many different states and time periods overwhelmingly rejects the claim that concealed-carry laws will usher in a new era of the “wild west.”

For example, in Multnomah County, Oregon, only 1 of 11,140 permit holders illegally used a firearm against another person during a four-year period—an annual rate of only 0.2 incidents for every 10,000 holders.9

The annual rate in Florida over a seven-year period was even lower: 18 crimes involving firearms were committed by gun owners with licenses, out of 221,443 total licenses, producing an annual rate of 0.1 incidents for every 10,000 holders.10

Many students, academics, and general citizens have told me how the growing amount and quality of empirical evidence has encouraged them to change their minds on this issue.

https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/evaluatinggunpolicy_chapter.pdf

What is wrong with Lott and Mustard's conclusion.
why don't you summarize as not many of us are going to read 56 pages

did you read all 56 pages?

I looked through it and you read it, Mustard's info was taken in the 90 of a few choice states, and today its a different story, there are other things they mentioned as well that didn't really jive. I did glace though Mustard one as well. Now the CDC I did not find anywhere where it compared no of deaths from firearms since the 70's, very little, so his links are very debatable. I then asked him what page and apparently I am not going to get an answer.
 
Slowly, we are taking back the natural right to self defense.......

North Dakota 14th Constitutional Carry State - 40% of US area now allows carrying without a permit - Crime Prevention Research Center

Friday, North Dakota’s Republican Governor Doug Burgum signed legislation making their state the 14th that allows carrying without a concealed handgun permit. The bill had passed the legislature with overwhelming majorities (34 to 13 in the state Senate and 83 to 9 in the state House). North Dakota thus joined New Hampshire in passing Constitutional Carry this year, though it seems unlikely that any more states will pass these laws during the current sessions.


Thinking more about nutters working to end safe gun handling and even celebrating that fewer and fewer are trained to shoot safely.

In remember when it would have been celebrated that 40% had passed a gun safety class. Really shows that the NRA is now just a lobby group to get untrained people shooting children, innocent adults and getting untrained slobs out there, guzzling their beer and slinging guns around.

RWNJs are lazy and ignorant and now they're proud that they're giving their children loaded guns and prouder still that those children have no training.


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And yet.....you are talking out of your ass.......

200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s......and 357-400 million guns in private hands in 2016 and what has been the actual, real world result.....and not just what you are making up...but the reality.....

gun murder down 49%

violent crime down 75%

Accidental gun death...down

non fatal gun accidents down....

nothing you stated in your post is accurate or based in the truth......

Total number of accidental deaths of children due to guns...down....

There is nothing that you post about guns that is even remotely true or accurate......

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr64/nvsr64_02.pdf

Kids murdered by guns....

under 1: 12
age 1-4: 39

age 5-14: 142

total gun murder of children.....193



Kids murdered by other means...

under 1: 270
age 1-4: 298
age 5-14: 135

murder of children by other means.....703


Now, if even if you include gun accidents into the total.....

you are still wrong....

Accidental death by gun for children....

under 1: 3
age 1-4: 27
age 5-14: 39

Total accidental gun death for kids 2013....69
Total accidental gun death for kids in 2014...50
2015...48

2014...50
2013...69
2012...58
2011...74
2010...62
2009...48
2008...62
2007...65
2006...54
2005...75
2004...63
2003...56
2002...60
2001...72
2000...86
1999...88


What pages did you get this from?


That should be in the link...I will check the link......
 
What is next, allowing murder.

We are past that, "stand your ground" encourages deadly force.

No, some asshole attacking you is what encourages deadly force.

Spoken ^^^ with the authority of a gun freak. Having a gun in one's possession has an impact on their judgment, it gives some persons dutch courage, and thus some will go looking for trouble (Zimmerman style); go places they know may be dangerous; provoke violence when discretion is called for; or have Walter Mitty fantasies that they will be a hero for killing another person (judge or jury syndrome).

LE weeds out those who may manifest these and other red flags, during the hiring process and for a period of time under the tutelage of their FTO and superior officers. Civilians have no mentors, no use of force policy, are not trained in non lethal use of force methods, the use of a gun on a range; have not been evaluated by experience officers in the field; superior officers during hiring interviews or psychological evals - written and oral - before ever touching a service weapon.

Do you have a single credible shred of evidence to back up this pile of ridiculous bullshit you call a post?
Naah...he just squatted and bore down.
 
Slowly, we are taking back the natural right to self defense.......

North Dakota 14th Constitutional Carry State - 40% of US area now allows carrying without a permit - Crime Prevention Research Center

Friday, North Dakota’s Republican Governor Doug Burgum signed legislation making their state the 14th that allows carrying without a concealed handgun permit. The bill had passed the legislature with overwhelming majorities (34 to 13 in the state Senate and 83 to 9 in the state House). North Dakota thus joined New Hampshire in passing Constitutional Carry this year, though it seems unlikely that any more states will pass these laws during the current sessions.


Thinking more about nutters working to end safe gun handling and even celebrating that fewer and fewer are trained to shoot safely.

In remember when it would have been celebrated that 40% had passed a gun safety class. Really shows that the NRA is now just a lobby group to get untrained people shooting children, innocent adults and getting untrained slobs out there, guzzling their beer and slinging guns around.

RWNJs are lazy and ignorant and now they're proud that they're giving their children loaded guns and prouder still that those children have no training.


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And yet.....you are talking out of your ass.......

200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s......and 357-400 million guns in private hands in 2016 and what has been the actual, real world result.....and not just what you are making up...but the reality.....

gun murder down 49%

violent crime down 75%

Accidental gun death...down

non fatal gun accidents down....

nothing you stated in your post is accurate or based in the truth......

Total number of accidental deaths of children due to guns...down....

There is nothing that you post about guns that is even remotely true or accurate......

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr64/nvsr64_02.pdf

Kids murdered by guns....

under 1: 12
age 1-4: 39

age 5-14: 142

total gun murder of children.....193



Kids murdered by other means...

under 1: 270
age 1-4: 298
age 5-14: 135

murder of children by other means.....703


Now, if even if you include gun accidents into the total.....

you are still wrong....

Accidental death by gun for children....

under 1: 3
age 1-4: 27
age 5-14: 39

Total accidental gun death for kids 2013....69
Total accidental gun death for kids in 2014...50
2015...48

2014...50
2013...69
2012...58
2011...74
2010...62
2009...48
2008...62
2007...65
2006...54
2005...75
2004...63
2003...56
2002...60
2001...72
2000...86
1999...88


What pages did you get this from?


Here is the link....that one link is limited...this is the Wisqar data base from the CDC and you can break it down by the top 20 causes of death, and different age brackets...

It is better to break it down into the Text...versus the Standard output...you can see the data faster....

It is pretty useful......also, it looks like they have a new Wisqars cite set up.....I haven't tried accessing the data through that one yet....

WISQARS Leading Causes of Death Reports
 
What is next, allowing murder.

We are past that, "stand your ground" encourages deadly force.

No, some asshole attacking you is what encourages deadly force.

Spoken ^^^ with the authority of a gun freak. Having a gun in one's possession has an impact on their judgment, it gives some persons dutch courage, and thus some will go looking for trouble (Zimmerman style); go places they know may be dangerous; provoke violence when discretion is called for; or have Walter Mitty fantasies that they will be a hero for killing another person (judge or jury syndrome).

LE weeds out those who may manifest these and other red flags, during the hiring process and for a period of time under the tutelage of their FTO and superior officers. Civilians have no mentors, no use of force policy, are not trained in non lethal use of force methods, the use of a gun on a range; have not been evaluated by experience officers in the field; superior officers during hiring interviews or psychological evals - written and oral - before ever touching a service weapon.

Do you have a single credible shred of evidence to back up this pile of ridiculous bullshit you call a post?

A 32 year career in LE, more than half of that time as a supervisor or manager: five years as supervisor of the domestic violence unit; three years as training manager; three years as manager of Juvenile, three years managing Internal Affairs and doing the recruitment, vetting (back ground investigations) and recommending to the hiring authority those in my judgement should be given a conditional offer of employment, at which time the more expensive items (medical, psychological and 832 PC training at the academy) would be provided.
In other words: you are one of the cops who thinks that only cops and criminals should be armed.
 

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