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Once again, reb is unable to provide an honest and intelligent response. ONce again, I reminded of the words of Arthur Koestler...
No argument, you idiot. Questions. Why can't you answer them?
so george washington should have packed his fucking bags and got out of the king's country?
You love the constitution and idolize the guys who wrote it- yet you hate anyone who asks a question? How do you feel about traitors and traitorous murderers who wage guerrilla warfare against the government?
so george washington should have packed his fucking bags and got out of the king's country?
You love the constitution and idolize the guys who wrote it- yet you hate anyone who asks a question? How do you feel about traitors and traitorous murderers who wage guerrilla warfare against the government?
idiot king george did not protect The freedoms and liberties of ameicans
Why, exactly?that's why we went to war.
So shut the fuck up and start packing.
Can anyone explain to me why I should feel any loyalty to or camaraderie with some person or group just because we are genetically similar or happened to be born in the same geographical area? Why, other than the rulers' interest in maintaining control, am I expected to be loyal to the system in control at the time and place of my birth?
Don't feel loyalty, feel free to move to Iran anytime you want.
what's entailed in being loyal?
so george washington should have packed his fucking bags and got out of the king's country?
You love the constitution and idolize the guys who wrote it- yet you hate anyone who asks a question? How do you feel about traitors and traitorous murderers who wage guerrilla warfare against the government?
idiot king george did not protect The freedoms and liberties of ameicans
Then why were so many of the FF known to be such loyal Englishmen early on?
Why didn't Franklin (the Tory that he was) do his job? hell, he supported the Stamp Act and he was representing the colonies to the empire. Why did they vote for a guy who spent most of his time in Britain? Same reason they vote for anyone, I guess.
It's debatable regarding the whole taxation thing. Evasion was rampant and most colonists really didn't pay them. If if they had, they're nothing like we see now and you insist this government protects our rights.
If the Colonists had left French-controlled Ohio alone-and not attacked French troops- maybe there wouldn't have been a war to help pay for afterward. Of course, the new taxes to pay for it (save the one on tea) were repealed when the colonists cried about it.
Oh yeah, and Hancock and others were smugglers- they complained because the King tried to prevent their criminal behavior. It's like the Crips waging a war over the government taking the money they made from crack.
So what rights, exactly, did the Crown fail to protect? Keep in mind that the Magna Carta established many of the rights the colonists enjoyed as citizens of the English realm and which they were more than happy to keep in place under common law when this new nation was established.Why, exactly?that's why we went to war.
So shut the fuck up and start packing.
Get a rabies shot and calm down. Answer the questions I asked earlier.
What about after that, when they decided they didn't like living under the Articles of Confederation anymore?I'm wondering whether the people in this thread who are saying "move elsewhere" would of told the Founding Fathers they should just suck it up and move to France if they don't like living here.
Answer the questions, coward
So you can't answer the question
Proof positive that Americanism is a religion
The [dogmatic] novice, subjecting his soul to the canon law of [the leaders], [feels] something of the release which Catholicism also brings... Once the renunciation has been made, the mind, instead of operating freely, becomes the servant of a higher and unquestioned purpose. To deny the truth is an act of service. This, of course, is why it is useless to discuss any particular aspect of [the matter] with [these people]. Any genuine intellectual contact which you have with him involves a challenge to his fundamental faith, a struggle for his soul. For it is very much easier to lay the oblation of spiritual pride on the alter of [political vision] than to snatch it back again
The God that Failed
Can anyone explain to me why I should feel any loyalty to or camaraderie with some person or group just because we are genetically similar or happened to be born in the same geographical area? Why, other than the rulers' interest in maintaining control, am I expected to be loyal to the system in control at the time and place of my birth?
Its a privilege to be called an American. The BEST privilege known to man!
I don't agree with Obama and hope he loses the 2012 election, but I would take offense of a foreigner verbally attacking him
So you're back to simply being a coward too scared to address an issue that chalanges your faith...
that seems to be your usual MO