LONDON, not 'Scotland' Released terrorist..for OIL

[concept]

You know, maybe we should just withdraw from the rest of the world and let them deal with everything for a change.

I don't think that's a bad idea at all. I bet our troops would much rather guard our borders than those of South Korea and Iraq.

And think of all the money you'd save!

So easy a caveman could do it?

 

[garyd]

Far less? It wouldn't be a drop in the bucket. The entire military budget is only 20% of the total federal budget. And most of that consists of soldiers salaries and maintenance of their equipment. Pearl Harbor had nothing to do with us? Unrestricted submarine warfare had nothing to do with us? That's delusional af best and stupid at worst.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

Far less? It wouldn't be a drop in the bucket. The entire military budget is only 20% of the total federal budget. And most of that consists of soldiers salaries and maintenance of their equipment.

Ending our occupation of the over 130 countries we're currently in, ending the war on terror or whatever it's called these days, and getting many people out of the armed services and back into the private sector would be a huge boon to our economy. That's certainly more than a drop in the bucket.

 

[concept]

There is nothing wrong with protecting our borders and our interests abroad. But maybe we should let other countries see to their own defense instead of us doing it for them.

Plus, I would like to see a harder stance on national security. In other words, fuck with us at your own peril. No more regime change, just regime anihalation.



What the Brits did is a slap in the face to us. Especially in light of Obama's preaching about regaining the respect we had lost. What a crock that was. :LOL:
I thought he was going to make it better? More bullshit from him.

 

[concept]

o listen to ya....this is hardly new.....iran...hostages...reagan...guns for hostages....fancy that....i dont agree with releasing this guy...i think it was a horrible call and i have compassion...but not for this murderer....who had no clue who was on this plane and yet was willing to kill..innocent children...etc...i dont have to preach to the choir here...but i wont toss too many stones when our government deals with terrorists daily. all governments do. iran/carter...shah of iran....unfortunately we are not able to enforce the norms and morality of our country onto another country.

as for the isolationism drums....then what in the hell are you gonna do with one of the world's largest standing armies?

i will be sitting over here waiting on yall to answer that one? tell me how an economy with a high unemployment rate is gonna absorb them?

Unemployment would certainly go up, but it would ultimately be better for the economy. Our government would be spending far less which would mean a giant monkey off the back of our economy.

The insane left would just find some other socialist project to spend the money on.

 

[DiveCon]

Far less? It wouldn't be a drop in the bucket. The entire military budget is only 20% of the total federal budget. And most of that consists of soldiers salaries and maintenance of their equipment.

Ending our occupation of the over 130 countries we're currently in, ending the war on terror or whatever it's called these days, and getting many people out of the armed services and back into the private sector would be a huge boon to our economy. That's certainly more than a drop in the bucket.

um, with nearly 10% unemployment?

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

Pearl Harbor had nothing to do with us? Unrestricted submarine warfare had nothing to do with us? That's delusional af best and stupid at worst.

Pearl Harbor was a result of our aggressive policies toward Japan. As for Germany's submarine warfare, why do you think Americans should have the right to travel on a belligerents ship in a declared war-zone with no repercussions? It makes no sense. It's also selective outrage to only look at Germany's tactics during the war. Let's not forget that Germany's submarine warfare was in response to Britain's blockade of their country, which didn't just target Germany. They blockaded off international waters and attacked neutral ships as well as German.

 

[Contessa_Sharra]

Well it's okay to lay some blame on the scots too, it was a scottish dude that gave the final order.. evidently his bagpipes weren't big enough to just say NO. Well, I knew after reading all the comments from the UK voicing anti American sentiment.. we have no friends..there. so personally I choose not to spend money in the UK or to buy UK products..

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[Kevin_Kennedy]

Far less? It wouldn't be a drop in the bucket. The entire military budget is only 20% of the total federal budget. And most of that consists of soldiers salaries and maintenance of their equipment.

Ending our occupation of the over 130 countries we're currently in, ending the war on terror or whatever it's called these days, and getting many people out of the armed services and back into the private sector would be a huge boon to our economy. That's certainly more than a drop in the bucket.

um, with nearly 10% unemployment?

Well it's like I said in an earlier post, unemployment would surely go up. However, our armed forces are financed by the taxpayer, so having less individuals in the armed forces would be an overall plus for the economy.

 

[WillowTree]

o listen to ya....this is hardly new.....iran...hostages...reagan...guns for hostages....fancy that....i dont agree with releasing this guy...i think it was a horrible call and i have compassion...but not for this murderer....who had no clue who was on this plane and yet was willing to kill..innocent children...etc...i dont have to preach to the choir here...but i wont toss too many stones when our government deals with terrorists daily. all governments do. iran/carter...shah of iran....unfortunately we are not able to enforce the norms and morality of our country onto another country.

as for the isolationism drums....then what in the hell are you gonna do with one of the world's largest standing armies? We already told ya. We are going to protect our country for a change. Let the others fend for themselves.

i will be sitting over here waiting on yall to answer that one? tell me how an economy with a high unemployment rate is gonna absorb them?

Who on this tread tried to enforce our norms and morality of our country onto another? Obviously the UK can do whatever she pleases. We don't have to like it though. Do we?

 

[concept]

Pearl Harbor had nothing to do with us? Unrestricted submarine warfare had nothing to do with us? That's delusional af best and stupid at worst.

Pearl Harbor was a result of our aggressive policies toward Japan. As for Germany's submarine warfare, why do you think Americans should have the right to travel on a belligerents ship in a declared war-zone with no repercussions? It makes no sense. It's also selective outrage to only look at Germany's tactics during the war. Let's not forget that Germany's submarine warfare was in response to Britain's blockade of their country, which didn't just target Germany. They blockaded off international waters and attacked neutral ships as well as German.

ALways our fault.....

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

Pearl Harbor had nothing to do with us? Unrestricted submarine warfare had nothing to do with us? That's delusional af best and stupid at worst.

Pearl Harbor was a result of our aggressive policies toward Japan. As for Germany's submarine warfare, why do you think Americans should have the right to travel on a belligerents ship in a declared war-zone with no repercussions? It makes no sense. It's also selective outrage to only look at Germany's tactics during the war. Let's not forget that Germany's submarine warfare was in response to Britain's blockade of their country, which didn't just target Germany. They blockaded off international waters and attacked neutral ships as well as German.

ALways our fault.....

Who said it was our fault? I was merely pointing out that Japan attacked us because of our policies toward them, obviously not because we were neutral or practicing a non-interventionist foreign policy.

 

[WillowTree]

Pearl Harbor was a result of our aggressive policies toward Japan. As for Germany's submarine warfare, why do you think Americans should have the right to travel on a belligerents ship in a declared war-zone with no repercussions? It makes no sense. It's also selective outrage to only look at Germany's tactics during the war. Let's not forget that Germany's submarine warfare was in response to Britain's blockade of their country, which didn't just target Germany. They blockaded off international waters and attacked neutral ships as well as German.

ALways our fault.....

Who said it was our fault? I was merely pointing out that Japan attacked us because of our policies toward them, obviously not because we were neutral or practicing a non-interventionist foreign policy.

what policies? so if the US disagrees with another countries polices toward US we can sneak up and attack them?? goosey gander stuff? or does that road only run one way?? I guess in the end we showed Japan what aggressive really was didn't we?

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

ALways our fault.....

Who said it was our fault? I was merely pointing out that Japan attacked us because of our policies toward them, obviously not because we were neutral or practicing a non-interventionist foreign policy.

what policies? so if the US disagrees with another countries polices toward US we can sneak up and attack them?? goosey gander stuff? or does that road only run one way?? I guess in the end we showed Japan what aggressive really was didn't we?

We do attack or enact subversive policies toward nations with policies we don't agree with, our policies toward Japan preceding Pearl Harbor are evidence of this. For one we sold weapons to China who Japan was at war with, and what ultimately provoked Japan into attacking us was our cutting off oil shipments to Japan by coordinating a boycott.

 

[WillowTree]

Who said it was our fault? I was merely pointing out that Japan attacked us because of our policies toward them, obviously not because we were neutral or practicing a non-interventionist foreign policy.

what policies? so if the US disagrees with another countries polices toward US we can sneak up and attack them?? goosey gander stuff? or does that road only run one way?? I guess in the end we showed Japan what aggressive really was didn't we?

We do attack or enact subversive policies toward nations with policies we don't agree with, our policies toward Japan preceding Pearl Harbor are evidence of this. For one we sold weapons to China who Japan was at war with, and what ultimately provoked Japan into attacking us was our cutting off oil shipments to Japan by coordinating a boycott.

and why did we boycott Japan?

 

[xsited1]

LONDON, not 'Scotland' Released terrorist..for OIL

Have they blamed the Bush Administration yet?

 

[DiveCon]

what policies? so if the US disagrees with another countries polices toward US we can sneak up and attack them?? goosey gander stuff? or does that road only run one way?? I guess in the end we showed Japan what aggressive really was didn't we?

We do attack or enact subversive policies toward nations with policies we don't agree with, our policies toward Japan preceding Pearl Harbor are evidence of this. For one we sold weapons to China who Japan was at war with, and what ultimately provoked Japan into attacking us was our cutting off oil shipments to Japan by coordinating a boycott.

and why did we boycott Japan?

because they were attacking china, a friend at that time

 

[Dr Grump]

Pearl Harbor had nothing to do with us? Unrestricted submarine warfare had nothing to do with us? That's delusional af best and stupid at worst.

Pearl Harbor was a result of our aggressive policies toward Japan. As for Germany's submarine warfare, why do you think Americans should have the right to travel on a belligerents ship in a declared war-zone with no repercussions? It makes no sense. It's also selective outrage to only look at Germany's tactics during the war. Let's not forget that Germany's submarine warfare was in response to Britain's blockade of their country, which didn't just target Germany. They blockaded off international waters and attacked neutral ships as well as German.

ALways our fault.....

Well, you do it to yourselves all the time. To a Con, anything bad is Obama's fault, to a Lib anything bad is Bush's fault.

 

[DiveCon]

Pearl Harbor was a result of our aggressive policies toward Japan. As for Germany's submarine warfare, why do you think Americans should have the right to travel on a belligerents ship in a declared war-zone with no repercussions? It makes no sense. It's also selective outrage to only look at Germany's tactics during the war. Let's not forget that Germany's submarine warfare was in response to Britain's blockade of their country, which didn't just target Germany. They blockaded off international waters and attacked neutral ships as well as German.

ALways our fault.....

Well, you do it to yourselves all the time. To a Con, anything bad is Obama's fault, to a Lib anything bad is Bush's fault.

and thats basically the extremes
because MOST people know that neither of them had the power or authority to actually do anything they are blamed for

 

[Xenophon]

LONDON, not 'Scotland' Released terrorist..for OIL

Have they blamed the Bush Administration yet?

Not that I have seen, but that chimpola must have been involved somehow.