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That must have been terrible, why $1.60 in 1970's dollars only has the buying power of $9.50 today.I worked for a minimum wage of $1.60 back in the early 70's
Inflation Calculator: Bureau of Labor Statistics
BTW, I worked less than 20 hours a week. It was to pay for the used car my twin brother and I bought together and buy gas. Minimum wage jobs are starter jobs or extra income jobs. They are not jobs that you can support yourself with. Never have been, never will be.
That must have been terrible, why $1.60 in 1970's dollars only has the buying power of $9.50 today.I worked for a minimum wage of $1.60 back in the early 70's
Inflation Calculator: Bureau of Labor Statistics
That's all you got out of my post? Really?
That must have been terrible, why $1.60 in 1970's dollars only has the buying power of $9.50 today.
Inflation Calculator: Bureau of Labor Statistics
That's all you got out of my post? Really?
Once again you ignore the real issue. How many people are hired at minimum wage and 5 years later are at the same job making maybe 50 cents more an hour than when hired? Or a dollar even.
Here's a newsflash, some companies aren't exactly reasonable with their pay.
That's all you got out of my post? Really?
Once again you ignore the real issue. How many people are hired at minimum wage and 5 years later are at the same job making maybe 50 cents more an hour than when hired? Or a dollar even.
Here's a newsflash, some companies aren't exactly reasonable with their pay.
If a person takes a minimum wage job and they're still working at it 5 years later for 50 cents more an hour, they would be someone who lacks any intelligence or ambition. As a Boy Scout leader, I deal with a lot of teenagers. When they get a job making minimum wage, they typically get a raise from anywhere between their first 3 months and first year. Most of them eventually take their work experience and find a better job paying more. It's how real life works. These kids are in school and living at home. They have minimum wage jobs because they have no work experience and they need pocket money. If you are a married person with children, a mortgage, car payments, etc. and all you can find is a minimum wage job, then you need to start expanding your range and be willing to uproot and move to where there is a good job. I don't blame an employer who has a minimum wage job for continuing to pay minimum wage. I blame the worker who thinks a minimum wage job is supposed to morph into a living wage job. That can happen if the employer has additional higher paying jobs and you do a good enough job to be moved into them as you gain more knowledge and experience. But if you work for a nursery digging holes to plant trees.....you may be the best hole digger in the world, but your pay is going to remain pretty much the same.
Once again you ignore the real issue. How many people are hired at minimum wage and 5 years later are at the same job making maybe 50 cents more an hour than when hired? Or a dollar even.
Here's a newsflash, some companies aren't exactly reasonable with their pay.
If a person takes a minimum wage job and they're still working at it 5 years later for 50 cents more an hour, they would be someone who lacks any intelligence or ambition. As a Boy Scout leader, I deal with a lot of teenagers. When they get a job making minimum wage, they typically get a raise from anywhere between their first 3 months and first year. Most of them eventually take their work experience and find a better job paying more. It's how real life works. These kids are in school and living at home. They have minimum wage jobs because they have no work experience and they need pocket money. If you are a married person with children, a mortgage, car payments, etc. and all you can find is a minimum wage job, then you need to start expanding your range and be willing to uproot and move to where there is a good job. I don't blame an employer who has a minimum wage job for continuing to pay minimum wage. I blame the worker who thinks a minimum wage job is supposed to morph into a living wage job. That can happen if the employer has additional higher paying jobs and you do a good enough job to be moved into them as you gain more knowledge and experience. But if you work for a nursery digging holes to plant trees.....you may be the best hole digger in the world, but your pay is going to remain pretty much the same.
Certainly that makes more sense than accepting the fact that some people are just not capable of more, and oh yeah SOMEONE has to do those jobs anyway, may as well ensure that those who are don't have to go on welfare to help make ends meet.
If a person takes a minimum wage job and they're still working at it 5 years later for 50 cents more an hour, they would be someone who lacks any intelligence or ambition. As a Boy Scout leader, I deal with a lot of teenagers. When they get a job making minimum wage, they typically get a raise from anywhere between their first 3 months and first year. Most of them eventually take their work experience and find a better job paying more. It's how real life works. These kids are in school and living at home. They have minimum wage jobs because they have no work experience and they need pocket money. If you are a married person with children, a mortgage, car payments, etc. and all you can find is a minimum wage job, then you need to start expanding your range and be willing to uproot and move to where there is a good job. I don't blame an employer who has a minimum wage job for continuing to pay minimum wage. I blame the worker who thinks a minimum wage job is supposed to morph into a living wage job. That can happen if the employer has additional higher paying jobs and you do a good enough job to be moved into them as you gain more knowledge and experience. But if you work for a nursery digging holes to plant trees.....you may be the best hole digger in the world, but your pay is going to remain pretty much the same.
Certainly that makes more sense than accepting the fact that some people are just not capable of more, and oh yeah SOMEONE has to do those jobs anyway, may as well ensure that those who are don't have to go on welfare to help make ends meet.
Here is what makes sense. Just about anyone who isn't physically or mentally handicapped can bag groceries, dig holes or take movie tickets. Doing brain surgery requires a bit more effort and ability. Different jobs have different worths and different pay. A guy who owns a gorcery store knows that he will have a constant influx of new employees made up of teenagers getting their first job or housewives bringing in a little extra income. That is who he hires and he knows that he won't be handing any of them a gold watch after 30 years of loyal service. Minimum wage jobs fill a vital role in our economy, but they are a springboard. They are the kindergarten of jobs. It takes a lot to get from there to a PHD. You take a low paying starter job doing menial labor that any other person on t he face of the earth can do. If you do a good job, you'll most likely get a bump in pay. If you're really good and there are better high paying jobs in the company, you can probably move up and make more pay as they come available. Or you hear from your friend that the warehouse he works at is hiring and they pay $10 an hour and you go apply. The manager interviews you and looks at the work experience you've built up and decides to hire you. You graduate high school and because you and/or your family don't have a lot of money, you choose the vo-tech or community college. You study plumbing, HVAC, etc. or you take EMT training or get an associates in accounting. You find a job making more than your $10 per hour warehouse job you did as a kid. Then you lather, rinse and repeat.
Now tell me how it's the grocery store owner's fault that you don't take some personal initiative to better yourself over time.
That must have been terrible, why $1.60 in 1970's dollars only has the buying power of $9.50 today.I worked for a minimum wage of $1.60 back in the early 70's
Inflation Calculator: Bureau of Labor Statistics
companies dont pay their employees? now thats a laugh, oh you are too much
why should employees start out in poverty at all?
Just what is wrong with a declining standard of living for Americans?
But I got to ask, home inspect. What is it that I have become dependent on government for?
I have multiple homes, tens of thousands of dollars, a job and my wife has a good job. We pay our taxes on time utilizing the same deductions you do.
So tell me, what is it that I get from the US governmet that you don't.
Certainly that makes more sense than accepting the fact that some people are just not capable of more, and oh yeah SOMEONE has to do those jobs anyway, may as well ensure that those who are don't have to go on welfare to help make ends meet.
Here is what makes sense. Just about anyone who isn't physically or mentally handicapped can bag groceries, dig holes or take movie tickets. Doing brain surgery requires a bit more effort and ability. Different jobs have different worths and different pay. A guy who owns a gorcery store knows that he will have a constant influx of new employees made up of teenagers getting their first job or housewives bringing in a little extra income. That is who he hires and he knows that he won't be handing any of them a gold watch after 30 years of loyal service. Minimum wage jobs fill a vital role in our economy, but they are a springboard. They are the kindergarten of jobs. It takes a lot to get from there to a PHD. You take a low paying starter job doing menial labor that any other person on t he face of the earth can do. If you do a good job, you'll most likely get a bump in pay. If you're really good and there are better high paying jobs in the company, you can probably move up and make more pay as they come available. Or you hear from your friend that the warehouse he works at is hiring and they pay $10 an hour and you go apply. The manager interviews you and looks at the work experience you've built up and decides to hire you. You graduate high school and because you and/or your family don't have a lot of money, you choose the vo-tech or community college. You study plumbing, HVAC, etc. or you take EMT training or get an associates in accounting. You find a job making more than your $10 per hour warehouse job you did as a kid. Then you lather, rinse and repeat.
Now tell me how it's the grocery store owner's fault that you don't take some personal initiative to better yourself over time.
Dude, we are talking about people who are incapable of bettering themselves. Do you deny that those folks exist? Of course they do, and of course anyone who i making anywhere within a dollar of MW within say 2 years of being hired is probably one of them, but being incapable of bettering oneself is NOT a reason to deny people human dignity.
Here is what makes sense. Just about anyone who isn't physically or mentally handicapped can bag groceries, dig holes or take movie tickets. Doing brain surgery requires a bit more effort and ability. Different jobs have different worths and different pay. A guy who owns a gorcery store knows that he will have a constant influx of new employees made up of teenagers getting their first job or housewives bringing in a little extra income. That is who he hires and he knows that he won't be handing any of them a gold watch after 30 years of loyal service. Minimum wage jobs fill a vital role in our economy, but they are a springboard. They are the kindergarten of jobs. It takes a lot to get from there to a PHD. You take a low paying starter job doing menial labor that any other person on t he face of the earth can do. If you do a good job, you'll most likely get a bump in pay. If you're really good and there are better high paying jobs in the company, you can probably move up and make more pay as they come available. Or you hear from your friend that the warehouse he works at is hiring and they pay $10 an hour and you go apply. The manager interviews you and looks at the work experience you've built up and decides to hire you. You graduate high school and because you and/or your family don't have a lot of money, you choose the vo-tech or community college. You study plumbing, HVAC, etc. or you take EMT training or get an associates in accounting. You find a job making more than your $10 per hour warehouse job you did as a kid. Then you lather, rinse and repeat.
Now tell me how it's the grocery store owner's fault that you don't take some personal initiative to better yourself over time.
Dude, we are talking about people who are incapable of bettering themselves. Do you deny that those folks exist? Of course they do, and of course anyone who i making anywhere within a dollar of MW within say 2 years of being hired is probably one of them, but being incapable of bettering oneself is NOT a reason to deny people human dignity.
Please reread my highlighted comment above for content. For the people who fit in this category, safety nets already exist. Forcing every employer in the nation to pay a higher wage because of a small minority of people isn't the solution now is it? Know why? Because just like welfare, there are people out there who will take advantage of it. It's easier to work a starter job for 20 years and make enough to live off of than to apply yourself and better yourself to have more. Do you deny that those folks exist?
The 90%+ income tax rates were a product of war financing. While the very high rates were only for millionaires (and a million a year of income was quite a bit in 1942!) the rates were comparatively high for everyone. The economics were simple: with consumer goods production cut to the bone to divert resources to war production, some way had to be found to limit consumption and avoid inflationary pressures of large holdings of cash by the public. The answer was rationing, price controls, selling War bonds to the public, and high taxes.tax rate was 94% coming out of ww2, myth bustedIf taxes and all that government support are so good for the economy, then why doesn't the government actually raise taxes that high? Because doing so would crush the economy faster than anything else.
Not everyone who is not suited for a better job is handicapped man.
The 90%+ income tax rates were a product of war financing. While the very high rates were only for millionaires (and a million a year of income was quite a bit in 1942!) the rates were comparatively high for everyone. The economics were simple: with consumer goods production cut to the bone to divert resources to war production, some way had to be found to limit consumption and avoid inflationary pressures of large holdings of cash by the public. The answer was rationing, price controls, selling War bonds to the public, and high taxes.
After the war marginal income tax rates came down, especially on the working class. The Kennedy tax cuts made the top rate 50% on personal service earned income, and 70% on everything else. These rates prevailed during the period of highest economic growth in modern American history.
Not everyone who is not suited for a better job is handicapped man.
What determines who is suited for a better job? Should there be commissars who decide what jobs people hold? Maybe Obama can appoint people who will decide the position and wage of every person in America? The evil rich can clean toilets and not be paid, while Janitors can be put in charge of IBM and Monsanto!
Forcing every employer in the nation to pay a higher wage because of a small minority of people isn't the solution now is it? Know why? Because just like welfare, there are people out there who will take advantage of it. It's easier to work a starter job for 20 years and make enough to live off of than to apply yourself and better yourself to have more. Do you deny that those folks exist?
Forcing every employer in the nation to pay a higher wage because of a small minority of people isn't the solution now is it? Know why? Because just like welfare, there are people out there who will take advantage of it. It's easier to work a starter job for 20 years and make enough to live off of than to apply yourself and better yourself to have more. Do you deny that those folks exist?
This is NOT forcing every employer in the nation to pay a higher wage, it's asking those who pay the least, some of whom are the most profitable companies in the US, to pay their lowest wage employees a reasonable wage - enough to pay basic necessities for one person.
This would reduce the need for food stamps and other low income aid programs, thereby reducing government expenditures and making companies responsible for paying a decent basic wage to their workers.
Walmart has no problem paying it's workers $10.25 in Canada, and the Canadian subsidiary was still a highly profitable company.
