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Where are photos or ID's mentioned in the constitution?
Then why require ID for anything? Why not just have everyone 'attest' that they are who they say they are? By the way, I am actually Warren Buffet. Really, I am. Trust me, I wouldn't lie....
Show ID, prove who you are, or don't vote.....
I can't help but wonder if you have ever registered to vote. If you had, you would realize how stupid you sound. You already have to prove who you are and where you live when you register.
Here in California, if I know a person's name and address and that person is registered to vote, I can walk into the polling place and vote for him. Disenfranchising him. That is fraud. If you think that has never happened, you are living in Fantasyland.
Do you consider it any more subordinating than government having all the information it already has about you? What exactly is it you are so worried about?As for identity theft, your cure is worse than the disease. Putting everyone's DNA into a central government database is not the way to go. That is insane subordination to tyranny.
And you'd lose that bet.Plus, I bet it would take five minutes for a seasoned hacker to fake someone's DNA file.
I can't help but wonder if you have ever registered to vote. If you had, you would realize how stupid you sound. You already have to prove who you are and where you live when you register.
Here in California, if I know a person's name and address and that person is registered to vote, I can walk into the polling place and vote for him. Disenfranchising him. That is fraud. If you think that has never happened, you are living in Fantasyland.
Prove it has happened.
If you voted as your neighbor, and then he showed up to vote, what do you think would happen?
You are the one living in fantasy.
Prove to me this justifies Voter ID.
And why are you so opposed to government having your DNA on file? How could that be harmful to you?
http://www.unionleader.com/article/20120112/NEWS0605/701129979"MANCHESTER - The New Hampshire Attorney General has launched a comprehensive review of state voting procedures, after people obtained ballots of dead voters during the presidential primary on Tuesday."
Ind. election chief found guilty of voter fraud - CBS News
False statement of residence. ID would have prevented it.
Next objection?
Proving his residence at registration would have prevented it.
Notice how he voted in another district? ID would not have prevented that.
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You contradict yourself in bold.
Further, every year I organize several voter registration drives.
ID is NOT required at time of registration.
8 pages now and not a single actual case of voter fraud which could only have been prevented by Voter ID.
I have set the bar really, really low. If I wanted to make it more realistic, I would ask for evidence of elections being swung due to a lack of Voter ID.
All you guys have are imaginary scenarios.
This SCREAMS that you are pushing a solution in search of a problem.
You are being manipulated.
Well, it just so happens the Supreme Court..........that third branch of our government, thinks voter ID laws are OK.
Supreme Court upholds voter ID law - politics - msnbc.com
Just one incident of voter fraud is one too many. There were 113 in Minnesota alone in the 2008 elections. http://www.electionintegritywatch.com/documents/2011-Report-Voter-Fraud-Convictions.pdf
While some ineligible felon voters registered in advance of the election and should have been flagged for challenge, the overwhelming majority who evaded detection used Election Day Registration, which currently has no mechanism to detect or prevent ineligible voters.
Oh and you know dead people in SC can vote, they don't need voter ID..........South Carolina's Attorney General detects voter fraud - WTOC-TV: News, Weather & Sports for Savannah, GA
In a letter dated Thursday, Wilson says the analysis found 953 ballots cast by voters listed as dead. In 71 percent of those cases, ballots were cast between two months and 76 months after the people died. That means they "voted" up to 6 1/3 years after their death.
No fraudulent votes were actually cast. But in nine instances, clerks readily handed over ballots after a would-be voter implied he was the city resident, recently deceased, still listed on the voter checklist, according to a video posted on the Internet.8 pages now and not a single actual case of voter fraud which could only have been prevented by Voter ID.
I have set the bar really, really low. If I wanted to make it more realistic, I would ask for evidence of elections being swung due to a lack of Voter ID.
All you guys have are imaginary scenarios.
This SCREAMS that you are pushing a solution in search of a problem.
You are being manipulated.
It seems you are skipping over my posts........I have given several examples.
8 pages now and not a single actual case of voter fraud which could only have been prevented by Voter ID.
The only attempt made in this topic so far was ONE GUY. And his fraud was a result of faking his voter registration address. So fixing the registration process will fix that problem.
I have set the bar really, really low. If I wanted to make it more realistic, I would ask for evidence of elections being swung due to a lack of Voter ID. One guy does not swing elections, and his fraud was related to voter registration.
All you guys have left are imaginary scenarios.
This SCREAMS that you are pushing a solution in search of a problem.
You are being manipulated.
Just one incident of voter fraud is one too many. There were 113 in Minnesota alone in the 2008 elections. http://www.electionintegritywatch.com/documents/2011-Report-Voter-Fraud-Convictions.pdf
While some ineligible felon voters registered in advance of the election and should have been flagged for challenge, the overwhelming majority who evaded detection used Election Day Registration, which currently has no mechanism to detect or prevent ineligible voters.
8 pages now and not a single actual case of voter fraud which could only have been prevented by Voter ID.
The only attempt made in this topic so far was ONE GUY. And his fraud was a result of faking his voter registration address. So fixing the registration process will fix that problem.
I have set the bar really, really low. If I wanted to make it more realistic, I would ask for evidence of elections being swung due to a lack of Voter ID. One guy does not swing elections, and his fraud was related to voter registration.
All you guys have left are imaginary scenarios.
This SCREAMS that you are pushing a solution in search of a problem.
You are being manipulated.
LOL No research capabilities?
Washington State governors race.
You should read up.
8 pages now and not a single actual case of voter fraud which could only have been prevented by Voter ID.
The only attempt made in this topic so far was ONE GUY. And his fraud was a result of faking his voter registration address. So fixing the registration process will fix that problem.
I have set the bar really, really low. If I wanted to make it more realistic, I would ask for evidence of elections being swung due to a lack of Voter ID. One guy does not swing elections, and his fraud was related to voter registration.
All you guys have left are imaginary scenarios.
This SCREAMS that you are pushing a solution in search of a problem.
You are being manipulated.
LOL No research capabilities?
Washington State governors race.
You should read up.
You should provide evidence.
Here we are, 6 or 7 pages in, and no one has a case of voter fraud in over two centures of voting which cannot be solved by anything other than Voter ID.
If this was an actual problem, you guys would have one right at your fingertips. But you don't.
This SCREAMS of a solution looking for a problem.
You are being manipulated.
Wake up.
I don't know about specific voter ID but I believe a foolproof (biometric) Citizen ID Card would be a good thing. I know of no good reason why such an ID card should not be required.Please provide a single case of voter fraud which can only be fixed by Voter ID and cannot be fixed by proper management of existing voter registration.
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Because we don't need one.
One either is a citizen or is not -- and if one is a citizen why not be willing to prove that as well as proving you are who you say you are?
I already proved my citizenship and residence when I registered to vote.
We've been doing this for well over two centuries without biometric cards. Is that amazing, or what?
And what about this??
AG probes voter fraud in NH after activists get ballots as dead people because they weren't ID'ed | New Hampshire NEWS0605"MANCHESTER - The New Hampshire Attorney General has launched a comprehensive review of state voting procedures, after people obtained ballots of dead voters during the presidential primary on Tuesday."
Who is it that has that EASY button??? I need to borrow it.