Light Bulb Ban?

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    How do people feel about the current repeal of the "light bulb" ban?

    I get it. The govt should not tell us what to buy, but at the same time my firm belief is that the roll of govt sometimes is to steer us in the right direction. Anyone care to sound out? Interesting debate: What is clearly a good thing for the planet and all in our benefit versus the roll of govt to legislate what we can and cannot buy (simplistically)...
     
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    Typical of the unintended consequences of "do gooders", they mandate that we use a product that is inherently more dangerous than the product previously available and in the long run, far worse for the enviornment.

    What kind of thinking mandates that we put lightbulbs loaded with neurotoxins in our homes? What kind of thinking reaches the logical conclusion that putting these bulbs in landfills is a good idea?
     
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    Its fascinating how many people think the government is actually in the business of being genuine about "steering people in the right direction". How do people get to that level of naive? The growth of government is the greatest threat to our republic.......yet people are continually duped beyond the pale.

    Light bulbs...........HOLY MOTHER OF GOD!!
     
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    Umm the government is our republic.
    Study definitions a bit.
    We elected them and keep re-electing most of them.

    Even when they sell out to corporations and special interests.

    The key here is WE.
     
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    There's another tread on this.

    Washington • House Republicans on Tuesday failed to stop the enactment of new energy-saving standards for light bulbs they portrayed as yet another example of big government interfering in people’s lives.

    The GOP bill to overturn the standards set to go into effect next year fell short of the two-thirds majority needed for passage. The vote was 233-193.

    http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/world/52178036-68/bulbs-standards-energy-government.html.csp
     
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    Sorry, but your're wrong on all points. The government isn't mandating that use any product. You can use high efficiently incandescent bulbs, CFLs, LEDs, or nothing at all or stock up on the old bulbs and use them as long as you like. The CFL bulbs are less dangerous than most currently fluorescent bulb. The new bulbs contain less than 1 mg of mercury. And no, they are not far worst for the environment. That's been shot down several times.
     
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    they are not far worst for the environment. That's been shot down several times.


    And where do you come up with this tidbit??

    Florescent bulbs are way more NOT enviro friendly then incandescent,from manufacture right on to disposal.
     
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    103 metric tons of mercury are being dumped in the atmosphere, half of which comes from coal fired electric power plants. Worst case estimates put the CFL contributions at .12% and that's worst case assuming there is no recycling which there is. This assumes bulbs will contain 4mg of mercury. The newer CFLs contain about 1.6mg. which lowers the amount to the point of being negligible. The savings in energy when all homes are using CFS, LEDs, and high efficiency incandescent is enough to power several large cities, NY, Chicargo, and Los Angeles. This will reduce the amount of mercury and other pollutants in the atmosphere.

    CFLs are just one option. High efficiency incandescent bulbs and LEDs also meet the standard.

    http://www.energystar.gov/ia/partners/promotions/change_light/downloads/Fact_Sheet_Mercury.pdf
     
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    I am sure that you wish, and perhaps even believe that cfl bulbs were safer and more environmentally friendly but alas, they are neither.
     

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