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Money isn't speech. Money is access.If you want to "overturn" the 1st Amendment you would be better off just finding a new country to live in.
Anonymous speech isn't protected speech.
Anonymous money is corrupt money.
And playing fast and loose with the First Amendment is unworthy of an elected official.
The disdain in which some of these lefty assholes hold the US Constitution is appalling.
Corporations ain't your enemy neo-socialists. Government corruption is. Why do you think the OWS socialists protest Wall Street? Because they like democrats and they can't protest a friendly administration even if it is corrupt.
Corporations ain't your enemy neo-socialists. Government corruption is. Why do you think the OWS socialists protest Wall Street? Because they like democrats and they can't protest a friendly administration even if it is corrupt.
It is no secret that our political system is corrupted by the influence of corporate money in elections. Pick any issue - financial regulation, energy policy, healthcare reform - and its problems can be traced back to unspoken quid quo pro agreements between politicians and their campaign backers.
Polling on the issue is striking. Despite a fiercely partisan national climate, Americans agree across the board that limits should be set on money in politics. Following the landmark Supreme Court case that removed a bulk of those limits, Citizens United v. FEC (2010), a poll taken by ABC News/Washington Post revealed that eighty percent of Americans opposed the ruling. Seventy-two percent stated that they would support efforts by Congress to reinstate the restrictions that were stripped away by the decision.
Under Citizens United any meaningful legislative workaround would suffer the same fate of the McCain-Feingold Act of 2002, key portions of which were overturned by the Roberts Court. In fact, there now remains only one option for addressing America's campaign finance problem, and a galvanizing one at that: we must amend the Constitution.
Marge Baker: Overturning Citizens United: A Movement Moment
The Repubs are going to cry like little bitch slapped school girls when they see what the dem pacs do with complete anonymity.
Passing the "Patriot Act" didn't teach these fuckwits a damn thing.. They will rue the day they idiotically ran the Citizens United case in front of the Supreme Court.
Repubs have the forsight of fruit flies...
Just sayin...
The big money candidates are more beholden than ever to corporate special interests due to the very long nature of campaigns. How do they have time to do the job they were elected to do?
We need public financing of campaigns.
Citizens cannot afford special interest money campaigns for it is the citizens that get left out. Let citizens vote on this issue.
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Excellent reasoning behind public financing of campaigns:
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The disdain in which some of these lefty assholes hold the US Constitution is appalling.
Really? Which "lefty assholes" in particular gave us The Patriot Act and Citizens United?
I'm starting to think that you just aren't wired right Sparky.
Money isn't speech. Money is access. Anonymous speech isn't protected speech. Anonymous money is corrupt money. And playing fast and loose with the First Amendment is unworthy of an elected official.If you want to "overturn" the 1st Amendment you would be better off just finding a new country to live in.
The unlimited buckets of anonymous money IS the problem and we need to get ALL of it out of our political system.
Haven't you heard? Information is the currency of the 21st century. It's the media that is the recipient of most of the money that corrupts our government. Luceille Ball discovered that with a laugh track the American viewer will laugh at ANYTHING.. Obscure example...not really. Now the true masters of communication have figured out how to convince the American public of ANYTHING. People like Palin and Perry would have had a hard time getting on a local TV station 40 years ago. Now these "clowns" are useful to national media because they can be used to up the anti and keep the dollars rolling in during these election and pre election cycles. It wasn't twenty years ago that these State caucuses and primaries didn't even get mentioned on national TV...oh ya maybe on meet the press or a passing mention on the evening news ...now they get the same attention candidates only got after the nominations. These wannabes and their PACs are spending MILLIONS just to get recognition in places like Iowa which has almost NO significance in the general election. You can whine all you want about the corps and the lobbiests and the congressmen and senators but the conductors of this crazy orchestra are the media the ones that decide what we see and hear...the ones that get most of this pig trough money. That is why the OP of this thread will go nowhere. The media will never relinquish their grasp on the right to decide what information we see. Keep in mind that TV shows are only meant to keep your attention so you will watch the commercials. This clown show reality show is only meant to keep your attention so the media can justify raking in BILLIONS from the candidates and their PACs while they have you glued to the television.
The internet will never be focused enough to compete with the proffesionally scripted message of nationally broadcast media.
Ya...Ya...I know ..it's fun to express yourself...but it means no more in reality that opening up your window and shouting into the night "I'm as mad as hell and I'm not going to take this any longer".
Let's Overturn Citizens United in the name of you and me!
Haven't you heard? Information is the currency of the 21st century. It's the media that is the recipient of most of the money that corrupts our government. Luceille Ball discovered that with a laugh track the American viewer will laugh at ANYTHING.. Obscure example...not really. Now the true masters of communication have figured out how to convince the American public of ANYTHING. People like Palin and Perry would have had a hard time getting on a local TV station 40 years ago. Now these "clowns" are useful to national media because they can be used to up the anti and keep the dollars rolling in during these election and pre election cycles. It wasn't twenty years ago that these State caucuses and primaries didn't even get mentioned on national TV...oh ya maybe on meet the press or a passing mention on the evening news ...now they get the same attention candidates only got after the nominations. These wannabes and their PACs are spending MILLIONS just to get recognition in places like Iowa which has almost NO significance in the general election. You can whine all you want about the corps and the lobbiests and the congressmen and senators but the conductors of this crazy orchestra are the media the ones that decide what we see and hear...the ones that get most of this pig trough money. That is why the OP of this thread will go nowhere. The media will never relinquish their grasp on the right to decide what information we see. Keep in mind that TV shows are only meant to keep your attention so you will watch the commercials. This clown show reality show is only meant to keep your attention so the media can justify raking in BILLIONS from the candidates and their PACs while they have you glued to the television.
The internet will never be focused enough to compete with the proffesionally scripted message of nationally broadcast media.
Ya...Ya...I know ..it's fun to express yourself...but it means no more in reality that opening up your window and shouting into the night "I'm as mad as hell and I'm not going to take this any longer".
Are you drunk?
Haven't you heard? Information is the currency of the 21st century. It's the media that is the recipient of most of the money that corrupts our government. Luceille Ball discovered that with a laugh track the American viewer will laugh at ANYTHING.. Obscure example...not really. Now the true masters of communication have figured out how to convince the American public of ANYTHING. People like Palin and Perry would have had a hard time getting on a local TV station 40 years ago. Now these "clowns" are useful to national media because they can be used to up the anti and keep the dollars rolling in during these election and pre election cycles. It wasn't twenty years ago that these State caucuses and primaries didn't even get mentioned on national TV...oh ya maybe on meet the press or a passing mention on the evening news ...now they get the same attention candidates only got after the nominations. These wannabes and their PACs are spending MILLIONS just to get recognition in places like Iowa which has almost NO significance in the general election. You can whine all you want about the corps and the lobbiests and the congressmen and senators but the conductors of this crazy orchestra are the media the ones that decide what we see and hear...the ones that get most of this pig trough money. That is why the OP of this thread will go nowhere. The media will never relinquish their grasp on the right to decide what information we see. Keep in mind that TV shows are only meant to keep your attention so you will watch the commercials. This clown show reality show is only meant to keep your attention so the media can justify raking in BILLIONS from the candidates and their PACs while they have you glued to the television.
The internet will never be focused enough to compete with the proffesionally scripted message of nationally broadcast media.
Ya...Ya...I know ..it's fun to express yourself...but it means no more in reality that opening up your window and shouting into the night "I'm as mad as hell and I'm not going to take this any longer".
Are you drunk?
No.. I drink alcohol very little. I had one beer last week. A 12 pack lasts me about three months.
So I take it you find fault with my analysis of the true engine of campaign finance. What parts do you find fault with? I suppose you are one of those that believes the media is controlled by "the loony left". You have it backwards...The "loony left" is controlled as is the wacky far right by the media...The all have to come to the media to get their message distributed.
So you dissagree that advertising revenue stream is the reason television exists? So you dissagree that what the media designs to show you is intended to keep you tuned in and interested so you will watch the commercials?
Why don't you take the time make a note of the advertisements during one hour of prime time on most any popular channel. How many of these commercials do you attribute to "the loony left"?
I would equate election cycles to television and other media to christmas for retail sales in America. It isn't the everyday steady revenue stream but it is clearly an extremely lucrative period of time for the media and they are clearly trying to find ways to extend it and make it produce more revenue. I take it you dissagree with the last sentence.
Please enlighten me and the others viewing this thread to a better model of where the campaign money ends up.