Let's Overturn Citizens United in the name of you and me!

The law has been perverted. Just because nine corrupted judges say otherwise means nothing. We know what is right, and what is wrong.

And for that very reason I’ll take my chances with the ‘nine corrupted judges’ rather than what conservatives perceive to be ‘right and wrong.’

Let's Overturn Citizens United in the name of you and me!

Nonsense.

CU would be a non-issue if each voter researched the candidates and issues and made informed decisions. They won’t do that, of course, for various reasons. But the responsibility remains each voter’s nonetheless.

Citizens United is anti American

Oh, brother.
 
The deregulation of campaign finance is anti american. This Citizens United erased any hope for transparency and ethical conduct.
 
Corporations ain't your enemy neo-socialists. Government corruption is. Why do you think the OWS socialists protest Wall Street? Because they like democrats and they can't protest a friendly administration even if it is corrupt.

Yep... gubmint is the DEBIL! Fucking Corps that rape the economy, rape the environment, and rape the American worker? They be GAWDS!

Sell crazy somewhere else, chief.

Platehead calls it rape. The pervert chairman of the House Banking Committee who had oversight responsibility for the strange alliance of government and Fannie Mae looked America in the eye and said Fannie was doing fine while it was on the verge of collapse. I'd say the economy was poked in the ass by democrat politicians and the sissies on the left want us to believe the evil corporations were the culprits.
 
And for that very reason I’ll take my chances with the ‘nine corrupted judges’ rather than what conservatives perceive to be ‘right and wrong.’

Hey idiot, conservatives support the Supreme Court ruling in Citizens United, it is the progressives/liberals who think that the law was perverted. Remember Obama's State of the Union speech?
 
Nah, republicans like having republicans in office more than they like freedom, true story.

So your solution to keep Republicans out of office is to limit what people and groups of people can say?

How exacly is that condusive to freedom? I'd prefer to be free under Republicans than restricted under you.
 
Citizens United cuts off democracy at the throat.

Free speech would do that. Thankfully, we are a Republic and not subject to the will of the mob. We can actually say things the mob doesn't like without restrictions.
 
Corporations ain't your enemy neo-socialists. Government corruption is. Why do you think the OWS socialists protest Wall Street? Because they like democrats and they can't protest a friendly administration even if it is corrupt.


Private industry provides the seed money to corrupt the government. Private industry is also the most reliable source of fraud.

Consequently private industry provides corruption and too many elected officials cave in...

No. People are. They corrupt both private industry and government.
 
It is no secret that our political system is corrupted by the influence of corporate money in elections. Pick any issue - financial regulation, energy policy, healthcare reform - and its problems can be traced back to unspoken quid quo pro agreements between politicians and their campaign backers.

Polling on the issue is striking. Despite a fiercely partisan national climate, Americans agree across the board that limits should be set on money in politics. Following the landmark Supreme Court case that removed a bulk of those limits, Citizens United v. FEC (2010), a poll taken by ABC News/Washington Post revealed that eighty percent of Americans opposed the ruling. Seventy-two percent stated that they would support efforts by Congress to reinstate the restrictions that were stripped away by the decision.

Under Citizens United any meaningful legislative workaround would suffer the same fate of the McCain-Feingold Act of 2002, key portions of which were overturned by the Roberts Court. In fact, there now remains only one option for addressing America's campaign finance problem, and a galvanizing one at that: we must amend the Constitution.


Marge Baker: Overturning Citizens United: A Movement Moment

Why does everyone think CU was about money?

Because, unlike some of us, they didn't bother reading the decision.

That's also why the same people will rant on about how corporations aren't people when the decision doesn't say that nor rely on that for it's holding. It's also why they ignore that the Supreme Court has long said that associations of people have the same rights to free speech as an individual would have.
 
Citizens United is anti American

So being free to speak out against politicians is unAmerican?

You realized they were being fined because they paid for an anti-hillary video. You seriously want the government to be able to shut down anyone who has the audacity to challenge the ruling "elites"?
 
The deregulation of campaign finance is anti american. This Citizens United erased any hope for transparency and ethical conduct.

So because Americans are now allowed to criticize their elected officials 30-60 days before an election, the decision is unAmerican and going to erase any hope for transparency and ethical conduct?

Tell me, what exactly will motivate incumbant politicians to be open with their constituents and act ethically if no one who opposes them can expose their actions to the American people?

It seems to me that limiting free speech the way McCain-Fiengold did produces the exact opposite results. Which isn't really surprising if you think about it. You honestly think that corrupt politicians, who refuse to police themselves, are going to pass a law that is going to prevent their corrupt behavior?

If they had the integrity to pass a law that would prevent their corrupt behavior, we wouldn't need the law to begin with.

No matter what you say, I am going to impose granting politicians the power to shut people they don't like up. I want the people to be able to expose the truth, even if it means some people are allowed to tell lies. Because when you put the truth and lies next to each other the truth will always win.
 
The deregulation of campaign finance is anti american. This Citizens United erased any hope for transparency and ethical conduct.

You only exhibit your ignorance of the case.

Granted, CU was a complicated case, addressing many issues, with some laws or parts of laws upheld, others stuck down.

But the central issue concerned the preemption of free speech in the context of political discourse.

Was it Constitutional for the FEC to disallow the pay-per-view purchase of Hillary: The Movie by citizens at a given point prior to an election?

The Court ruled it was not – that CU had the right to express an opinion about the upcoming election; that its status as a corporation didn’t mitigate that right.

‘Corporate “personhood”’ was a media contrivance, as the right still belonged to the individual, and to infringe upon that right – whether in a corporate configuration or individual – was un-Constitutional.

Was the CU majority motivated by the fact the ruling would benefit conservative/republican political machinations? It’s possible. But the law and reasoning are consistent with other free speech doctrines and the propensity to err on the side of government restriction.
 
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