Guns are "how", we are looking at "why". No one kills another person because they want to make money for the NRA and gun manufacturers.
No, of course not. That's the backwards of what I'm saying; people don't buy guns to make money for the NRA and gunmongers; Gunmongers and the NRA do what they do to make money. And if recent reports of runs on guns are accurate, it's working. As Mencken noted, nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public. Perhaps a better way to state this point would be "the easy and plentiful availability of firearms". That's not the cause of this madness by itself, but it does facilitate it (by contrast when Australia cleaned up its national gun stock, such violence went way down). So it is a contributing factor, since without such easy availability the motivation and opportunity might be present but without the means, you don't have an event.
You're asking about motivations, so I still go back to #2 first, foremost and predominantly. Bob Costas tried to bring this up back on December 2nd and got shouted down for it, yet with Klackamas and Newtown and Webster all taking place after that commentary (and we're not even out of the month yet) he was clearly prescient.
This is a conversation the Gnuts don't want happening. And for that matter the NRA and gunmongers don't want it happening either since it could be bad for business. That's why they tried to reframe that commentary, and so many others, into a "gun control" issue about taking gun-pacifiers away.
That's a rhetorical false flag operation.
But the root cause of that gun fetishism, the underlying dynamic they're trying to sidestep, very much is the examination we need to do.
Here's how one wag summed it up the psychology:
(Celebrating the Prince of Peace in the Land of Guns)... we are a nation founded on genocide and built on the backs of slaves. We slaughtered 600,000 of each other in a civil war. We "tamed the Wild West with a six-shooter," and we rape and beat and kill our women without mercy and at a staggering rate: every three hours a women is murdered in the USA (half the time by an ex or a current); every three minutes a woman is raped in the USA; and every 15 seconds a woman is beaten in the USA.
We belong to an illustrious group of nations that still have the death penalty (North Korea, Saudi Arabia, China, Iran). We think nothing of letting tens of thousands of our own citizens die each year because they are uninsured and thus don't see a doctor until it's too late.
Guns don't kill people by themselves. But the people that use them for that purpose need motivation. Motivations don't happen in a vacuum. They're built up over time.
Dude i don't know how to make this any simpler.
There are dozens of threads on gun control, you want to spout that nonsense then go there. This thread is about the REAL issue; why these kinds of things are happening.
And that's exactly what I did.
Just because some asshole in a cat suit claims I'm talking about gun control (or about Studebakers or pomegranates or Urdu orthography) doesn't change what I actually wrote. As I told Catman, I've never posted anything on gun control at all. If I did you could actually quote it. I challenged Cat-man to document any instance, and he's still coming up with crickets.
Gun control is just not my issue. Try reading what you just quoted, because you seem to have missed the entire thing.
You want to talk about that then fine, you want to ignore the problem and push a idiotic agenda, then go somewhere else.
So -- you want to pose an open question for which only certain answers are "approved"?
What the hell's the point of that? If what you want is an echo chamber, go work in a sound lab. But if you're going to post open questions, then expect open answers.
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