Latest GOP Healthcare Bill Explained

[dblack]

Libertarian individualism is good if you are a nomad hunter who raids the villages for women and goodies.

It's really scary if you're a corporatist authoritarian.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Your inference is clear, dblack. You want a government to let you do whatever you want. That won't happen. Count on that.

 

[dblack]

Your inference is clear, dblack. You want a government to let you do whatever you want. That won't happen. Count on that.

Mod Edit -- Restored entire quote above. dblack

Only to those who read very superficially. I was mocking your confident sense of historical inevitability. It reminds me of the sense of inevitability with which Marxists imbue their worker's paradise.

Anyway, I'm all too aware that ACA isn't socialism. Single-payer is a step in that direction, but still doesn't fill the bill.

And neither are you a socialist. Your view, as near as I've been able to discern, mostly closely aligns with corporatist fascism. But i'm not that interested in debating terms. Let's just say that centralized, state control of society gives you a hard-on and
leave it at that.

 

[Anathema]

Libertarian individualism is good if you are a nomad hunter who raids the villages for women and goodies.

Its also the legitimate, Constitutional policy for healthcare in tbe United Statss.

Unkess you can find medicine, doctor, health or somethibg similar that I've missed in Article I, Section 8 of the US Constjtution.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Anathema is mumbling, so I will leave him to that.

On the other hand, dblack, in violation of the rules, cut my post to get it out of content. Here it is in full: Your inference is clear, dblack. You want a government to let you do whatever you want. That won't happen. Count on that.

You do not understand history, Marxism, socialism, capitalism, corporatism, fascism, or general economic philophy.

Now you admit, finally, ACA is not socialism. Then why did you infer it?

Let's say you simply don't get it.

 

[Anathema]

Now you admit, finally, ACA is not socialism. Then why did you infer it?.

Socialism or not, the ACA is Illegal, Unconstitutional, and Immoral on every kevel possible.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Now you admit, finally, ACA is not socialism. Then why did you infer it?.

Socialism or not, the ACA is Illegal, Unconstitutional, and Immoral on every kevel possible.

A minority, a small minority, think so, yes.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Following rules, following the law, following good manners is -- corporatist authoritarianism.

 

[dblack]

Now you admit, finally, ACA is not socialism. Then why did you infer it?

I didn't. I never have. You know this isn't true (unless, perhaps your memory is failing). I've consistently opposed the notion that ACA is socialism.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Now you admit, finally, ACA is not socialism. Then why did you infer it?

I didn't. I never have. You know this isn't true (unless, perhaps your memory is failing). I've consistently opposed the notion that ACA is socialism.

That is good that you have admitted that ACA is not socialism.

 

[debbiedowner]

30 million Americans thrown off of healthcare. For what? When we can have single payer and everyone can have healthcare.

Millions thrown out of the hospital to die.

Not something any moral or loving human being could ever support.

Healthcare is not a Right. Never has been. Never shoild be. Single payer doesnt get everyone gealthcare. It ensures I,dint get healthcare, because i wont take Governmentcare.

Life is,only of value when it takes care of itself. If/when you can no longer take care of yourself, its time to go vye bye.

You didn't take Medicare, Medicaid, Tricare or VA? Those are the only government health insurance I know of.

 

[Anathema]

A minority, a small minority, think so, yes.

Majority or Minority is irrelevant. The Constitution, in its Original reading, says so.

 

[dblack]

Following rules, following the law, following good manners is -- corporatist authoritarianism.

No. Corporatist authoritarian is more complex. You should maybe read up on it before embarrassing yourself further. Here, I'll throw you a bone:

Authoritarianism - Wikipedia

Corporatism - Wikipedia

 

[JakeStarkey]

Following rules, following the law, following good manners is -- corporatist authoritarianism.

No. Corporatist authoritarian is more complex. You should maybe read up on it before embarrassing yourself further. Here, I'll throw you a bone: Authoritarianism - Wikipedia Corporatism - Wikipedia

Only you look embarrassed here, dblack. If you want to say the program is crafted by democratic fascistic policy, as are the attempts by the GOP to replace it, I would agree.

 

[Anathema]

You didn't take Medicare, Medicaid, Tricare or VA? Those are the only government health insurance I know of.

Nope. I gave akready sent letters to Medicare and Medicaid that I will not engage in their programs. My legal and medical documents also note my unwillingness to take Government paid ir controlled health services. To the point of death.

 

[JakeStarkey]

A minority, a small minority, think so, yes.

Majority ir Minority js irrelevant. The Constitution, in its Original reading, says so.

If you were an authority and authoritative on the Constitution, that would be different.

Your not, so it is not.

 

[Anathema]

Are you mortally ill? A family member did the same thing and put his family through a mess.

Nope. I have a bullet with my initials engraved on it for the point in time thst I need such things.

 

[dblack]

Following rules, following the law, following good manners is -- corporatist authoritarianism.

No. Corporatist authoritarian is more complex. You should maybe read up on it before embarrassing yourself further. Here, I'll throw you a bone: Authoritarianism - Wikipedia Corporatism - Wikipedia

Only you look embarrassed here, dblack. If you want to say the program is crafted by democratic fascistic policy, as are the attempts by the GOP to replace it, I would agree.

You didn't complete your reading assignment, did you?

 

[JakeStarkey]

^^^

 

[Anathema]

If you were an authority and authoritative on the Constitution, that would be different.

Your not, so it is not.

WOW. You nedd a lawyer or Constitutional authority to interpret the basjc Engkish in Article I, Section 8 of, and the Tenth Amendment of the US Constitution? I don't. I took hjgh school English.