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Health care inflation went down. In large part due to some regulations in the ACA that reduced certain problems hospitals were having with people leaving the hospital too early and having to come back.The ACA helped with inflation actually.Their quality is comparable and in some ways superior while their costs are significantly lower.
The US pays way more than any other country so we should have better results here and there like we do. That doesn't mean our system isn't horribly inefficient.
So explain to me why canadians come to the U.S. for critical care?
I've seen first hand how the canadian and european healthcare system works...it doesnt.
yes America is obviously where you want to be if you have real health care problems, but we should be honest and say it does well in spite of huge libsoviet interference because of the surrounding Republican capitalist system. If folks here were shopping with their own money, prices were published, and providers were competing on basis of price and quality the cost would be 20% of what it is now and life expectancy would be 10-20 years longer.
Obviously what were doing now isnt working,in fact what we had before as bad as it was worked better.
Prices are skyrocketing and it's only going to get worse.
Prove it.
We're going to see a 20 to 50% increase next year and thats a fact.
85% of the ten million newly insured are subsidized,how in the world can you think that that isnt going to cause a huge spike in premium costs?
Health care inflation went down. In large part due to some regulations in the ACA that reduced certain problems hospitals were having with people leaving the hospital too early and having to come back.The ACA helped with inflation actually.So explain to me why canadians come to the U.S. for critical care?
I've seen first hand how the canadian and european healthcare system works...it doesnt.
yes America is obviously where you want to be if you have real health care problems, but we should be honest and say it does well in spite of huge libsoviet interference because of the surrounding Republican capitalist system. If folks here were shopping with their own money, prices were published, and providers were competing on basis of price and quality the cost would be 20% of what it is now and life expectancy would be 10-20 years longer.
Obviously what were doing now isnt working,in fact what we had before as bad as it was worked better.
Prices are skyrocketing and it's only going to get worse.
Prove it.
We're going to see a 20 to 50% increase next year and thats a fact.
85% of the ten million newly insured are subsidized,how in the world can you think that that isnt going to cause a huge spike in premium costs?
The ACA has been successful, maybe even more successful than many hoped even with Republican obstructionism. It can be a lot better but the insurance lobby still has too much power in DC for that to happen.
Based on the experience of every country with UHC this is not true. So on one hand we have facts and on the other we have your understanding of reality. I will go with the facts.
LOL...Countries using UHC are going broke trying to keep them running.
And the quality of healthcare is suffering because of it.
Their quality is comparable and in some ways superior while their costs are significantly lower.
The US pays way more than any other country so we should have better results here and there like we do. That doesn't mean our system isn't horribly inefficient.
So explain to me why canadians come to the U.S. for critical care?
I've seen first hand how the canadian and european healthcare system works...it doesnt.
The US spends a lot more than Canada per person and the US has a lot more people than Canada. There are also Americans that go to Canada or other nations for care. There are many in the US that simply go without.
Your understanding of the issue is clearly limited. The US has very good high end care. We spend way more money than other nations to get it but at the same time we fail to produce results for everyone. This leads to a healthcare system that produces worse results overall for the population while at the same time costing significantly more per person.
IF you have a certain type of cancer you may or may not be better off in the US depending on your ability to pay for that care.
BTW in some nations with UHC there are actually better markets set up for choosing care options. So if you actually care about market economics UHC may be the better option.
Not everyone is going to get Cadillac care,thats just the way it is.
And to deny those who could afford it so others can get care is bullshit.
I pay out the ass for my medical insurance because I want the best available healthcare because I've had cancer and I expect it's going to come back.
What right do you or anyone else have to drive the cost of my insurance out of my reach because some lazy asshole refuses to get a job?
No thanks...let em go to a clinic and hope for the best.
Health care inflation went down. In large part due to some regulations in the ACA that reduced certain problems hospitals were having with people leaving the hospital too early and having to come back.The ACA helped with inflation actually.yes America is obviously where you want to be if you have real health care problems, but we should be honest and say it does well in spite of huge libsoviet interference because of the surrounding Republican capitalist system. If folks here were shopping with their own money, prices were published, and providers were competing on basis of price and quality the cost would be 20% of what it is now and life expectancy would be 10-20 years longer.
Obviously what were doing now isnt working,in fact what we had before as bad as it was worked better.
Prices are skyrocketing and it's only going to get worse.
Prove it.
We're going to see a 20 to 50% increase next year and thats a fact.
85% of the ten million newly insured are subsidized,how in the world can you think that that isnt going to cause a huge spike in premium costs?
The ACA has been successful, maybe even more successful than many hoped even with Republican obstructionism. It can be a lot better but the insurance lobby still has too much power in DC for that to happen.
Yeah right.....
What kind of medication did they put you on?A lot of people confuse costs shifting or increase in use with inflation. The ACA helped with inflation based on using data analysis to discover an inefficiency in our system and fixed it.
Health care inflation went down. In large part due to some regulations in the ACA that reduced certain problems hospitals were having with people leaving the hospital too early and having to come back.The ACA helped with inflation actually.Obviously what were doing now isnt working,in fact what we had before as bad as it was worked better.
Prices are skyrocketing and it's only going to get worse.
Prove it.
We're going to see a 20 to 50% increase next year and thats a fact.
85% of the ten million newly insured are subsidized,how in the world can you think that that isnt going to cause a huge spike in premium costs?
The ACA has been successful, maybe even more successful than many hoped even with Republican obstructionism. It can be a lot better but the insurance lobby still has too much power in DC for that to happen.
Yeah right.....
A lot of people confuse costs shifting or increase in use with inflation. The ACA helped with inflation based on using data analysis to discover an inefficiency in our system and fixed it.
Health care inflation went down. In large part due to some regulations in the ACA that reduced certain problems hospitals were having with people leaving the hospital too early and having to come back.The ACA helped with inflation actually.
Prove it.
We're going to see a 20 to 50% increase next year and thats a fact.
85% of the ten million newly insured are subsidized,how in the world can you think that that isnt going to cause a huge spike in premium costs?
The ACA has been successful, maybe even more successful than many hoped even with Republican obstructionism. It can be a lot better but the insurance lobby still has too much power in DC for that to happen.
Yeah right.....
A lot of people confuse costs shifting or increase in use with inflation. The ACA helped with inflation based on using data analysis to discover an inefficiency in our system and fixed it.
You guys keep saying it kept down inflation but offer no proof of it.
And how you equate a 20 to 50% increase to keeping down inflation is beyond me.
When 85% of the 10 million are subsidized there is no way in hell my cost did anything but increase.
You people are a bunch of loons....
Health care inflation went down. In large part due to some regulations in the ACA that reduced certain problems hospitals were having with people leaving the hospital too early and having to come back.Prove it.
We're going to see a 20 to 50% increase next year and thats a fact.
85% of the ten million newly insured are subsidized,how in the world can you think that that isnt going to cause a huge spike in premium costs?
The ACA has been successful, maybe even more successful than many hoped even with Republican obstructionism. It can be a lot better but the insurance lobby still has too much power in DC for that to happen.
Yeah right.....
A lot of people confuse costs shifting or increase in use with inflation. The ACA helped with inflation based on using data analysis to discover an inefficiency in our system and fixed it.
You guys keep saying it kept down inflation but offer no proof of it.
And how you equate a 20 to 50% increase to keeping down inflation is beyond me.
When 85% of the 10 million are subsidized there is no way in hell my cost did anything but increase.
You people are a bunch of loons....
Increasing the number of people covered isn't inflation. If you go buy some gas you measure inflation by how much you pay per gallon, not how much you paid to fill your tank.
I am not overly interested in educating you. I am just pointing out where you are wrong factually and logically. If you are too lazy to educate yourself there is nothing I can say that will convince you that I am right.
So more people covered proves that rising costs are keeping inflation under control? You are a fucking moron, and that's not a figure of speech. Your arrogance ain't gonna hide it.Increasing the number of people covered isn't inflation. If you go buy some gas you measure inflation by how much you pay per gallon, not how much you paid to fill your tank.Health care inflation went down. In large part due to some regulations in the ACA that reduced certain problems hospitals were having with people leaving the hospital too early and having to come back.Prove it.
We're going to see a 20 to 50% increase next year and thats a fact.
85% of the ten million newly insured are subsidized,how in the world can you think that that isnt going to cause a huge spike in premium costs?
The ACA has been successful, maybe even more successful than many hoped even with Republican obstructionism. It can be a lot better but the insurance lobby still has too much power in DC for that to happen.
Yeah right.....
A lot of people confuse costs shifting or increase in use with inflation. The ACA helped with inflation based on using data analysis to discover an inefficiency in our system and fixed it.
You guys keep saying it kept down inflation but offer no proof of it.
And how you equate a 20 to 50% increase to keeping down inflation is beyond me.
When 85% of the 10 million are subsidized there is no way in hell my cost did anything but increase.
You people are a bunch of loons....
I am not overly interested in educating you. I am just pointing out where you are wrong factually and logically. If you are too lazy to educate yourself there is nothing I can say that will convince you that I am right.
So more people covered proves that rising costs are keeping inflation under control? You are a fucking moron, and that's not a figure of speech. Your arrogance ain't gonna hide it.Increasing the number of people covered isn't inflation. If you go buy some gas you measure inflation by how much you pay per gallon, not how much you paid to fill your tank.Health care inflation went down. In large part due to some regulations in the ACA that reduced certain problems hospitals were having with people leaving the hospital too early and having to come back.
The ACA has been successful, maybe even more successful than many hoped even with Republican obstructionism. It can be a lot better but the insurance lobby still has too much power in DC for that to happen.
Yeah right.....
A lot of people confuse costs shifting or increase in use with inflation. The ACA helped with inflation based on using data analysis to discover an inefficiency in our system and fixed it.
You guys keep saying it kept down inflation but offer no proof of it.
And how you equate a 20 to 50% increase to keeping down inflation is beyond me.
When 85% of the 10 million are subsidized there is no way in hell my cost did anything but increase.
You people are a bunch of loons....
I am not overly interested in educating you. I am just pointing out where you are wrong factually and logically. If you are too lazy to educate yourself there is nothing I can say that will convince you that I am right.
If you refuse to pop your head out of your socialist ass, that's your problem. "Shifting costs" is a lame attempt to obfuscate the fact that somebody is forced to pay for somebody else. The ACA is "keeping costs down" just like government backed loans is keeping college tuition rates down.So more people covered proves that rising costs are keeping inflation under control? You are a fucking moron, and that's not a figure of speech. Your arrogance ain't gonna hide it.Increasing the number of people covered isn't inflation. If you go buy some gas you measure inflation by how much you pay per gallon, not how much you paid to fill your tank.Yeah right.....
A lot of people confuse costs shifting or increase in use with inflation. The ACA helped with inflation based on using data analysis to discover an inefficiency in our system and fixed it.
You guys keep saying it kept down inflation but offer no proof of it.
And how you equate a 20 to 50% increase to keeping down inflation is beyond me.
When 85% of the 10 million are subsidized there is no way in hell my cost did anything but increase.
You people are a bunch of loons....
I am not overly interested in educating you. I am just pointing out where you are wrong factually and logically. If you are too lazy to educate yourself there is nothing I can say that will convince you that I am right.
More people covered is more people covered by insurance. That is different than health care inflation which is a measure of what the delivery of health care services cost.
There is a difference between shifting costs and buying more than inflation. This is just a fact. You can call me any number of names but the fact remains the same. If you don't understand these facts you will continue to say things that make you look really stupid.
If you refuse to educate yourself that is your problem.
If you refuse to pop your head out of your socialist ass, that's your problem. "Shifting costs" is a lame attempt to obfuscate the fact that somebody is forced to pay for somebody else. The ACA is "keeping costs down" just like government backed loans is keeping college tuition rates down.So more people covered proves that rising costs are keeping inflation under control? You are a fucking moron, and that's not a figure of speech. Your arrogance ain't gonna hide it.Increasing the number of people covered isn't inflation. If you go buy some gas you measure inflation by how much you pay per gallon, not how much you paid to fill your tank.A lot of people confuse costs shifting or increase in use with inflation. The ACA helped with inflation based on using data analysis to discover an inefficiency in our system and fixed it.
You guys keep saying it kept down inflation but offer no proof of it.
And how you equate a 20 to 50% increase to keeping down inflation is beyond me.
When 85% of the 10 million are subsidized there is no way in hell my cost did anything but increase.
You people are a bunch of loons....
I am not overly interested in educating you. I am just pointing out where you are wrong factually and logically. If you are too lazy to educate yourself there is nothing I can say that will convince you that I am right.
More people covered is more people covered by insurance. That is different than health care inflation which is a measure of what the delivery of health care services cost.
There is a difference between shifting costs and buying more than inflation. This is just a fact. You can call me any number of names but the fact remains the same. If you don't understand these facts you will continue to say things that make you look really stupid.
If you refuse to educate yourself that is your problem.
If non payers are getting services then the payers are going to foot the bill. That's called an increase in the real world.
If you refuse to pop your head out of your socialist ass, that's your problem. "Shifting costs" is a lame attempt to obfuscate the fact that somebody is forced to pay for somebody else. The ACA is "keeping costs down" just like government backed loans is keeping college tuition rates down.So more people covered proves that rising costs are keeping inflation under control? You are a fucking moron, and that's not a figure of speech. Your arrogance ain't gonna hide it.Increasing the number of people covered isn't inflation. If you go buy some gas you measure inflation by how much you pay per gallon, not how much you paid to fill your tank.You guys keep saying it kept down inflation but offer no proof of it.
And how you equate a 20 to 50% increase to keeping down inflation is beyond me.
When 85% of the 10 million are subsidized there is no way in hell my cost did anything but increase.
You people are a bunch of loons....
I am not overly interested in educating you. I am just pointing out where you are wrong factually and logically. If you are too lazy to educate yourself there is nothing I can say that will convince you that I am right.
More people covered is more people covered by insurance. That is different than health care inflation which is a measure of what the delivery of health care services cost.
There is a difference between shifting costs and buying more than inflation. This is just a fact. You can call me any number of names but the fact remains the same. If you don't understand these facts you will continue to say things that make you look really stupid.
If you refuse to educate yourself that is your problem.
If non payers are getting services then the payers are going to foot the bill. That's called an increase in the real world.
No ACA is keeping costs down by reducing expenses associated with needing to check people back into hospitals.
Shifting costs is called shifting costs in the real world. There isn't any attempt to "obfuscate" the issue, let alone a lame one.
The LPR is low due to demographics, but with the UE rate so low the Right has nothing else to use for their propaganda.This is reflected by the Labor Force Participation Rate. The current rate has not been this low since 1977.
The Right claimed that every year since ACA passed and it has yet to happen. You need to come up with some new lies.We're going to see a 20 to 50% increase next year and thats a fact.
The Right claimed that every year since ACA passed and it has yet to happen. You need to come up with some new lies.We're going to see a 20 to 50% increase next year and thats a fact.
If you refuse to pop your head out of your socialist ass, that's your problem. "Shifting costs" is a lame attempt to obfuscate the fact that somebody is forced to pay for somebody else. The ACA is "keeping costs down" just like government backed loans is keeping college tuition rates down.So more people covered proves that rising costs are keeping inflation under control? You are a fucking moron, and that's not a figure of speech. Your arrogance ain't gonna hide it.Increasing the number of people covered isn't inflation. If you go buy some gas you measure inflation by how much you pay per gallon, not how much you paid to fill your tank.
I am not overly interested in educating you. I am just pointing out where you are wrong factually and logically. If you are too lazy to educate yourself there is nothing I can say that will convince you that I am right.
More people covered is more people covered by insurance. That is different than health care inflation which is a measure of what the delivery of health care services cost.
There is a difference between shifting costs and buying more than inflation. This is just a fact. You can call me any number of names but the fact remains the same. If you don't understand these facts you will continue to say things that make you look really stupid.
If you refuse to educate yourself that is your problem.
If non payers are getting services then the payers are going to foot the bill. That's called an increase in the real world.
No ACA is keeping costs down by reducing expenses associated with needing to check people back into hospitals.
Shifting costs is called shifting costs in the real world. There isn't any attempt to "obfuscate" the issue, let alone a lame one.
So keeping people in the hospital longer cost less?
And just how many people need to be readmitted? Give me some numbers.
The Right claimed that every year since ACA passed and it has yet to happen. You need to come up with some new lies.We're going to see a 20 to 50% increase next year and thats a fact.
So all these people are lying?
If you refuse to pop your head out of your socialist ass, that's your problem. "Shifting costs" is a lame attempt to obfuscate the fact that somebody is forced to pay for somebody else. The ACA is "keeping costs down" just like government backed loans is keeping college tuition rates down.So more people covered proves that rising costs are keeping inflation under control? You are a fucking moron, and that's not a figure of speech. Your arrogance ain't gonna hide it.
More people covered is more people covered by insurance. That is different than health care inflation which is a measure of what the delivery of health care services cost.
There is a difference between shifting costs and buying more than inflation. This is just a fact. You can call me any number of names but the fact remains the same. If you don't understand these facts you will continue to say things that make you look really stupid.
If you refuse to educate yourself that is your problem.
If non payers are getting services then the payers are going to foot the bill. That's called an increase in the real world.
No ACA is keeping costs down by reducing expenses associated with needing to check people back into hospitals.
Shifting costs is called shifting costs in the real world. There isn't any attempt to "obfuscate" the issue, let alone a lame one.
So keeping people in the hospital longer cost less?
And just how many people need to be readmitted? Give me some numbers.
The problem was that they were kicking people out of hospitals before they were ready. By keeping them there longer on their initial visit they were less likely to have to come back which was a major expense and inefficiency. So less time in the hospital on average.
The ACA made this change because they looked at the data and it worked.
