Kurdistan begins selling natural gas directly to Turkey

[kirkuki]

Turkey pulls no punches in its claim to be a regional leader and the pursuit of what it apparently deems its consequent right to act with impunity. It is now reportedly ready to anger the Iraqi government by buying gas directly from the semi-autonomous Kurdish region, an official from the Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG) claimed on July 3.

The KRG could begin selling natural gas directly to Turkey within two years, its energy minister said, a move likely to anger the central government and further strain Baghdad's ties with Ankara, reports Reuters.

The Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG) and Baghdad have rowed for years over issues including late payments for crude, the legality of the regional government's oil deals and disputed territory. Baghdad accuses the Kurds of smuggling their oil abroad, mainly to Iran, and wrecking the central budget by denying it revenue.

"Even if there's no consensus with Baghdad, we will continue to sell natural gas and oil to Turkey," KRG Minister of Natural Resources Ashti Hawrami told the Caspian Gas Forum in Istanbul. "We plan to sell 10bn cubic metres of natural gas to Turkey, and later Europe in the long-term," he said, adding that sales were expected to begin within 18 months to two years.

Most Kurdish oil is still pumped into the national pipeline system, but there is one pipeline carrying about 60,000 barrels per day that already feeds directly from Kurdistan's Tawke oilfield into the main pipeline to the Turkish port of Ceyhan. Ankara's latest move to bypass Baghdad on gas could further strain ties between Iraq and Turkey, which have suffered under the latter's strategy to forge solid political and trade ties with southern Kurds in recent years.

Iraq is currently the second-biggest market after Germany for Turkish exports, amounting to more than $8bn last year. But according to Turkish Economy Minister Zafer Caglayan, about 70% of those exports get no further than the very north of the country.

Turkish officials have been locked in a war of words with Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki since December, when he ordered the arrest of Sunni Vice President Tareq al-Hashemi, based on allegations that he ran death squads. Turkey, the majority of whose people are Sunnis, has accused Shi'ite Maliki of stirring ethnic tension. The Iraqi prime minister has accused Turkey of meddling in its affairs.

Turkey's increasing economic power - and the increasing push for status by the ruling AKP - has led the country into numerous scrapes in the volatile region as Ankara pushes its credentials as a regional leader. The latest high-profile spat is of course with Syria, where Turkey has openly encouraged opposition forces, whilst diplomatic ties with Iran have been bumpy, despite Turkey's refusal to fall into line with international sanctions against Tehran, and Israeli relations remain tense.

Source: bne

 

[Mr. H.]

Why would this be a black eye on the Turks? Seems the Kurds are to blame for any wrongdoing.
Maybe Iraq should just blow up that pipeline and be done with it.

 

[kirkuki]

what are you drinking !!?? the world needs more fuel and Kurdistan has 45 billion barrels of oil as well as 112 trillion cbf of gas , and turkey cant do much in terms of embargo bcoz the whole world benefits from it as well , the same with iran trying to close down that island which 90% of worlds oil usage goes thru it .

 

[Moonglow]

maybe the Kurds need their own country.

 

[Mr. H.]

what are you drinking !!?? the world needs more fuel and Kurdistan has 45 billion barrels of oil as well as 112 trillion cbf of gas , and turkey cant do much in terms of embargo bcoz the whole world benefits from it as well , the same with iran trying to close down that island which 90% of worlds oil usage goes thru it .

Then maybe the Kurds should share their oil and gas revenues with the rest of Iraq.

 

[kirkuki]

how about iraq needs to share its oil with us ? according to the constitution iraq must provide 140,000 of fuel to kurdistan but they only send 15,000 !!! so now we should go bomb iraq according to your logic ? lol please cut me the BS will ya !

 

[kirkuki]

iraq is bound to give kurdistan 17% of oil share after kurdistan sells its oil via iraqi pipeline , but they only send us 11% a year which is a violation of the constitution , and yes indeed we are working on building a country for us and the hell with chaotic iraq , which is a french and British project since 1923 anyways we kurds are not iraqis and we never will bow to this ..

if shithole countries with population of 500,000 can have a state so does the 30 million kurds with their rich lands .

 

[Moonglow]

iraq is bound to give kurdistan 17% of oil share after kurdistan sells its oil via iraqi pipeline , but they only send us 11% a year which is a violation of the constitution , and yes indeed we are working on building a country for us and the hell with chaotic iraq , which is a french and British project since 1923 anyways we kurds are not iraqis and we never will bow to this ..

if shithole countries with population of 500,000 can have a state so does the 30 million kurds with their rich lands .

Go for it!

 

[Mr. H.]

how about iraq needs to share its oil with us ? according to the constitution iraq must provide 140,000 of fuel to kurdistan but they only send 15,000 !!! so now we should go bomb iraq according to your logic ? lol please cut me the BS will ya !

If Kurds have 45 billion barrels of oil as you state, then why are you concerned about Iraq sharing its oil? I didn't say bomb Iraq, I said send them some money from your oil and gas sales.

 

[ekrem]

If Kurds have 45 billion barrels of oil as you state, then why are you concerned about Iraq sharing its oil? I didn't say bomb Iraq, I said send them some money from your oil and gas sales.

Central government in Baghdad gives KRG a 17% share (that was calculated a while back according to pop.statistics) of all Oil-sales within Iraq.
That's basically the dispute here, because Baghdad wants the oil-revenues in the KRG flow into the Central government budget from where it is then redistributed according to agreements.

 

[ekrem]

If Kurds have 45 billion barrels of oil as you state, then why are you concerned about Iraq sharing its oil? I didn't say bomb Iraq, I said send them some money from your oil and gas sales.

They might have Oil, but they have no upstream-technology.
And with a shovel you can't bring up Oil.

 

[ekrem]

if shithole countries with population of 500,000 can have a state so does the 30 million kurds with their rich lands .

No, you can't.
You need a sponsor like the Jews had, and the USA left Iraq without sponsoring you. They dropped you like the hot potato.

Now Turkey will suck-up the Oil from your "rich lands".

 

[ekrem]

what are you drinking !!?? the world needs more fuel and Kurdistan has 45 billion barrels of oil as well as 112 trillion cbf of gas , and turkey cant do much in terms of embargo bcoz the whole world benefits from it as well , the same with iran trying to close down that island which 90% of worlds oil usage goes thru it .

Distribution of energy West of Caspian Sea is monopolized by Russia.
What the world needs is secondary. There are realities in this world and the world has no access to the plenty energy-sources there.

So, let's look at your reality:
- landlocked entity within Iraq

What are the options?
- export Oil through Basra in South (under Baghdad's control which you try to break-out of)
- export Oil through Iran (USA won't allow)
- export Oil through Syria (currently in war, and soon to be regime-changed with SNC which has headquarters in Turkey as its biggest backer).

Turkey will monopolize your Oil, just like Russia does with Kazakhstan.
We'll buy cheap Oil, consume some of it and sell the rest at higher price to International markets.
And if you don't behave, we'll shut down the Pipelines.

 

[kirkuki]

If Kurds have 45 billion barrels of oil as you state, then why are you concerned about Iraq sharing its oil? I didn't say bomb Iraq, I said send them some money from your oil and gas sales.

They might have Oil, but they have no upstream-technology.
And with a shovel you can't bring up Oil.

Roj Bash Kurdistan • View topic - Kurdistan Oil Development

 

[kirkuki]

if shithole countries with population of 500,000 can have a state so does the 30 million kurds with their rich lands .

No, you can't.
You need a sponsor like the Jews had, and the USA left Iraq without sponsoring you. They dropped you like the hot potato.

Now Turkey will suck-up the Oil from your "rich lands".

yes we can , we have already established our country just no proclaiming it yet (let the pipelines be built and the rest of the 19 Apaches arrive , turkey is not UN , pull your head out of the sand , the ottoman era is over ..

, turkey is buying our oil , we are not giving her oil for free what are you mentality challenged ? read the article again or get someone to read it out for you , and yes we already have a state (government, parliament, border, army, president, PM, flag, language, schools and Unis in kurdish, 3 international airports etc since 1991) , it just needs proclaiming , i know it makes you sleepless at night , but it is what it is , and according to your alikes , after US withdrawal in june 2011 , iran and turkey were going to invade south Kurdistan ! what are they waiting for !!??

 

[Mr. H.]

That's all outsourced shit.

 

[kirkuki]

what are you drinking !!?? the world needs more fuel and Kurdistan has 45 billion barrels of oil as well as 112 trillion cbf of gas , and turkey cant do much in terms of embargo bcoz the whole world benefits from it as well , the same with iran trying to close down that island which 90% of worlds oil usage goes thru it .

Distribution of energy West of Caspian Sea is monopolized by Russia.
What the world needs is secondary. There are realities in this world and the world has no access to the plenty energy-sources there.

So, let's look at your reality:
- landlocked entity within Iraq

What are the options?
- export Oil through Basra in South (under Baghdad's control which you try to break-out of)
- export Oil through Iran (USA won't allow)
- export Oil through Syria (currently in war, and soon to be regime-changed with SNC which has headquarters in Turkey as its biggest backer).

Turkey will monopolize your Oil, just like Russia does with Kazakhstan.
We'll buy cheap Oil, consume some of it and sell the rest at higher price to International markets.
And if you don't behave, we'll shut down the Pipelines.

congrats on the job of been PM of turkey , i call those "wishful thinings"

we have ExxonMobil in kurdistan and during Kurdistan president recent visit to US , Rex said "kurdistan is our partner" and they are in kurdistan for 25 years , all turkey is to get a small amount of oil for cheaper price for been used to export our oil and gas , it is in your dreams what your talking about bcoz simply the world will not let a racist state like turkey with your kind of mentality to have control over another countries oil and gas , so yeah keep dreaming let me know when you stop

 

[kirkuki]

and we also have the option of building a pipeline thru the sunni region to Jordan who are our good ally in the region as well , if turkey changes its mind down the track that is if US allows turkey to make such a dumb step which i doubt she will dare to .

 

[kirkuki]

If Kurds have 45 billion barrels of oil as you state, then why are you concerned about Iraq sharing its oil? I didn't say bomb Iraq, I said send them some money from your oil and gas sales.

Central government in Baghdad gives KRG a 17% share (that was calculated a while back according to pop.statistics) of all Oil-sales within Iraq.
That's basically the dispute here, because Baghdad wants the oil-revenues in the KRG flow into the Central government budget from where it is then redistributed according to agreements.

you are neither an iraqi nor kurdistani so you dont know jack , iraq only sends 11% of the 17% and cuts the budget of Peshemrga which so far is $4 billion , and they cut our share of fossil fuel which is 140,000 a day but they only supply with with less than a quarter of that , once the pipelines are connected via turkey , kurdistan will have total control over its oil and gas and then based on that , kurdistan can seek not only independence but an entity for kurds in turkey and iran within their ancestral regions , the era of turkeys killing kurds is over , our oil and gas will make turks beg they did not exist , just wait and see ..

we already have those Apaches operating in kurdistan , we have Abraham M1s that were left behind to KRG as a trophy for Peshemrga's role in helping US forces (not a single US soldier was killed in kurdistan 2003-2011) ... the only thing missing is some F16s , well there is Israel that will be willing to sell them to us once we proclaim our state when those pipelines are finished ,there was actually a high Israel army commander in Kurdistan a months ago and words are they are selling us some of them and there already are kurdish pilots getting trained up in Tel aviv as we speak , and ekrem , stop hallucinating mate , the oil and gas is supplied to the "world" so putting an embargo on it is the same as Iran doing it in Hormuz island in the gulf sea

 

[kirkuki]