Book of Jeremiah
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Yes Joseph was really the man of the Bible. One could trust him completely.
King Cyrus, I wonder if this was the garden of eden as you know Cyrus , Darius and the Pesians were great gardeners.
http://www.heritageinstitute.com/zoroastrianism/garden/
The word paradise comes from the Old Iranian word for exceptional gardens, pairi-daeza, which in later years was shortened to parideiza and then to paridiz. Pairi means all around, thoroughly and ultimate, while the precise meaning of daeza is uncertain. However, as a compound word, pairidaeza came to mean a celestial garden, a heavenly paradise on earth. The description of the Garden of Eden as paradise is derived from the Persian Avestan pairi-daeza, and some would say, was located in the northern Iranian Zagros mountains (see Gardens of Ancient Tabriz below).
In Persian, chahar means four and bagh means garden. Chahar bagh or the four gardens was the formal garden style used by Cyrus the Great (c. 600 to 576 - August 530 BCE) for his palace gardens at Pasargadae, the capital of Pars (Persia) during his reign. The garden at Pasargadae is the earliest known example of the chahar bagh, a design that became the core design for subsequent formal Iranian gardens including the gardens of India's Mughal rulers. The gardens of the Taj Mahal in Agra, India are based on Cyrus' Chahar Bagh design and are so named even today (see photographs below).
There is some speculation in the literature, that the four quadrants of the garden - the four rectangles or squares within a rectangle or square - represented the four quadrants of the Persian empire. The squares were created by walkways and straight white limestone lined water channels that connected square basins or pools placed at regular intervals. These water-courses or aqueducts formed the principle and secondary axes of the quadripartite layout and are the earliest known record of gravity-fed water rills cascading into regularly spaced basins arranged in a geometric system. The channels and basins served both a practical irrigation function and an aesthetic function. Besides, they also modified the climate of the immediate surroundings.
Before the flood paradise was moved to below the earth, Penelope, which is why Jesus told thief on the cross today you will be with me in paradise. You see, Penelope, when Jesus died he went down to hell and the grave to take back the keys which Satan had obtained through Adam's sin in the garden. It was at the cross that Satan was stripped of his powers. When Jesus told the thief he would be with him that that day in paradise he spoke the truth because as He had not yet ascended to heaven - heaven was not yet opened to those waiting in the grave - paradise was a place of waiting until heaven was opened through Jesus - paradise was within view of hell - we know this because of the rich man who begged Father Abraham to permit Lazarus to come bring him a drop of water for his tongue. Abraham told him that could not happen. There was a wide gulf between the two places. Then the rich man who was suffering great torments in hell said he wanted someone to go warn his brothers who were on the earth to not come to that place of torment - hell - because they were still alive - they could repent - but Abraham said if they would not believe the living neither would they believe the dead. When Jesus went to and took the keys to hell and the grave - he emptied paradise - when he ascended to heaven - heaven was opened and the grave was emptied. Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and the prophets are in heaven right this minute.
In the name of God, Buddha, Allah, and the great Mikael Akerfeldt, what in the Cosmos are you talking about?! Satan "losing his powers at the cross"? Jesus going to Hell aka the Harrowing of Christ is not in the Bible at all, I always viewed it as a Catholic myth, like Purgatory, derived from interpretations based on scripture, but not actually derived from scripture itself- kind of like how everybody calls inaccurately calls Satan "Lucifer".
What is all this about Satan taking keys obtained through Adam's sin and then Jesus pulling a Dante's Inferno to get the keys back?
Speak, Jeremiah.
Give me a few minutes. I will be happy to, Ashtara.