Killing C.I.A. Informants, China Crippled U.S. Spying Operations

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I read this a few months ago and I'm not sure I posted it here. Do yourself a favor if you really care about your country, read the article. It's longer than most, but worth the effort to appreciate just how much danger they pose. I posted it in military as I don't know where the best place for it is, and I firmly believe the Cold War against China is here already.

Now, what was the source of all of this? Imagine the fear the CIA felt when this happened? They still don't know, it put America back at least a decade, this is the most serious of business. Did they get a mole inside the CIA (I suspect this is the case, in which case, they could still be active)? Hack the system?

This is impacting the FBI and CIA, and the alt-left and socialists who admire China and want to screw America over don't seem to give a damn about the lives of these spies. They couldn't care less about Chinas threat to America as long as they get a few bucks in the pocket.

Killing C.I.A. Informants, China Crippled U.S. Spying Operations

Killing C.I.A. Informants, China Crippled U.S. Spying Operations

Current and former American officials described the intelligence breach as one of the worst in decades. It set off a scramble in Washington’s intelligence and law enforcement agencies to contain the fallout, but investigators were bitterly divided over the cause. Some were convinced that a mole within the C.I.A. had betrayed the United States. Others believed that the Chinese had hacked the covert system the C.I.A. used to communicate with its foreign sources. Years later, that debate remains unresolved.

But there was no disagreement about the damage. From the final weeks of 2010 through the end of 2012, according to former American officials, the Chinese killed at least a dozen of the C.I.A.’s sources. According to three of the officials, one was shot in front of his colleagues in the courtyard of a government building — a message to others who might have been working for the C.I.A.

Still others were put in jail. All told, the Chinese killed or imprisoned 18 to 20 of the C.I.A.’s sources in China, according to two former senior American officials, effectively unraveling a network that had taken years to build.
 
This sort of thing used to happen all the time during the Cold War. We'd plant a mole in the KGB, discover their spies and execute them, and they'd do the same to us. I wouldn't be surprised if the same thing were still going on today between us and Russia.
 
This sort of thing used to happen all the time during the Cold War. We'd plant a mole in the KGB, discover their spies and execute them, and they'd do the same to us. I wouldn't be surprised if the same thing were still going on today between us and Russia.


Yes, but those were identified. The Russians had very high sources in the CIA and FBI, they are since dead or in prison. A few snuck back to their Russian Masters. This particular case is not fully solved, that's worrisome in itself.

Consider how closed off China is, it's very difficult to obtain valuable sources there. This is a serious breach, which is troublesome.

I think the war against China has to be ramped up in the form of a propaganda campaign. This will require global assistance from politicians who have to look beyond their terms and consider the long term prospects of Western liberty.
 
I read this a few months ago and I'm not sure I posted it here. Do yourself a favor if you really care about your country, read the article. It's longer than most, but worth the effort to appreciate just how much danger they pose. I posted it in military as I don't know where the best place for it is, and I firmly believe the Cold War against China is here already.

Now, what was the source of all of this? Imagine the fear the CIA felt when this happened? They still don't know, it put America back at least a decade, this is the most serious of business. Did they get a mole inside the CIA (I suspect this is the case, in which case, they could still be active)? Hack the system?

This is impacting the FBI and CIA, and the alt-left and socialists who admire China and want to screw America over don't seem to give a damn about the lives of these spies. They couldn't care less about Chinas threat to America as long as they get a few bucks in the pocket.

Killing C.I.A. Informants, China Crippled U.S. Spying Operations

Killing C.I.A. Informants, China Crippled U.S. Spying Operations

Current and former American officials described the intelligence breach as one of the worst in decades. It set off a scramble in Washington’s intelligence and law enforcement agencies to contain the fallout, but investigators were bitterly divided over the cause. Some were convinced that a mole within the C.I.A. had betrayed the United States. Others believed that the Chinese had hacked the covert system the C.I.A. used to communicate with its foreign sources. Years later, that debate remains unresolved.

But there was no disagreement about the damage. From the final weeks of 2010 through the end of 2012, according to former American officials, the Chinese killed at least a dozen of the C.I.A.’s sources. According to three of the officials, one was shot in front of his colleagues in the courtyard of a government building — a message to others who might have been working for the C.I.A.

Still others were put in jail. All told, the Chinese killed or imprisoned 18 to 20 of the C.I.A.’s sources in China, according to two former senior American officials, effectively unraveling a network that had taken years to build.

Yes, it's more or less here, but different.

The countries will trade together, but fight together in proxy wars, once China's reach has extended far enough.

The US is alienating its allies, and China is gaining new allies by the day.
 
FBI intelligence operative Robert Hanssen spent years selling the names of Russian informants to the KGB. He was sentenced to several life terms on 2001 but his family collects a freaking pension as if he retired honorably.
 

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