Just the facts.

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  1. mdjgirl7
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    OK this is what I am looking for how about in this thread we have no bickering not calling anyone any names. Give me just the facts of what each candidate stands for in these topics

    1 Health Care

    2 Tax

    3 Military

    5 Abortion

    6 Gay marriage

    7 illegal immigrants

    8 Natural alternative to oil.

    9 Social Security

    10 education

    11 the bailout

    Please be able to back your post up with a link but don't just post links tell us what you come up with.

    Just the facts.
     
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    you may want to post those one at a time. otherwise we get novel-length posts.
     
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    1 Health Care
    Obama offers a government health insurance agency that people can buy into. No specifics have been given about what the premiums might cost, but Obama promises they will be lower than what we pay now. Offers small businesses an opportunity to write-off healthcare expenses for employees as tax write offs. This is not something currently in the law and would help a business achieve a lower net income to fall into a smaller tax bracket. Obama belives health insurance companies will have to lower their premiums to compete with the government health insurance.

    McCain offers a tax credit of $2500 a year for an individual and $5000 a year for a family for healthcare. Also plans to re-write the laws allowing health insurance companies to offer their services nationally instead of a state-by-state basis.

    While both plans offer to lessen how expensive healthcare is for us right now, neither plan addresses the people without health insurance who aren't employed.

    2 Tax
    Obama will cut taxes for all income brackets up to $200,000 a year for individuals and $250,000 a year for families. All incomes above those brackets will see their taxes return to what they were under Bill Clinton.

    Offers to eliminate all capital gains taxes for small businesses. All capital gains taxes will return to 20% for net income above $200,000 a year for individuals and $250,000 a year for families.

    3 Military
    Obama wants to withdraw our troops as soon as possible from Iraq and increase the amount of troops in Afghanistan.

    McCain opposes any withdrawl of US troops from Iraq and wants to increase the amount of troops in Afghanistan.

    There is currently a deal between the US and Iraq that needs to be approved by Iraqi parliament that would require US troops to leave Iraq by 2011. Obama has said he would support this bill, John McCain has said he would not.

    5 Abortion
    Obama is pro-choice for abortions for all trimesters.
    McCain is pro-life and thinks Roe v. Wade should be overturned.

    6 Gay marriage
    Obama does not support gay marriage, but supports homosexual couples having the same rights as heterosexual married couples. This would be most likely in the form of civil unions.

    John McCain is against gay marriage and civil unions.

    7 illegal immigrants
    I don't know any of their stances on this.

    8 Natural alternative to oil.
    Both officially support clean coal, wind, solar, natural gas, biofuels.

    9 Social Security
    John McCain has flip-flopped on whether or not he would have people invest part of their social security in the stock market. He was originally against it, then he was for it, now he's against it.

    Barack Obama and Joe Biden: The Change We Need | Seniors | Social Security

    10 education
    Barack Obama and Joe Biden: The Change We Need | Education
    JohnMcCain.com - McCain-Palin 2008

    11 the bailout
    Both voted for it. John McCain wants to spend $300 billion extra to buy up all of the bad mortgages. Obama opposes this and feels the bailout bill gives the treasury this authority already under the $700 billion we've already spent.
     
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    Here are Bob Barr's positions.

    1 Health Care
    Bob Barr believes that, "Controls which unduly restrict competition within the health care industry, and that limit access to insurance across state lines, should be ended." Barr believes that less regulation and more free market principles will help consumers find more affordable health care.

    2 Tax
    The first step to tax reform is to reign in government spending, which a recent study by the National Taxpayers Union shows that Bob Barr will cut by $200 billion per year. Bob Barr will lower taxes by getting rid of some such as the estate tax, the capital gains tax, etc. Would work to repeal the 16th Amendment so that the government may no longer tax American's for the work that they do.

    3 Military
    Bob Barr would begin withdrawing troops from Iraq as soon as possible, and cut back on the economic support we give to the Iraqi government. He would stop policing the world and engaging in nation building, and would bring all troops from across the globe back to America.

    5 Abortion
    The power to regulate abortion is not given to the federal government in the Constitution, therefore it is not in their power to make it legal or illegal across the nation. Bob Barr would repeal Roe v. Wade as it is un-Constitutional, and leave the decision up to the individual states.

    6 Gay marriage
    Nowhere in the Constitution does it say that the federal government has the right to regulate marriage, therefore, as per the 10th Amendment, it should be left to the discretion of the individual states whether they allow this.

    7 illegal immigrants
    Bob Barr would end government benefits and services for illegal immigrants. Also, by bringing troops home from around the world there would be more soldiers available to protect our borders from those who seek to enter illegally. Barr would also seek to end birthright citizenship.

    8 Natural alternative to oil.
    Barr believes that Congress should allow us to use more of our domestic resources, while removing government regulation and subsidies from the oil market. Let the free market reign.

    9 Social Security
    Create Private Accounts for Social Security, Says Bob Barr — Bob Barr 2008

    10 education
    Parents should have authority on their children's schooling, without government interference. Bob Barr will take control of education from the federal government and put it back in the hands of the state and local governments by eliminating the Dept. of Education, and ending federal regulations on schooling.

    11 the bailout
    Bob Barr opposed the bailouts, and would look into prosecuting those who committed fraud and led us into this crisis.
     
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    John McCain wants to spend 300 billion FROM the 700 billion for that NOT add 300 billion. You may want to check your facts.
     
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    That's good to know.
     
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    why don't you check your facts, you idiot? he said this was ADDITIONAL bailout money.
     
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    No he did not, I checked that out the day it was brought up his quote was to use 300 of the 700 already approved. You made the claim back it up. Provide us the quote where he said he wanted another 300 billion.
     
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    your source for this?
    because what i have heard is that $300 billion is PART of the $700 Billion
     
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    John McCain proposes $300 billion US housing market bail-out - Telegraph

    http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5iZlX-oPUxq61CtVONwtfxDUMRPDw

    http://www.politicalaffairs.net/article/articleview/7581/

    DavidS said...

    Shall we all hold our breath waiting for him to admit he was wrong?
     
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