Just Another Crackpot

[BluesLegend]

I remember longer winters. As a teen, it was tradition to go ice skating on Thanksgiving morning, and there were no inside rinks in those days. Now we get random large dumps and cold snaps between warmings. This is our 3rd 'green' Christmas. Here it is January in SE Michigan and we have had under 2" snow, and that only in the last week. I've had my snow thrower out once and that was for snow I could have broomed just as easy. I'm not complaining exactly, but meager snowfall means a dry spring and a dryer hotter summer. Earth NEEDS that snow.Any changes in your neck of the woods?

Well 3 winters out of 4 BILLION winters that's a trend?

No, 3 'green' Christmases, but several winters starting late and leaving early.

Its normal, I grew up in Michigan shoveling snow as a kid decades ago and winters always varied, some long some short. Just relax.

 

[bullwinkle]

The last people on earth we should listen to are leftwing idiots. Those are the morons who decided to 'save the trees' by banning paper grocery bags. Decades later when the environment is polluted with like 2 trillion of their damn plastic grocery bags now they are advocating for paper grocery bags again and banning plastic ones.

Blues, there are many examples of 'trail and error' attempts to improve our days here on this planet, and lots of them have been errors. But the biggest error of all is the abject denial so prevalent today.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Why do Democrats choose such ignorant people to lord over them?

“Millennials and people, you know, Gen Z and all these folks that will come after us are looking up and we’re like: ‘The world is gonna end in 12 years if we don’t address climate change and your biggest issue is how are we gonna pay for it?'" Ocasio-Cortez said.

I heard precisely the same shit, at the first Earth Day in Washington DC, April 1970. A half-century ago.

Ocasio-Cortez calls climate change ‘our World War II,’ warns the world will end in 12 years

Predictions from 1970 -

“We have about five more years at the outside to do something.”
• Kenneth Watt, ecologist

“Civilization will end within 15 or 30 years unless immediate action is taken against problems facing mankind.”
• George Wald, Harvard Biologist

“We are in an environmental crisis which threatens the survival of this nation, and of the world as a suitable place of human habitation.”
• Barry Commoner, Washington University biologist

“Man must stop pollution and conserve his resources, not merely to enhance existence but to save the race from intolerable deterioration and possible extinction.”
• New York Times editorial, the day after the first Earth Day

“Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supplies we make. The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next ten years.”
• Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist

“By…[1975] some experts feel that food shortages will have escalated the present level of world hunger and starvation into famines of unbelievable proportions. Other experts, more optimistic, think the ultimate food-population collision will not occur until the decade of the 1980s.”
• Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist

“It is already too late to avoid mass starvation.”
• Denis Hayes, chief organizer for Earth Day

“Demographers agree almost unanimously on the following grim timetable: by 1975 widespread famines will begin in India; these will spread by 1990 to include all of India, Pakistan, China and the Near East, Africa. By the year 2000, or conceivably sooner, South and Central America will exist under famine conditions….By the year 2000, thirty years from now, the entire world, with the exception of Western Europe, North America, and Australia, will be in famine.”
• Peter Gunter, professor, North Texas State University

“Scientists have solid experimental and theoretical evidence to support…the following predictions: In a decade, urban dwellers will have to wear gas masks to survive air pollution…by 1985 air pollution will have reduced the amount of sunlight reaching earth by one half….”
• Life Magazine, January 1970

“At the present rate of nitrogen buildup, it’s only a matter of time before light will be filtered out of the atmosphere and none of our land will be usable.”
• Kenneth Watt, Ecologist

“Air pollution…is certainly going to take hundreds of thousands of lives in the next few years alone.”
• Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist

“We are prospecting for the very last of our resources and using up the nonrenewable things many times faster than we are finding new ones.”
• Martin Litton, Sierra Club director

“By the year 2000, if present trends continue, we will be using up crude oil at such a rate…that there won’t be any more crude oil. You’ll drive up to the pump and say, `Fill ‘er up, buddy,’ and he’ll say, `I am very sorry, there isn’t any.'”
• Kenneth Watt, Ecologist

“Dr. S. Dillon Ripley, secretary of the Smithsonian Institute, believes that in 25 years, somewhere between 75 and 80 percent of all the species of living animals will be extinct.”
• Sen. Gaylord Nelson

“The world has been chilling sharply for about twenty years. If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder in the year 2000. This is about twice what it would take to put us into an ice age.”
• Kenneth Watt, Ecologist

Seems back in the 70's people listened to the experts and we did something about pollution.

I guess you forgot actions taken back when the sciences took notice, like when Lake Erie (actually the Cayahuga (sp?) River) caught fire at Cleveland.
Billy, haven't you seen quizzical changes since you were a pup? I remember longer winters. As a teen, it was tradition to go ice skating on Thanksgiving morning, and there were no inside rinks in those days. Now we get random large dumps and cold snaps between warmings. This is our 3rd 'green' Christmas. Here it is January in SE Michigan and we have had under 2" snow, and that only in the last week. I've had my snow thrower out once and that was for snow I could have broomed just as easy. I'm not complaining exactly, but meager snowfall means a dry spring and a dryer hotter summer. Earth NEEDS that snow.
Any changes in your neck of the woods?

Not at all, that was my point. People took action and things got better...then they bitch when the predictions did not come true.

It is like the person that goes to the doctor and is told to quit drinking or they will be dead in a year...a year later after they quit drinking they bitch about the doctor being wrong...

 

[Harpy Eagle]

0 -20 degrees this week. A foot of snow a few days ago, snow is still on the ground.

There have been natural cyclical climate changes affecting regional weather everywhere.

Volcanic eruptions wreak far more havoc than has any anthropogenic activity.

There has always been a natural cyclical climate change, and now that cycle has changed.

If you take all the data points for climate change (CO2 levels, human population, solar activity, volcanic activity..etc) and do a multivariate analysis, volcanic activity is the least likely to be having an effect.

 

[BluesLegend]

The last people on earth we should listen to are leftwing idiots. Those are the morons who decided to 'save the trees' by banning paper grocery bags. Decades later when the environment is polluted with like 2 trillion of their damn plastic grocery bags now they are advocating for paper grocery bags again and banning plastic ones.

Blues, there are many examples of 'trail and error' attempts to improve our days here on this planet, and lots of them have been errors. But the biggest error of all is the abject denial so prevalent today.

Show me the science because the faux manipulated so called science is laughable. And corrupted by government grant money that demands the results to fit the narrative.

 

[Weatherman2020]

I didn't ask for scientific and technology.

aaaaAAAAaaaand the goal posts move yet again......

~S~

You Leftards are like nailing jello to the wall.

 

[Crepitus]

Why do Democrats choose such ignorant people to lord over them?

“Millennials and people, you know, Gen Z and all these folks that will come after us are looking up and we’re like: ‘The world is gonna end in 12 years if we don’t address climate change and your biggest issue is how are we gonna pay for it?'" Ocasio-Cortez said.

I heard precisely the same shit, at the first Earth Day in Washington DC, April 1970. A half-century ago.

Ocasio-Cortez calls climate change ‘our World War II,’ warns the world will end in 12 years

Predictions from 1970 -

“We have about five more years at the outside to do something.”
• Kenneth Watt, ecologist

“Civilization will end within 15 or 30 years unless immediate action is taken against problems facing mankind.”
• George Wald, Harvard Biologist

“We are in an environmental crisis which threatens the survival of this nation, and of the world as a suitable place of human habitation.”
• Barry Commoner, Washington University biologist

“Man must stop pollution and conserve his resources, not merely to enhance existence but to save the race from intolerable deterioration and possible extinction.”
• New York Times editorial, the day after the first Earth Day

“Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supplies we make. The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next ten years.”
• Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist

“By…[1975] some experts feel that food shortages will have escalated the present level of world hunger and starvation into famines of unbelievable proportions. Other experts, more optimistic, think the ultimate food-population collision will not occur until the decade of the 1980s.”
• Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist

“It is already too late to avoid mass starvation.”
• Denis Hayes, chief organizer for Earth Day

“Demographers agree almost unanimously on the following grim timetable: by 1975 widespread famines will begin in India; these will spread by 1990 to include all of India, Pakistan, China and the Near East, Africa. By the year 2000, or conceivably sooner, South and Central America will exist under famine conditions….By the year 2000, thirty years from now, the entire world, with the exception of Western Europe, North America, and Australia, will be in famine.”
• Peter Gunter, professor, North Texas State University

“Scientists have solid experimental and theoretical evidence to support…the following predictions: In a decade, urban dwellers will have to wear gas masks to survive air pollution…by 1985 air pollution will have reduced the amount of sunlight reaching earth by one half….”
• Life Magazine, January 1970

“At the present rate of nitrogen buildup, it’s only a matter of time before light will be filtered out of the atmosphere and none of our land will be usable.”
• Kenneth Watt, Ecologist

“Air pollution…is certainly going to take hundreds of thousands of lives in the next few years alone.”
• Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist

“We are prospecting for the very last of our resources and using up the nonrenewable things many times faster than we are finding new ones.”
• Martin Litton, Sierra Club director

“By the year 2000, if present trends continue, we will be using up crude oil at such a rate…that there won’t be any more crude oil. You’ll drive up to the pump and say, `Fill ‘er up, buddy,’ and he’ll say, `I am very sorry, there isn’t any.'”
• Kenneth Watt, Ecologist

“Dr. S. Dillon Ripley, secretary of the Smithsonian Institute, believes that in 25 years, somewhere between 75 and 80 percent of all the species of living animals will be extinct.”
• Sen. Gaylord Nelson

“The world has been chilling sharply for about twenty years. If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder in the year 2000. This is about twice what it would take to put us into an ice age.”
• Kenneth Watt, Ecologist

LMAO! @ "Lord over them".

Just because you kiddos let tRump do it to you doesn't mean that how we handle it.

Stop projecting.

 

[edward37]

Why do Democrats choose such ignorant people to lord over them?

“Millennials and people, you know, Gen Z and all these folks that will come after us are looking up and we’re like: ‘The world is gonna end in 12 years if we don’t address climate change and your biggest issue is how are we gonna pay for it?'" Ocasio-Cortez said.

I heard precisely the same shit, at the first Earth Day in Washington DC, April 1970. A half-century ago.

Ocasio-Cortez calls climate change ‘our World War II,’ warns the world will end in 12 years

Predictions from 1970 -

“We have about five more years at the outside to do something.”
• Kenneth Watt, ecologist

“Civilization will end within 15 or 30 years unless immediate action is taken against problems facing mankind.”
• George Wald, Harvard Biologist

“We are in an environmental crisis which threatens the survival of this nation, and of the world as a suitable place of human habitation.”
• Barry Commoner, Washington University biologist

“Man must stop pollution and conserve his resources, not merely to enhance existence but to save the race from intolerable deterioration and possible extinction.”
• New York Times editorial, the day after the first Earth Day

“Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supplies we make. The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next ten years.”
• Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist

“By…[1975] some experts feel that food shortages will have escalated the present level of world hunger and starvation into famines of unbelievable proportions. Other experts, more optimistic, think the ultimate food-population collision will not occur until the decade of the 1980s.”
• Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist

“It is already too late to avoid mass starvation.”
• Denis Hayes, chief organizer for Earth Day

“Demographers agree almost unanimously on the following grim timetable: by 1975 widespread famines will begin in India; these will spread by 1990 to include all of India, Pakistan, China and the Near East, Africa. By the year 2000, or conceivably sooner, South and Central America will exist under famine conditions….By the year 2000, thirty years from now, the entire world, with the exception of Western Europe, North America, and Australia, will be in famine.”
• Peter Gunter, professor, North Texas State University

“Scientists have solid experimental and theoretical evidence to support…the following predictions: In a decade, urban dwellers will have to wear gas masks to survive air pollution…by 1985 air pollution will have reduced the amount of sunlight reaching earth by one half….”
• Life Magazine, January 1970

“At the present rate of nitrogen buildup, it’s only a matter of time before light will be filtered out of the atmosphere and none of our land will be usable.”
• Kenneth Watt, Ecologist

“Air pollution…is certainly going to take hundreds of thousands of lives in the next few years alone.”
• Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist

“We are prospecting for the very last of our resources and using up the nonrenewable things many times faster than we are finding new ones.”
• Martin Litton, Sierra Club director

“By the year 2000, if present trends continue, we will be using up crude oil at such a rate…that there won’t be any more crude oil. You’ll drive up to the pump and say, `Fill ‘er up, buddy,’ and he’ll say, `I am very sorry, there isn’t any.'”
• Kenneth Watt, Ecologist

“Dr. S. Dillon Ripley, secretary of the Smithsonian Institute, believes that in 25 years, somewhere between 75 and 80 percent of all the species of living animals will be extinct.”
• Sen. Gaylord Nelson

“The world has been chilling sharply for about twenty years. If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder in the year 2000. This is about twice what it would take to put us into an ice age.”
• Kenneth Watt, Ecologist

Seems back in the 70's people listened to the experts and we did something about pollution.

I guess you forgot actions taken back when the sciences took notice, like when Lake Erie (actually the Cayahuga (sp?) River) caught fire at Cleveland.
Billy, haven't you seen quizzical changes since you were a pup? I remember longer winters. As a teen, it was tradition to go ice skating on Thanksgiving morning, and there were no inside rinks in those days. Now we get random large dumps and cold snaps between warmings. This is our 3rd 'green' Christmas. Here it is January in SE Michigan and we have had under 2" snow, and that only in the last week. I've had my snow thrower out once and that was for snow I could have broomed just as easy. I'm not complaining exactly, but meager snowfall means a dry spring and a dryer hotter summer. Earth NEEDS that snow.
Any changes in your neck of the woods?

Not at all, that was my point. People took action and things got better...then they bitch when the predictions did not come true.

It is like the person that goes to the doctor and is told to quit drinking or they will be dead in a year...a year later after they quit drinking they bitch about the doctor being wrong...

The person goes to the doctor to find out his test results The doc says I have bad news and worse news Guy says whats the bad news ? Doc say you've got 24 hours to live The guy tells the doc what could be worse news? Doc says I tried calling you yesterday but there was no answer

 

[Weatherman2020]

0 -20 degrees this week. A foot of snow a few days ago, snow is still on the ground.

There have been natural cyclical climate changes affecting regional weather everywhere.

Volcanic eruptions wreak far more havoc than has any anthropogenic activity.

There has always been a natural cyclical climate change, and now that cycle has changed.

If you take all the data points for climate change (CO2 levels, human population, solar activity, volcanic activity..etc) and do a multivariate analysis, volcanic activity is the least likely to be having an effect.

What exactly has the manmade effect been?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

0 -20 degrees this week. A foot of snow a few days ago, snow is still on the ground.

There have been natural cyclical climate changes affecting regional weather everywhere.

Volcanic eruptions wreak far more havoc than has any anthropogenic activity.

There has always been a natural cyclical climate change, and now that cycle has changed.

If you take all the data points for climate change (CO2 levels, human population, solar activity, volcanic activity..etc) and do a multivariate analysis, volcanic activity is the least likely to be having an effect.

What exactly has the manmade effect been?

Human Impacts on the Environment | Kent State

Maps Show Humans’ Growing Impact on the Planet

20 ways humans are negatively impacting the environment

 

[Weatherman2020]

0 -20 degrees this week. A foot of snow a few days ago, snow is still on the ground.

There have been natural cyclical climate changes affecting regional weather everywhere.

Volcanic eruptions wreak far more havoc than has any anthropogenic activity.

There has always been a natural cyclical climate change, and now that cycle has changed.

If you take all the data points for climate change (CO2 levels, human population, solar activity, volcanic activity..etc) and do a multivariate analysis, volcanic activity is the least likely to be having an effect.

What exactly has the manmade effect been?

Human Impacts on the Environment | Kent State

Maps Show Humans’ Growing Impact on the Planet

20 ways humans are negatively impacting the environment

I’m not talking about some Chinese straw some leftist sticks into the nose of a turtle, I’m talking about scientific data.

You know. Islands capsizing, rising oceans burying islands, thermometers bursting....

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Why do Democrats choose such ignorant people to lord over them?

“Millennials and people, you know, Gen Z and all these folks that will come after us are looking up and we’re like: ‘The world is gonna end in 12 years if we don’t address climate change and your biggest issue is how are we gonna pay for it?'" Ocasio-Cortez said.

I heard precisely the same shit, at the first Earth Day in Washington DC, April 1970. A half-century ago.

Ocasio-Cortez calls climate change ‘our World War II,’ warns the world will end in 12 years

Predictions from 1970 -

“We have about five more years at the outside to do something.”
• Kenneth Watt, ecologist

“Civilization will end within 15 or 30 years unless immediate action is taken against problems facing mankind.”
• George Wald, Harvard Biologist

“We are in an environmental crisis which threatens the survival of this nation, and of the world as a suitable place of human habitation.”
• Barry Commoner, Washington University biologist

“Man must stop pollution and conserve his resources, not merely to enhance existence but to save the race from intolerable deterioration and possible extinction.”
• New York Times editorial, the day after the first Earth Day

“Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supplies we make. The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next ten years.”
• Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist

“By…[1975] some experts feel that food shortages will have escalated the present level of world hunger and starvation into famines of unbelievable proportions. Other experts, more optimistic, think the ultimate food-population collision will not occur until the decade of the 1980s.”
• Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist

“It is already too late to avoid mass starvation.”
• Denis Hayes, chief organizer for Earth Day

“Demographers agree almost unanimously on the following grim timetable: by 1975 widespread famines will begin in India; these will spread by 1990 to include all of India, Pakistan, China and the Near East, Africa. By the year 2000, or conceivably sooner, South and Central America will exist under famine conditions….By the year 2000, thirty years from now, the entire world, with the exception of Western Europe, North America, and Australia, will be in famine.”
• Peter Gunter, professor, North Texas State University

“Scientists have solid experimental and theoretical evidence to support…the following predictions: In a decade, urban dwellers will have to wear gas masks to survive air pollution…by 1985 air pollution will have reduced the amount of sunlight reaching earth by one half….”
• Life Magazine, January 1970

“At the present rate of nitrogen buildup, it’s only a matter of time before light will be filtered out of the atmosphere and none of our land will be usable.”
• Kenneth Watt, Ecologist

“Air pollution…is certainly going to take hundreds of thousands of lives in the next few years alone.”
• Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist

“We are prospecting for the very last of our resources and using up the nonrenewable things many times faster than we are finding new ones.”
• Martin Litton, Sierra Club director

“By the year 2000, if present trends continue, we will be using up crude oil at such a rate…that there won’t be any more crude oil. You’ll drive up to the pump and say, `Fill ‘er up, buddy,’ and he’ll say, `I am very sorry, there isn’t any.'”
• Kenneth Watt, Ecologist

“Dr. S. Dillon Ripley, secretary of the Smithsonian Institute, believes that in 25 years, somewhere between 75 and 80 percent of all the species of living animals will be extinct.”
• Sen. Gaylord Nelson

“The world has been chilling sharply for about twenty years. If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder in the year 2000. This is about twice what it would take to put us into an ice age.”
• Kenneth Watt, Ecologist

Seems back in the 70's people listened to the experts and we did something about pollution.

Remember this guy....?

~S~

Who could forget the Italian guy pretending to be an indian?

 

[Erinwltr]

Why do Democrats choose such ignorant people to lord over them?

“Millennials and people, you know, Gen Z and all these folks that will come after us are looking up and we’re like: ‘The world is gonna end in 12 years if we don’t address climate change and your biggest issue is how are we gonna pay for it?'" Ocasio-Cortez said.

I heard precisely the same shit, at the first Earth Day in Washington DC, April 1970. A half-century ago.

Ocasio-Cortez calls climate change ‘our World War II,’ warns the world will end in 12 years

Predictions from 1970 -

“We have about five more years at the outside to do something.”
• Kenneth Watt, ecologist

“Civilization will end within 15 or 30 years unless immediate action is taken against problems facing mankind.”
• George Wald, Harvard Biologist

“We are in an environmental crisis which threatens the survival of this nation, and of the world as a suitable place of human habitation.”
• Barry Commoner, Washington University biologist

“Man must stop pollution and conserve his resources, not merely to enhance existence but to save the race from intolerable deterioration and possible extinction.”
• New York Times editorial, the day after the first Earth Day

“Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supplies we make. The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next ten years.”
• Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist

“By…[1975] some experts feel that food shortages will have escalated the present level of world hunger and starvation into famines of unbelievable proportions. Other experts, more optimistic, think the ultimate food-population collision will not occur until the decade of the 1980s.”
• Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist

“It is already too late to avoid mass starvation.”
• Denis Hayes, chief organizer for Earth Day

“Demographers agree almost unanimously on the following grim timetable: by 1975 widespread famines will begin in India; these will spread by 1990 to include all of India, Pakistan, China and the Near East, Africa. By the year 2000, or conceivably sooner, South and Central America will exist under famine conditions….By the year 2000, thirty years from now, the entire world, with the exception of Western Europe, North America, and Australia, will be in famine.”
• Peter Gunter, professor, North Texas State University

“Scientists have solid experimental and theoretical evidence to support…the following predictions: In a decade, urban dwellers will have to wear gas masks to survive air pollution…by 1985 air pollution will have reduced the amount of sunlight reaching earth by one half….”
• Life Magazine, January 1970

“At the present rate of nitrogen buildup, it’s only a matter of time before light will be filtered out of the atmosphere and none of our land will be usable.”
• Kenneth Watt, Ecologist

“Air pollution…is certainly going to take hundreds of thousands of lives in the next few years alone.”
• Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist

“We are prospecting for the very last of our resources and using up the nonrenewable things many times faster than we are finding new ones.”
• Martin Litton, Sierra Club director

“By the year 2000, if present trends continue, we will be using up crude oil at such a rate…that there won’t be any more crude oil. You’ll drive up to the pump and say, `Fill ‘er up, buddy,’ and he’ll say, `I am very sorry, there isn’t any.'”
• Kenneth Watt, Ecologist

“Dr. S. Dillon Ripley, secretary of the Smithsonian Institute, believes that in 25 years, somewhere between 75 and 80 percent of all the species of living animals will be extinct.”
• Sen. Gaylord Nelson

“The world has been chilling sharply for about twenty years. If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder in the year 2000. This is about twice what it would take to put us into an ice age.”
• Kenneth Watt, Ecologist

Seems back in the 70's people listened to the experts and we did something about pollution.

I guess you forgot actions taken back when the sciences took notice, like when Lake Erie (actually the Cayahuga (sp?) River) caught fire at Cleveland.
Billy, haven't you seen quizzical changes since you were a pup? I remember longer winters. As a teen, it was tradition to go ice skating on Thanksgiving morning, and there were no inside rinks in those days. Now we get random large dumps and cold snaps between warmings. This is our 3rd 'green' Christmas. Here it is January in SE Michigan and we have had under 2" snow, and that only in the last week. I've had my snow thrower out once and that was for snow I could have broomed just as easy. I'm not complaining exactly, but meager snowfall means a dry spring and a dryer hotter summer. Earth NEEDS that snow.
Any changes in your neck of the woods?

Billy would rather call folks ugly, snarky nasty names than talk reasonably about any topic other than protecting his Orange Baby Jebuz Savior DJT.

 

[Weatherman2020]

0 -20 degrees this week. A foot of snow a few days ago, snow is still on the ground.

There have been natural cyclical climate changes affecting regional weather everywhere.

Volcanic eruptions wreak far more havoc than has any anthropogenic activity.

There has always been a natural cyclical climate change, and now that cycle has changed.

If you take all the data points for climate change (CO2 levels, human population, solar activity, volcanic activity..etc) and do a multivariate analysis, volcanic activity is the least likely to be having an effect.

How’s the climate cycle changed?
Data, not leftist BS.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Why do Democrats choose such ignorant people to lord over them?

“Millennials and people, you know, Gen Z and all these folks that will come after us are looking up and we’re like: ‘The world is gonna end in 12 years if we don’t address climate change and your biggest issue is how are we gonna pay for it?'" Ocasio-Cortez said.

I heard precisely the same shit, at the first Earth Day in Washington DC, April 1970. A half-century ago.

Ocasio-Cortez calls climate change ‘our World War II,’ warns the world will end in 12 years

Predictions from 1970 -

“We have about five more years at the outside to do something.”
• Kenneth Watt, ecologist

“Civilization will end within 15 or 30 years unless immediate action is taken against problems facing mankind.”
• George Wald, Harvard Biologist

“We are in an environmental crisis which threatens the survival of this nation, and of the world as a suitable place of human habitation.”
• Barry Commoner, Washington University biologist

“Man must stop pollution and conserve his resources, not merely to enhance existence but to save the race from intolerable deterioration and possible extinction.”
• New York Times editorial, the day after the first Earth Day

“Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supplies we make. The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next ten years.”
• Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist

“By…[1975] some experts feel that food shortages will have escalated the present level of world hunger and starvation into famines of unbelievable proportions. Other experts, more optimistic, think the ultimate food-population collision will not occur until the decade of the 1980s.”
• Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist

“It is already too late to avoid mass starvation.”
• Denis Hayes, chief organizer for Earth Day

“Demographers agree almost unanimously on the following grim timetable: by 1975 widespread famines will begin in India; these will spread by 1990 to include all of India, Pakistan, China and the Near East, Africa. By the year 2000, or conceivably sooner, South and Central America will exist under famine conditions….By the year 2000, thirty years from now, the entire world, with the exception of Western Europe, North America, and Australia, will be in famine.”
• Peter Gunter, professor, North Texas State University

“Scientists have solid experimental and theoretical evidence to support…the following predictions: In a decade, urban dwellers will have to wear gas masks to survive air pollution…by 1985 air pollution will have reduced the amount of sunlight reaching earth by one half….”
• Life Magazine, January 1970

“At the present rate of nitrogen buildup, it’s only a matter of time before light will be filtered out of the atmosphere and none of our land will be usable.”
• Kenneth Watt, Ecologist

“Air pollution…is certainly going to take hundreds of thousands of lives in the next few years alone.”
• Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist

“We are prospecting for the very last of our resources and using up the nonrenewable things many times faster than we are finding new ones.”
• Martin Litton, Sierra Club director

“By the year 2000, if present trends continue, we will be using up crude oil at such a rate…that there won’t be any more crude oil. You’ll drive up to the pump and say, `Fill ‘er up, buddy,’ and he’ll say, `I am very sorry, there isn’t any.'”
• Kenneth Watt, Ecologist

“Dr. S. Dillon Ripley, secretary of the Smithsonian Institute, believes that in 25 years, somewhere between 75 and 80 percent of all the species of living animals will be extinct.”
• Sen. Gaylord Nelson

“The world has been chilling sharply for about twenty years. If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder in the year 2000. This is about twice what it would take to put us into an ice age.”
• Kenneth Watt, Ecologist

Seems back in the 70's people listened to the experts and we did something about pollution.

I guess you forgot actions taken back when the sciences took notice, like when Lake Erie (actually the Cayahuga (sp?) River) caught fire at Cleveland.
Billy, haven't you seen quizzical changes since you were a pup? I remember longer winters. As a teen, it was tradition to go ice skating on Thanksgiving morning, and there were no inside rinks in those days. Now we get random large dumps and cold snaps between warmings. This is our 3rd 'green' Christmas. Here it is January in SE Michigan and we have had under 2" snow, and that only in the last week. I've had my snow thrower out once and that was for snow I could have broomed just as easy. I'm not complaining exactly, but meager snowfall means a dry spring and a dryer hotter summer. Earth NEEDS that snow.
Any changes in your neck of the woods?

Billy would rather call folks ugly, snarky nasty names than talk reasonably about any topic other than protecting his Orange Baby Jebuz Savior DJT.

Shut up ya poopy head. Bullwinkle has a brain.

You, however, do not. You have Limburger dip.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

0 -20 degrees this week. A foot of snow a few days ago, snow is still on the ground.

There have been natural cyclical climate changes affecting regional weather everywhere.

Volcanic eruptions wreak far more havoc than has any anthropogenic activity.

There has always been a natural cyclical climate change, and now that cycle has changed.

If you take all the data points for climate change (CO2 levels, human population, solar activity, volcanic activity..etc) and do a multivariate analysis, volcanic activity is the least likely to be having an effect.

What exactly has the manmade effect been?

Human Impacts on the Environment | Kent State

Maps Show Humans’ Growing Impact on the Planet

20 ways humans are negatively impacting the environment

I’m not talking about some Chinese straw some leftist sticks into the nose of a turtle, I’m talking about scientific data.

You know. Islands capsizing, rising oceans burying islands, thermometers bursting....

None of those things are scientific, though not shocked you think they are.


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[bullwinkle]

Why do Democrats choose such ignorant people to lord over them?

“Millennials and people, you know, Gen Z and all these folks that will come after us are looking up and we’re like: ‘The world is gonna end in 12 years if we don’t address climate change and your biggest issue is how are we gonna pay for it?'" Ocasio-Cortez said.

I heard precisely the same shit, at the first Earth Day in Washington DC, April 1970. A half-century ago.

Ocasio-Cortez calls climate change ‘our World War II,’ warns the world will end in 12 years

Predictions from 1970 -

“We have about five more years at the outside to do something.”
• Kenneth Watt, ecologist

“Civilization will end within 15 or 30 years unless immediate action is taken against problems facing mankind.”
• George Wald, Harvard Biologist

“We are in an environmental crisis which threatens the survival of this nation, and of the world as a suitable place of human habitation.”
• Barry Commoner, Washington University biologist

“Man must stop pollution and conserve his resources, not merely to enhance existence but to save the race from intolerable deterioration and possible extinction.”
• New York Times editorial, the day after the first Earth Day

“Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supplies we make. The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next ten years.”
• Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist

“By…[1975] some experts feel that food shortages will have escalated the present level of world hunger and starvation into famines of unbelievable proportions. Other experts, more optimistic, think the ultimate food-population collision will not occur until the decade of the 1980s.”
• Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist

“It is already too late to avoid mass starvation.”
• Denis Hayes, chief organizer for Earth Day

“Demographers agree almost unanimously on the following grim timetable: by 1975 widespread famines will begin in India; these will spread by 1990 to include all of India, Pakistan, China and the Near East, Africa. By the year 2000, or conceivably sooner, South and Central America will exist under famine conditions….By the year 2000, thirty years from now, the entire world, with the exception of Western Europe, North America, and Australia, will be in famine.”
• Peter Gunter, professor, North Texas State University

“Scientists have solid experimental and theoretical evidence to support…the following predictions: In a decade, urban dwellers will have to wear gas masks to survive air pollution…by 1985 air pollution will have reduced the amount of sunlight reaching earth by one half….”
• Life Magazine, January 1970

“At the present rate of nitrogen buildup, it’s only a matter of time before light will be filtered out of the atmosphere and none of our land will be usable.”
• Kenneth Watt, Ecologist

“Air pollution…is certainly going to take hundreds of thousands of lives in the next few years alone.”
• Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist

“We are prospecting for the very last of our resources and using up the nonrenewable things many times faster than we are finding new ones.”
• Martin Litton, Sierra Club director

“By the year 2000, if present trends continue, we will be using up crude oil at such a rate…that there won’t be any more crude oil. You’ll drive up to the pump and say, `Fill ‘er up, buddy,’ and he’ll say, `I am very sorry, there isn’t any.'”
• Kenneth Watt, Ecologist

“Dr. S. Dillon Ripley, secretary of the Smithsonian Institute, believes that in 25 years, somewhere between 75 and 80 percent of all the species of living animals will be extinct.”
• Sen. Gaylord Nelson

“The world has been chilling sharply for about twenty years. If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder in the year 2000. This is about twice what it would take to put us into an ice age.”
• Kenneth Watt, Ecologist

Seems back in the 70's people listened to the experts and we did something about pollution.

I guess you forgot actions taken back when the sciences took notice, like when Lake Erie (actually the Cayahuga (sp?) River) caught fire at Cleveland.
Billy, haven't you seen quizzical changes since you were a pup? I remember longer winters. As a teen, it was tradition to go ice skating on Thanksgiving morning, and there were no inside rinks in those days. Now we get random large dumps and cold snaps between warmings. This is our 3rd 'green' Christmas. Here it is January in SE Michigan and we have had under 2" snow, and that only in the last week. I've had my snow thrower out once and that was for snow I could have broomed just as easy. I'm not complaining exactly, but meager snowfall means a dry spring and a dryer hotter summer. Earth NEEDS that snow.
Any changes in your neck of the woods?

Billy would rather call folks ugly, snarky nasty names than talk reasonably about any topic other than protecting his Orange Baby Jebuz Savior DJT.

Billy can speak for himself, but I know that isn't true. Like everyone, he tosses out a bumper-sticker hit on occasion, but mostly offers a valid argument. IF one shows civility, he will return in kind! Although I still can't figure why he defends Trump.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

0 -20 degrees this week. A foot of snow a few days ago, snow is still on the ground.

There have been natural cyclical climate changes affecting regional weather everywhere.

Volcanic eruptions wreak far more havoc than has any anthropogenic activity.

There has always been a natural cyclical climate change, and now that cycle has changed.

If you take all the data points for climate change (CO2 levels, human population, solar activity, volcanic activity..etc) and do a multivariate analysis, volcanic activity is the least likely to be having an effect.

How’s the climate cycle changed?
Data, not leftist BS.

Enjoy...

Global Warming Natural Cycle — OSS Foundation

 

[ptbw forever]

Why do Democrats choose such ignorant people to lord over them?

“Millennials and people, you know, Gen Z and all these folks that will come after us are looking up and we’re like: ‘The world is gonna end in 12 years if we don’t address climate change and your biggest issue is how are we gonna pay for it?'" Ocasio-Cortez said.

I heard precisely the same shit, at the first Earth Day in Washington DC, April 1970. A half-century ago.

Ocasio-Cortez calls climate change ‘our World War II,’ warns the world will end in 12 years

Predictions from 1970 -

“We have about five more years at the outside to do something.”
• Kenneth Watt, ecologist

“Civilization will end within 15 or 30 years unless immediate action is taken against problems facing mankind.”
• George Wald, Harvard Biologist

“We are in an environmental crisis which threatens the survival of this nation, and of the world as a suitable place of human habitation.”
• Barry Commoner, Washington University biologist

“Man must stop pollution and conserve his resources, not merely to enhance existence but to save the race from intolerable deterioration and possible extinction.”
• New York Times editorial, the day after the first Earth Day

“Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supplies we make. The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next ten years.”
• Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist

“By…[1975] some experts feel that food shortages will have escalated the present level of world hunger and starvation into famines of unbelievable proportions. Other experts, more optimistic, think the ultimate food-population collision will not occur until the decade of the 1980s.”
• Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist

“It is already too late to avoid mass starvation.”
• Denis Hayes, chief organizer for Earth Day

“Demographers agree almost unanimously on the following grim timetable: by 1975 widespread famines will begin in India; these will spread by 1990 to include all of India, Pakistan, China and the Near East, Africa. By the year 2000, or conceivably sooner, South and Central America will exist under famine conditions….By the year 2000, thirty years from now, the entire world, with the exception of Western Europe, North America, and Australia, will be in famine.”
• Peter Gunter, professor, North Texas State University

“Scientists have solid experimental and theoretical evidence to support…the following predictions: In a decade, urban dwellers will have to wear gas masks to survive air pollution…by 1985 air pollution will have reduced the amount of sunlight reaching earth by one half….”
• Life Magazine, January 1970

“At the present rate of nitrogen buildup, it’s only a matter of time before light will be filtered out of the atmosphere and none of our land will be usable.”
• Kenneth Watt, Ecologist

“Air pollution…is certainly going to take hundreds of thousands of lives in the next few years alone.”
• Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist

“We are prospecting for the very last of our resources and using up the nonrenewable things many times faster than we are finding new ones.”
• Martin Litton, Sierra Club director

“By the year 2000, if present trends continue, we will be using up crude oil at such a rate…that there won’t be any more crude oil. You’ll drive up to the pump and say, `Fill ‘er up, buddy,’ and he’ll say, `I am very sorry, there isn’t any.'”
• Kenneth Watt, Ecologist

“Dr. S. Dillon Ripley, secretary of the Smithsonian Institute, believes that in 25 years, somewhere between 75 and 80 percent of all the species of living animals will be extinct.”
• Sen. Gaylord Nelson

“The world has been chilling sharply for about twenty years. If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder in the year 2000. This is about twice what it would take to put us into an ice age.”
• Kenneth Watt, Ecologist

Seems back in the 70's people listened to the experts and we did something about pollution.

So we prevented inevitable catastrophe by making a few environmental considerations?

Ehrlich certainly didn’t think so....

LOL

What a maroon.

 

[Erinwltr]

Why do Democrats choose such ignorant people to lord over them?

“Millennials and people, you know, Gen Z and all these folks that will come after us are looking up and we’re like: ‘The world is gonna end in 12 years if we don’t address climate change and your biggest issue is how are we gonna pay for it?'" Ocasio-Cortez said.

I heard precisely the same shit, at the first Earth Day in Washington DC, April 1970. A half-century ago.

Ocasio-Cortez calls climate change ‘our World War II,’ warns the world will end in 12 years

Predictions from 1970 -

“We have about five more years at the outside to do something.”
• Kenneth Watt, ecologist

“Civilization will end within 15 or 30 years unless immediate action is taken against problems facing mankind.”
• George Wald, Harvard Biologist

“We are in an environmental crisis which threatens the survival of this nation, and of the world as a suitable place of human habitation.”
• Barry Commoner, Washington University biologist

“Man must stop pollution and conserve his resources, not merely to enhance existence but to save the race from intolerable deterioration and possible extinction.”
• New York Times editorial, the day after the first Earth Day

“Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supplies we make. The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next ten years.”
• Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist

“By…[1975] some experts feel that food shortages will have escalated the present level of world hunger and starvation into famines of unbelievable proportions. Other experts, more optimistic, think the ultimate food-population collision will not occur until the decade of the 1980s.”
• Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist

“It is already too late to avoid mass starvation.”
• Denis Hayes, chief organizer for Earth Day

“Demographers agree almost unanimously on the following grim timetable: by 1975 widespread famines will begin in India; these will spread by 1990 to include all of India, Pakistan, China and the Near East, Africa. By the year 2000, or conceivably sooner, South and Central America will exist under famine conditions….By the year 2000, thirty years from now, the entire world, with the exception of Western Europe, North America, and Australia, will be in famine.”
• Peter Gunter, professor, North Texas State University

“Scientists have solid experimental and theoretical evidence to support…the following predictions: In a decade, urban dwellers will have to wear gas masks to survive air pollution…by 1985 air pollution will have reduced the amount of sunlight reaching earth by one half….”
• Life Magazine, January 1970

“At the present rate of nitrogen buildup, it’s only a matter of time before light will be filtered out of the atmosphere and none of our land will be usable.”
• Kenneth Watt, Ecologist

“Air pollution…is certainly going to take hundreds of thousands of lives in the next few years alone.”
• Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist

“We are prospecting for the very last of our resources and using up the nonrenewable things many times faster than we are finding new ones.”
• Martin Litton, Sierra Club director

“By the year 2000, if present trends continue, we will be using up crude oil at such a rate…that there won’t be any more crude oil. You’ll drive up to the pump and say, `Fill ‘er up, buddy,’ and he’ll say, `I am very sorry, there isn’t any.'”
• Kenneth Watt, Ecologist

“Dr. S. Dillon Ripley, secretary of the Smithsonian Institute, believes that in 25 years, somewhere between 75 and 80 percent of all the species of living animals will be extinct.”
• Sen. Gaylord Nelson

“The world has been chilling sharply for about twenty years. If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder in the year 2000. This is about twice what it would take to put us into an ice age.”
• Kenneth Watt, Ecologist

Seems back in the 70's people listened to the experts and we did something about pollution.

I guess you forgot actions taken back when the sciences took notice, like when Lake Erie (actually the Cayahuga (sp?) River) caught fire at Cleveland.
Billy, haven't you seen quizzical changes since you were a pup? I remember longer winters. As a teen, it was tradition to go ice skating on Thanksgiving morning, and there were no inside rinks in those days. Now we get random large dumps and cold snaps between warmings. This is our 3rd 'green' Christmas. Here it is January in SE Michigan and we have had under 2" snow, and that only in the last week. I've had my snow thrower out once and that was for snow I could have broomed just as easy. I'm not complaining exactly, but meager snowfall means a dry spring and a dryer hotter summer. Earth NEEDS that snow.
Any changes in your neck of the woods?

Billy would rather call folks ugly, snarky nasty names than talk reasonably about any topic other than protecting his Orange Baby Jebuz Savior DJT.

Billy can speak for himself, but I know that isn't true. Like everyone, he tosses out a bumper-sticker hit on occasion, but mostly offers a valid argument. IF one shows civility, he will return in kind! Although I still can't figure why he defends Trump.

Support of DJT was pretty much my point. However, to say that "Democrats choose such ignorant people" is just as much nonsense as it is for someone to say that Republicans choose such ignorant people. And not a single US voting citizen I've come in contact with chooses anyone to lord over them. As far as I know, we vote for representation. Which is why I posted, ugly, snarky and nasty. Anyway, thank you for the heads up about Billy Kinetta. I will keep that in mind.