Judge Engeron should be disbarred for judicial misconduct.

[Billo_Really]

What fraud?

The fraud he was found guilty of. And there were many. One being where he inflated the square footage of his Trump Tower apartment to 3 times what it was.

 

[Billo_Really]

In a civil fraud case, the plaintiff presents how much he/she lost as the result of the fraud. There was no victim, there was no fraud. This is twisting and contorting the laws into a weapon to attack Trump.

No, there was fraud. When you inflate the wealth of your real estate to get bank loans, then devalue that same real estate to the IRS, that is fraud.

 

[Zincwarrior]

The Democrat handpicked hack judge Engeron should absolutely face disbarment along with Letitia James. The arbitrary judgements made by this nut job are so far beyond reasonable punitive damages, his conduct demands his removal from the courts. If you disagree, state why.

MSN

Fuck of Pudo. Your God needs your money!

 

[Leo123]

The fraud he was found guilty of. And there were many. One being where he inflated the square footage of his Trump Tower apartment to 3 times what it was.

No harm, no fraud. Who in any of those transactions complained?

 

[martybegan]

The victims are the people of new york.

AS IN

THE PEOPLE V TRUMP

How did they lose any of their money?

 

[martybegan]

It's a fine for a criminal act.
A fine, not an award based on compensatory losses, a fine.

But don't let facts interfere with your whinefest.

What criminal act? Was he convicted of a crime?

 

[martybegan]

How much money does the state lose when you speed?
None you say.
There ya go.

They then charge you for speeding, a violation, not a crime.

Also the rules for speeding are clear and concise.

What crime did Trump get convicted of?

 

[Dadoalex]

How did they lose any of their money?

Irrelevant

 

[Dadoalex]

What criminal act? Was he convicted of a crime?

The Trump Company was convicted and when companies get convicted, they pay.
Not Trump, his company.
And if that's cash out of his pocket then that's a good thing.

 

[martybegan]

Irrelevant

That's usually a big part of a fraud case, actually the only part of a fraud case.

 

[Dadoalex]

That's usually a big part of a fraud case, actually the only part of a fraud case.

I'm guessing the opinions of the NY AG and the Judge carry slightly more credibility than someone on the internet.

I've provided the decision which includes the rationale and legal citings.

If that is insufficient then your argument is not about "the victims" but about the person you consider "the victim," the actual perpetrator, Trump.

 

[martybegan]

I'm guessing the opinions of the NY AG and the Judge carry slightly more credibility than someone on the internet.

I've provided the decision which includes the rationale and legal citings.

If that is insufficient then your argument is not about "the victims" but about the person you consider "the victim," the actual perpetrator, Trump.

not when they are obviously corrupt and on a political vendetta.

You can provide the rationale for Plessey, would that make it a right decision?

There are no victims and there was no crime. hence why James had to make up this use of a law never used before in the way it is being used now. Which is why it should be drummed out of court on appeal.

 

[Dadoalex]

not when they are obviously corrupt and on a political vendetta.

You can provide the rationale for Plessey, would that make it a right decision?

There are no victims and there was no crime. hence why James had to make up this use of a law never used before in the way it is being used now. Which is why it should be drummed out of court on appeal.

Asked and answered.

You'll get nowhere beating a dead dog.

When you have the facts argue the facts
When you have the law you argue the law
When you have Trump you accuse the other side of cheating

 

[martybegan]

Asked and answered.

You'll get nowhere beating a dead dog.

When you have the facts argue the facts
When you have the law you argue the law
When you have Trump you accuse the other side of cheating

Not even close. And the rest is standard Prog-dodge.

 

[Billo_Really]

No harm, no fraud. Who in any of those transactions complained?

So you are saying it is okay to lie and deceive if no one says anything?

 

[Leo123]

So you are saying it is okay to lie and deceive if no one says anything?

What exactly lie about?

 

[Billo_Really]

What exactly lie about?

Do you have ADD? I told you 2 posts ago, dumbass!

 

[para bellum]

Also to add, section (c) of CPRL 5519 is where the discretion is explicitly stated:

(c) Stay and limitation of stay by court order. The court from or to which an appeal is taken or the court of original instance may stay all proceedings to enforce the judgment or order appealed from pending an appeal or determination on a motion for permission to appeal in a case not provided for in subdivision (a) or subdivision (b), or may grant a limited stay or may vacate, limit or modify any stay imposed by subdivision (a), subdivision (b) or this subdivision, except that only the court to which an appeal is taken may vacate, limit or modify a stay imposed by paragraph one of subdivision (a).

Let's see, what was I saying here? Oh yeah, I remember.

CPRL 5519 (c) gives discretion to the court...

"And defendants-appellants having moved, pursuant to CPLR 5519 (c), to stay enforcement of the aforesaid order and ensuing judgment, pending hearing and determination of the appeals taken therefrom,

Now, upon reading and filing the papers with respect to the motion, and due deliberation having been had thereon It is ordered that the motion is granted to the extent of staying enforcement of those portions of the Judgment (1) ordering disgorgement to the Attorney General of $464,576,230.62, conditioned on defendants-appellants posting, within ten (10) days of the date of this order, an undertaking in the amount of $175 million dollars; (2) permanently barring defendants Weisselberg and McConney from serving in the financial control function of any New York corporation or similar business entity; (3) barring defendants Donald J. Trump, Weisselberg and McConney from serving as an officer or director of any New York corporation for three years; (4) barring defendant Donald J. Trump and the corporate defendants from applying for loans from New York
financial institutions for three years; and (5) barring defendants Donald Trump, Jr. and Eric Trump from serving as an officer or director of any New York corporation in New York for two years.

 

[Leo123]

Do you have ADD? I told you 2 posts ago, dumbass!

No you didn’t you just labeled Trump a liar and a cheat with no supporting evidence.

 

[Billo_Really]

No you didn’t you just labeled Trump a liar and a cheat with no supporting evidence.

Wrong! I gave one example of how he lied. Go back and read it again, you fucking troll!