Joseph Stalin Takes A Trip To Hawaii

[PoliticalChic]

The goal of spies is usually, not to be detected. But the USSR spies were so crude and inept even McCarthy claims he had discovered them, not just one, but hundreds. It seems that even McCarthy carried about a piece of paper with the Soviet spy list on it,
Meanwhile how many allied spies did the Soviets discover?

What a stupid, vapid, meaningless post.

And....no supporting documentation....
...one might think that your past posts have given your opinions a veneer of credibility.


They haven't....you're nothing but our best source of greenhouse gases.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Roosevelt's apologists and Stalin's supporters have yet to make a dent in this thread....
....lies and attempts to change the subject, notwithstanding....

So...let's give dumb row another opportunity.



9. Stalin's agents in Washington, D.C. and in Tokyo, made certain that his plans met with success.....that plan was the attack on Pearl Harbor.


a. "From both Tokyo and Washington, KGB cells 'worked in mid-1941 to avert a Japanese invasion of the Soviet Union..."
"Sacred Secrets: How Soviet Intelligence Operations Changed American History," by Leona Schecter and Jerrold Schecter


b."Soviet military intelligence officer,Richard Sorge, directed the espionage network in Tokyo, which included members of the Institute of Pacific Relations,managed to push the Japanese to strike, not north into the Soviet Union, but at American interests."
"BlacklistedBy History," Stanton Evans, p. 390-392
[The IPC was rife with Soviet agents, such as Owen Lattimore.]


c. In Washington, agent Lauchlin Currie, White House economic adviser to President Franklin Roosevelt, worked at undermining any rapprochement between the US and Japan,and influenced the US to provoke the Japanese.

 

[regent]

The goal of spies is usually, not to be detected. But the USSR spies were so crude and inept even McCarthy claims he had discovered them, not just one, but hundreds. It seems that even McCarthy carried about a piece of paper with the Soviet spy list on it,
Meanwhile how many allied spies did the Soviets discover?

What a stupid, vapid, meaningless post.

And....no supporting documentation....
...one might think that your past posts have given your opinions a veneer of credibility.


They haven't....you're nothing but our best source of greenhouse gases.

So can you name one Soviet official that waved a paper in the air saying I have a list of allied spies? What better documentation is needed to suggest our spies were so much better than the Soviet spies.

 

[PoliticalChic]

The goal of spies is usually, not to be detected. But the USSR spies were so crude and inept even McCarthy claims he had discovered them, not just one, but hundreds. It seems that even McCarthy carried about a piece of paper with the Soviet spy list on it,
Meanwhile how many allied spies did the Soviets discover?

What a stupid, vapid, meaningless post.

And....no supporting documentation....
...one might think that your past posts have given your opinions a veneer of credibility.


They haven't....you're nothing but our best source of greenhouse gases.

So can you name one Soviet official that waved a paper in the air saying I have a list of allied spies? What better documentation is needed to suggest our spies were so much better than the Soviet spies.

I can name a phony whose post has nothing to do with this thread...
...that would be you.


True?

 

[PoliticalChic]

And, as presaged by the title of the thread....Stalin moved the pins on his global map to target Pearl Harbor....


I said this thread was about 'snow'.....



10. In 1995,Kremlin agent Vitaly Pavlov revealed "Operation Snow,"the plan to manipulate Japan and America into war.

a. In "Sacred Secrets: How Soviet Intelligence Operations Changed American History," Leona Schecter and Jerrold Schecter make a very strong case for Pearl Harbor being the most complex and successful KGB operation,designed to avert a Japanese attack on the USSR, and to force the United States to fight a two-front war, and be unable to stop Stalin from control of at least half of Europe. In 1995, former Kremlin agent Vitaly Pavlov revealed his role in this "Operation Snow."


b. Pavlov "was sent to the United States seven months before the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor to meet with Harry Dexter White, then director of Monetary Research for the Treasury.

Did "Snow" mean "White"? Yes,

Harry Dexter White had been a Soviet "asset" since the early 1930s, providing information to Whittaker Chambers, a courier for the communist underground. By 1941 White was a top aide and adviser to Henry Morgenthau, Jr., Secretary of the Treasury.

Pavlov wrote that the Soviets feared a Japanese attack from the east, and his mission was to discuss with White what could be done to keep the Japanese from joining forces with the Germans."
Sacred Secrets: How Soviet Intelligence Operations Changed American History
[Operation Snow http://nation.time.com/2012/12/07/pearl-harbor-2-0/]



c. "The chapter on Pearl Harbor is likewise instructive as to how Soviet agents operated.

Japan seriously considered an attack on Russia, but Stalin’s agents in the Japanese government and in the highly efficient Sorge spy ring on the island nation helped persuade Imperial Japan to turn its aggression “elsewhere.” That “elsewhere” eventually turned out to be Pearl Harbor.

Stalin’s acolytes in the U.S. were simultaneously pushing a foreign policy against Japan that would lead the Japanese away from any designs on Siberia and toward conflict with America."
Infiltration, intrigue and Communists - Conservative News


Connect those dots!
Stalin had spies in every important nation.
In America they controlled Roosevelt,and the nation's foreign policy.

Evidence indicates that he did the same in Japan....
...and the result was the attack on Pearl Harbor.

 

[regent]

So how did the whole thing turn out?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Stalin won....Roosevelt threw in the towel, and saddled America with dunces like you.

 

[Camp]

Stalin won....Roosevelt threw in the towel, and saddled America with dunces like you.

Roosevelt never threw in the towel. He died while in office. His death before completing some of his grand visions allows conspiracy theorist like you to imagine all kinds of nutty stuff.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Stalin won....Roosevelt threw in the towel, and saddled America with dunces like you.

Roosevelt never threw in the towel. He died while in office. His death before completing some of his grand visions allows conspiracy theorist like you to imagine all kinds of nutty stuff.

He embraced Soviet communism in 1933.

"On November 16, 1933, President Franklin Roosevelt ended almost 16 years of American non-recognition of the Soviet Union following a series of negotiations in Washington, D.C. with the Soviet Commissar for Foreign Affairs, Maxim Litvinov." Recognition of the Soviet Union 1933 - 1921 1936 - Milestones - Office of the Historian


How about you change your avi to 'Stooge'?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Next witness....Robert Striplng.


11. "Robert Stripling served ten years (1938-1948) as Chief Investigator of the bipartisan House Un-American Activities Committee (HUAC).
" Congress had created the Committee in the 1930s to publicly gather information on, primarily, American Nazis, Klansmen, and other homegrown fascists. Only later, as Communism's wide scope and insidious nature became apparent, did HUAC set out to expose the vast leftwing conspiracy of its American operations, a conspiracy propagated by both card-carrying members and fellow-traveling sympathizers... the committee itself was predominately made up of democrats.."
http://www.amazon.com/Red-Plot-Agai...r=8-1&keywords=robert+stripling&tag=ff0d01-20



In Stripling's memoir, written in 1949 and republished in 2010, he provides this interesting insight: Stalin's spies did not want to allow Americans to be made aware of possible attack by Japan because the uproar might dissuade the Japanese from doing so!

[Get that? More proof that communist sympathizers were un-American: they sacrificed 3000 Americans at Pearl Harbor.
And which side was Roosevelt on? He promoted Soviet spies in his administration.]


Stripling wrote that the acting attorney-general informed Rep. Martin Dies that after discussing the question with the President and Secretary Hull "he was denying permission to the House Committee on UN-American Activities to hold hearings on Japanese spying on the Pacific Coast and in Hawaii.


In effect, furthering the Soviet plot to push Japan and America toward war.


"For the remainder of my life, I will always believe that our disclosures would have aroused enough alarm among our people to have caused the Japanese to abandon their planned attack on Pearl Harbor."
"The Red Plot Against America,"by Robert E. Stripling, p. 35-36

[But Franklin Roosevelt wouldn't allow hearings....]



"Moscow, of course, urgently needed the Pearl Harbor attack to succeed."
Peter Niblo, "Influence," p. 75.

So....FDR, as well.

 

[kiwiman127]

Roosevelt's apologists and Stalin's supporters have yet to make a dent in this thread....
....lies and attempts to change the subject, notwithstanding....

So...let's give dumb row another opportunity.



9. Stalin's agents in Washington, D.C. and in Tokyo, made certain that his plans met with success.....that plan was the attack on Pearl Harbor.


a. "From both Tokyo and Washington, KGB cells 'worked in mid-1941 to avert a Japanese invasion of the Soviet Union..."
"Sacred Secrets: How Soviet Intelligence Operations Changed American History," by Leona Schecter and Jerrold Schecter


b."Soviet military intelligence officer,Richard Sorge, directed the espionage network in Tokyo, which included members of the Institute of Pacific Relations,managed to push the Japanese to strike, not north into the Soviet Union, but at American interests."
"BlacklistedBy History," Stanton Evans, p. 390-392
[The IPC was rife with Soviet agents, such as Owen Lattimore.]


c. In Washington, agent Lauchlin Currie, White House economic adviser to President Franklin Roosevelt, worked at undermining any rapprochement between the US and Japan,and influenced the US to provoke the Japanese.

Will you stop using words associated with spying?
This thread has nothing to do with spying, it has to do with FDR being a commie pinko socialist!
Of course we have already had 223 threads about FDR the commie, but hey. what's another one?
Repeat it enough and by God, it must be a fact! Kinda like propaganda.
You missed your calling PC.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Roosevelt's apologists and Stalin's supporters have yet to make a dent in this thread....
....lies and attempts to change the subject, notwithstanding....

So...let's give dumb row another opportunity.



9. Stalin's agents in Washington, D.C. and in Tokyo, made certain that his plans met with success.....that plan was the attack on Pearl Harbor.


a. "From both Tokyo and Washington, KGB cells 'worked in mid-1941 to avert a Japanese invasion of the Soviet Union..."
"Sacred Secrets: How Soviet Intelligence Operations Changed American History," by Leona Schecter and Jerrold Schecter


b."Soviet military intelligence officer,Richard Sorge, directed the espionage network in Tokyo, which included members of the Institute of Pacific Relations,managed to push the Japanese to strike, not north into the Soviet Union, but at American interests."
"BlacklistedBy History," Stanton Evans, p. 390-392
[The IPC was rife with Soviet agents, such as Owen Lattimore.]


c. In Washington, agent Lauchlin Currie, White House economic adviser to President Franklin Roosevelt, worked at undermining any rapprochement between the US and Japan,and influenced the US to provoke the Japanese.

Will you stop using words associated with spying?
This thread has nothing to do with spying, it has to do with FDR being a commie pinko socialist!
Of course we have already had 223 threads about FDR the commie, but hey. what's another one?
Repeat it enough and by God, it must be a fact! Kinda like propaganda.
You missed your calling PC.

Another non-post by a non-thinker.

 

[kiwiman127]

Roosevelt's apologists and Stalin's supporters have yet to make a dent in this thread....
....lies and attempts to change the subject, notwithstanding....

So...let's give dumb row another opportunity.



9. Stalin's agents in Washington, D.C. and in Tokyo, made certain that his plans met with success.....that plan was the attack on Pearl Harbor.


a. "From both Tokyo and Washington, KGB cells 'worked in mid-1941 to avert a Japanese invasion of the Soviet Union..."
"Sacred Secrets: How Soviet Intelligence Operations Changed American History," by Leona Schecter and Jerrold Schecter


b."Soviet military intelligence officer,Richard Sorge, directed the espionage network in Tokyo, which included members of the Institute of Pacific Relations,managed to push the Japanese to strike, not north into the Soviet Union, but at American interests."
"BlacklistedBy History," Stanton Evans, p. 390-392
[The IPC was rife with Soviet agents, such as Owen Lattimore.]


c. In Washington, agent Lauchlin Currie, White House economic adviser to President Franklin Roosevelt, worked at undermining any rapprochement between the US and Japan,and influenced the US to provoke the Japanese.

Will you stop using words associated with spying?
This thread has nothing to do with spying, it has to do with FDR being a commie pinko socialist!
Of course we have already had 223 threads about FDR the commie, but hey. what's another one?
Repeat it enough and by God, it must be a fact! Kinda like propaganda.
You missed your calling PC.

Another non-post by a non-thinker.

No, that's not it.
You are a redundant poster, repeating the same stuff over and over again.
It must be really easy, not having to think, just coming up with the same stuff over and over and over again. Actually, it's kinda boring.
Ta-ta.

 

[Camp]

Stalin won....Roosevelt threw in the towel, and saddled America with dunces like you.

Roosevelt never threw in the towel. He died while in office. His death before completing some of his grand visions allows conspiracy theorist like you to imagine all kinds of nutty stuff.

He embraced Soviet communism in 1933.

"On November 16, 1933, President Franklin Roosevelt ended almost 16 years of American non-recognition of the Soviet Union following a series of negotiations in Washington, D.C. with the Soviet Commissar for Foreign Affairs, Maxim Litvinov." Recognition of the Soviet Union 1933 - 1921 1936 - Milestones - Office of the Historian


How about you change your avi to 'Stooge'?

He gave recognition to the USSR because the business community was demanding it in the middle of a depression and it made economic and political sense. It was also desperately needed as the world watched the possibility of war on the horizon. Leaving diplomatic recognition unrecognized with a big player in global politics like the USSR would have been negligent in the extreme. It proved beyond any doubt to have been the proper and wise decision.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Roosevelt's apologists and Stalin's supporters have yet to make a dent in this thread....
....lies and attempts to change the subject, notwithstanding....

So...let's give dumb row another opportunity.



9. Stalin's agents in Washington, D.C. and in Tokyo, made certain that his plans met with success.....that plan was the attack on Pearl Harbor.


a. "From both Tokyo and Washington, KGB cells 'worked in mid-1941 to avert a Japanese invasion of the Soviet Union..."
"Sacred Secrets: How Soviet Intelligence Operations Changed American History," by Leona Schecter and Jerrold Schecter


b."Soviet military intelligence officer,Richard Sorge, directed the espionage network in Tokyo, which included members of the Institute of Pacific Relations,managed to push the Japanese to strike, not north into the Soviet Union, but at American interests."
"BlacklistedBy History," Stanton Evans, p. 390-392
[The IPC was rife with Soviet agents, such as Owen Lattimore.]


c. In Washington, agent Lauchlin Currie, White House economic adviser to President Franklin Roosevelt, worked at undermining any rapprochement between the US and Japan,and influenced the US to provoke the Japanese.

Will you stop using words associated with spying?
This thread has nothing to do with spying, it has to do with FDR being a commie pinko socialist!
Of course we have already had 223 threads about FDR the commie, but hey. what's another one?
Repeat it enough and by God, it must be a fact! Kinda like propaganda.
You missed your calling PC.

Another non-post by a non-thinker.

No, that's not it.
You are a redundant poster, repeating the same stuff over and over again.
It must be really easy, not having to think, just coming up with the same stuff over and over and over again. Actually, it's kinda boring.
Ta-ta.

OK...you can have your money back.

 

[Camp]

Roosevelt's apologists and Stalin's supporters have yet to make a dent in this thread....
....lies and attempts to change the subject, notwithstanding....

So...let's give dumb row another opportunity.



9. Stalin's agents in Washington, D.C. and in Tokyo, made certain that his plans met with success.....that plan was the attack on Pearl Harbor.


a. "From both Tokyo and Washington, KGB cells 'worked in mid-1941 to avert a Japanese invasion of the Soviet Union..."
"Sacred Secrets: How Soviet Intelligence Operations Changed American History," by Leona Schecter and Jerrold Schecter


b."Soviet military intelligence officer,Richard Sorge, directed the espionage network in Tokyo, which included members of the Institute of Pacific Relations,managed to push the Japanese to strike, not north into the Soviet Union, but at American interests."
"BlacklistedBy History," Stanton Evans, p. 390-392
[The IPC was rife with Soviet agents, such as Owen Lattimore.]


c. In Washington, agent Lauchlin Currie, White House economic adviser to President Franklin Roosevelt, worked at undermining any rapprochement between the US and Japan,and influenced the US to provoke the Japanese.

Will you stop using words associated with spying?
This thread has nothing to do with spying, it has to do with FDR being a commie pinko socialist!
Of course we have already had 223 threads about FDR the commie, but hey. what's another one?
Repeat it enough and by God, it must be a fact! Kinda like propaganda.
You missed your calling PC.

PC is on a continuous and dedicated mission to demonize FDR. He transformed the doctrines that guide American ideologies that have been accepted by the masses of America's major political parties. His doctrines have been followed to some degree by every President and government since he served. The fascist and corporatist will hate him forever.

 

[Meathead]

PC is on a continuous and dedicated mission to demonize FDR. He transformed the doctrines that guide American ideologies that have been accepted by the masses of America's major political parties. His doctrines have been followed to some degree by every President and government since he served. The fascist and corporatist will hate him forever.

Sounds a great deal like Reagan you simpleton. They were both were political giants and changed the world, but Reagan did it in eight years.

I know that annoys you to no end

 

[Camp]

PC is on a continuous and dedicated mission to demonize FDR. He transformed the doctrines that guide American ideologies that have been accepted by the masses of America's major political parties. His doctrines have been followed to some degree by every President and government since he served. The fascist and corporatist will hate him forever.

Sounds a great deal like Reagan you simpleton. They were both were political giants and changed the world, but Reagan did it in eight years.

I know that annoys you to no end

It is a misguided statement so it doesn't annoy me at all. Very few people agree with your comment and they become fewer and fewer as the time rolls by. Not sure what you use as a Reagan doctrine that is still in use today. What is it from that era that you believe has lasted and been proven successful over time?

 

[Meathead]

It is a misguided statement so it doesn't annoy me at all. Very few people agree with your comment and they become fewer and fewer as the time rolls by. Not sure what you use as a Reagan doctrine that is still in use today. What is it from that era that you believe has lasted and been proven successful over time?

The Reagan Doctrine was the confrontation of the USSR. That it, and the USSR lasted less than a decade is a tribute to his, and its success.

You're a bit of a light weight Camp. Think before you write.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Stalin won....Roosevelt threw in the towel, and saddled America with dunces like you.

Roosevelt never threw in the towel. He died while in office. His death before completing some of his grand visions allows conspiracy theorist like you to imagine all kinds of nutty stuff.

He embraced Soviet communism in 1933.

"On November 16, 1933, President Franklin Roosevelt ended almost 16 years of American non-recognition of the Soviet Union following a series of negotiations in Washington, D.C. with the Soviet Commissar for Foreign Affairs, Maxim Litvinov." Recognition of the Soviet Union 1933 - 1921 1936 - Milestones - Office of the Historian


How about you change your avi to 'Stooge'?

He gave recognition to the USSR because the business community was demanding it in the middle of a depression and it made economic and political sense. It was also desperately needed as the world watched the possibility of war on the horizon. Leaving diplomatic recognition unrecognized with a big player in global politics like the USSR would have been negligent in the extreme. It proved beyond any doubt to have been the proper and wise decision.

"He gave recognition to the USSR because the business community was demanding it..."

Really?

The same folks he pilloried, calling them them “privileged princes…thirsting for power.”

The ones he wanted to tax out of existence?

1. Under the Robertson-Forand Bill, which passed the House 313-95 on May 4, 1943, people who earned $100,000 in 1942 and 1943 combined owed $115,985 in 1943. Those who earned $1,000,000 owed $1,564,795. Then a compromise was reached so that the figure owed was only $1,006,750 on a $1,000,000 income. Class warfare worked well as a strategy for FDR and the Democrats in the 1940s. Folsom and Folsom, "FDR Goes To War."

You're quite the fool, aren't you.