John Stossel: Where are the jobs?

[teapartysamurai]

If you have the numbers provide them.

i already did, remember? Here:


153,000 private sector jobs added this summer vs. losing about 800,000 in Jan of 2009 and 346,000 one year ago.

Private sector jobs, Jan 2001: 111,634,000
Private sector jobs, Jan 2009: 110,961,000

Difference: -673,000

No, I'm sorry, an actual cut and paste from the website with url, like this!

2000- 4.0%
2001- 4.7%
2002- 5.8%
2003- 6.0%
2004- 5.5%
2005- 5.1%
2006- 4.6%
2007- 4.6%
2008- 5.8%

NOW LET'S EXAMINE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN OBAMA TAKES OFFICE???????

2009- 9.3%
2010YTD - 9.9%

United States Unemployment data


It's very easy. And it sure proves what a lie your data is.

 

[8537]

It's very easy. And it sure proves what a lie your data is.

I linked to a PDF. You can't cut and paste from a PDF.

Maybe your mom can show you how to scroll to page 5.

 

[Article 15]

IF IT TAKES ONLY EIGHT SECONDS THEN YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO COPY AND PASTE THE EXACT NUMBERS.

Oh for fucks sake.

This is why you can't C&P the numbers because it looks like this coming form a PDF:

Category
July
2009
May
2010
June
2010p
July
2010p
EMPLOYMENT BY SELECTED INDUSTRY
(Over-the-month change, in thousands)
Total nonfarm. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . -346 432 -221 -131
Total private. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . -297 51 31 71

He already gave you the numbers in his post. The PDF was the back that YOU asked for, you fucking hack. It's outrageous how dishonest you are.

 

[teapartysamurai]

It's very easy. And it sure proves what a lie your data is.

I linked to a PDF. You can't cut and paste from a PDF.

Maybe your mom can show you how to scroll to page 5.

BS, I do it all the time!

Fine. I will do you a fav, not that I accept your numbers as true, but I'll address them for fun's sake.

So somehow, numbers from BEFORE BUSH BECAME PRESIDENT, and numbers from AFTER OBAMA TOOK THE PRESIDENCY proves this is all Bush's fault?????

When these are the ACTUAL NUMBERS???????

2000- 4.0%
2001- 4.7%
2002- 5.8%
2003- 6.0%
2004- 5.5%
2005- 5.1%
2006- 4.6%
2007- 4.6%
2008- 5.8%

NOW LET'S EXAMINE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN OBAMA TAKES OFFICE???????

2009- 9.3%
2010YTD - 9.9%

United States Unemployment data

All that proves is things were looking up after the Clinton dot.com bubble burst of the 90s, but were already TANKING under Obama.

This proves Bush is at fault?

Like I said. Topspin sock puppet.

Hilarious!

 

[MarcATL]

You want jobs to come back into the USA?

Easy peasy...stop allowing every third world shithole in the world to import goods into this nation.

That really all that we need to do.

Now ask yourselves why we allowed this state of affairs to happen in the first place.

After all the founding fathers understood perfectly that if you wanted an industrial nation you needed to foster industry in it.

Why did we forget such an obvious thing as that?

Because American workers make too much and the only way to prosperity is through lower wages.

Don't forgot...to lower the taxes of the rich or job providers. Since no one ever knew a poor man that gave them a job.

 

[teapartysamurai]

You want jobs to come back into the USA?

Easy peasy...stop allowing every third world shithole in the world to import goods into this nation.

That really all that we need to do.

Now ask yourselves why we allowed this state of affairs to happen in the first place.

After all the founding fathers understood perfectly that if you wanted an industrial nation you needed to foster industry in it.

Why did we forget such an obvious thing as that?

Because American workers make too much and the only way to prosperity is through lower wages.

Don't forgot...to lower the taxes of the rich or job providers. Since no one ever knew a poor man that gave them a job.

Spoken like a true socialist.

Keep talking that way right up until November 2!

We conservatives can use the votes!

 

[AquaAthena]

From Karl Rove:

Earlier this month, first-time claims for unemployment hit a nine-month high. The unemployment rate remains at 9.5% and 18.4% of workers are out of a job, can only get part-time work, or have given up looking for a job altogether. Sales of existing homes dropped 27% from June to July, hitting the lowest point since data were first collected in 1999. The Conference Board's Consumer Confidence Index fell to 50.4 in July, continuing a slide that started in February. And the stock market is down 11% from its peak in April.


Mr. Obama's credibility is crumbling, and for good reason: He and his people are saying things people don't believe.

FOXNews.com - KARL ROVE: Obama's Disastarous 'Summer of Recovery'

 

[teapartysamurai]

From Karl Rove:

Earlier this month, first-time claims for unemployment hit a nine-month high. The unemployment rate remains at 9.5% and 18.4% of workers are out of a job, can only get part-time work, or have given up looking for a job altogether. Sales of existing homes dropped 27% from June to July, hitting the lowest point since data were first collected in 1999. The Conference Board's Consumer Confidence Index fell to 50.4 in July, continuing a slide that started in February. And the stock market is down 11% from its peak in April.


Mr. Obama's credibility is crumbling, and for good reason: He and his people are saying things people don't believe.

FOXNews.com - KARL ROVE: Obama's Disastarous 'Summer of Recovery'

Amen to that one!

Liberals can play with lying about the numbers, but the "boots on the ground" tells the real truth.

The boots on the ground are people on their feet looking for a job and CAN'T FIND ONE.

Liberals can lie and say we are better off, but a person without a job sure doesn't feel better off!

And they are going to make that view known to Democrats, come November!

 

[Article 15]

It's very easy. And it sure proves what a lie your data is.

I linked to a PDF. You can't cut and paste from a PDF.

Maybe your mom can show you how to scroll to page 5.

BS, I do it all the time!

Fine. I will do you a fav, not that I accept your numbers as true, but I'll address them for fun's sake.

So somehow, numbers from BEFORE BUSH BECAME PRESIDENT, and numbers from AFTER OBAMA TOOK THE PRESIDENCY proves this is all Bush's fault?????

When these are the ACTUAL NUMBERS???????

2000- 4.0%
2001- 4.7%
2002- 5.8%
2003- 6.0%
2004- 5.5%
2005- 5.1%
2006- 4.6%
2007- 4.6%
2008- 5.8%

NOW LET'S EXAMINE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN OBAMA TAKES OFFICE???????

2009- 9.3%
2010YTD - 9.9%

United States Unemployment data

All that proves is things were looking up after the Clinton dot.com bubble burst of the 90s, but were already TANKING under Obama.

This proves Bush is at fault?

Like I said. Topspin sock puppet.

Hilarious!

You didn't address shit. You babbled some nonsense then just posted the same crap you posted earlier. The economy crashing, unemployment, etc are not the fault of BOOOSHH, Obama, Clinton ... I never made that assertion so you can shove that strawman right up your ass. The economy crashing is the fault of the government (both parties), Wall Street, and the average citizen. No one man is "at fault" for it. Why am I wasting my time though ... you are a total hack who wont even click on a scary PDF link lest she see something that goes against her hack narrative.

 

[teapartysamurai]

Article 15 and topspin sockpuppet.

Well now we know who the political hacks are.

You tried to play with your numbers, but REAL PEOPLE WITHOUT JOBS, just trumped that lie, big time.

You tried to play stats, I royal flushed you down the tubes with actual unemployment numbers.

As Mark Twain used to say: "There are three kinds of lies: Lies, damn lies, and statistics."

See if your lying stats will keep your guys in office come November!

 

[teapartysamurai]

I linked to a PDF. You can't cut and paste from a PDF.

Maybe your mom can show you how to scroll to page 5.

BS, I do it all the time!

Fine. I will do you a fav, not that I accept your numbers as true, but I'll address them for fun's sake.

So somehow, numbers from BEFORE BUSH BECAME PRESIDENT, and numbers from AFTER OBAMA TOOK THE PRESIDENCY proves this is all Bush's fault?????

When these are the ACTUAL NUMBERS???????

2000- 4.0%
2001- 4.7%
2002- 5.8%
2003- 6.0%
2004- 5.5%
2005- 5.1%
2006- 4.6%
2007- 4.6%
2008- 5.8%

NOW LET'S EXAMINE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN OBAMA TAKES OFFICE???????

2009- 9.3%
2010YTD - 9.9%

United States Unemployment data

All that proves is things were looking up after the Clinton dot.com bubble burst of the 90s, but were already TANKING under Obama.

This proves Bush is at fault?

Like I said. Topspin sock puppet.

Hilarious!

You didn't address shit. You babbled some nonsense then just posted the same crap you posted earlier. The economy crashing, unemployment, etc are not the fault of BOOOSHH, Obama, Clinton ... I never made that assertion so you can shove that strawman right up your ass. The economy crashing is the fault of the government (both parties), Wall Street, and the average citizen. No one man is "at fault" for it. Why am I wasting my time though ... you are a total hack who wont even click on a scary PDF link lest she see something that goes against her hack narrative.

Bwahahaaa!

This is typical liberal. They try to come off all "intelligent" and babble some numbers at you.

But when you show REAL FACTS that flush their lies away, they just splutter and call names.

I think we know who the hacks are here!

But impotently splutter on, if it makes you feel better.

Game set and match moron! Run along with your topspin sock puppet.

 

[Article 15]

Game set and match

Yes, your fail failed hackjob lost.

 

[teapartysamurai]

Game set and match

Yes, your fail failed hackjob lost.

Yes, that's why you are reduced to one sentence, no longer discussing the subject, and just ranting about me.

That's what liberals do WHEN THEY LOSE!

But if you have more "stats" that prove this is all Bush's fault, let me know!

Just remember, those lying stats have to get past this 500 lb gorilla:

2000- 4.0%
2001- 4.7%
2002- 5.8%
2003- 6.0%
2004- 5.5%
2005- 5.1%
2006- 4.6%
2007- 4.6%
2008- 5.8%

NOW LET'S EXAMINE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN OBAMA TAKES OFFICE???????

2009- 9.3%
2010YTD - 9.9%

United States Unemployment data


Until then, NOVEMBER IS COMING!!

 

[8537]

The PDF was the back that YOU asked for, you fucking hack. It's outrageous how dishonest you are.

I've learned to expect no better. It's just fun to poke and see how far down rat hole of dishonesty s/he is willing to go.

 

[johnrocks]

John Stossel rocks! I sincerely believe that the government could have simply suspended the income tax withholding and income tax in 08-09 and it would have done far more to stimulate the economy than what has been done. It would have put more money in everyone's hands to spend on things as opposed to a road job here or there.

 

[8537]

Game set and match

Yes, your fail failed hackjob lost.

Yes, that's why you are reduced to one sentence, no longer discussing the subject, and just ranting about me.

That's what liberals do WHEN THEY LOSE!

But if you have more "stats" that prove this is all Bush's fault, let me know!

Just remember, those lying stats have to get past this 500 lb gorilla:

2000- 4.0%
2001- 4.7%
2002- 5.8%
2003- 6.0%
2004- 5.5%
2005- 5.1%
2006- 4.6%
2007- 4.6%
2008- 5.8%

NOW LET'S EXAMINE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN OBAMA TAKES OFFICE???????

2009- 9.3%
2010YTD - 9.9%

United States Unemployment data


Until then, NOVEMBER IS COMING!!

Nice post, Valeyard. How's your cat?

 

[8537]

John Stossel rocks! I sincerely believe that the government could have simply suspended the income tax withholding and income tax in 08-09 and it would have done far more to stimulate the economy than what has been done. It would have put more money in everyone's hands to spend on things as opposed to a road job here or there.

To be fair, 40% of the stimulus package was tax cuts.

The other 60% was passed around as if the senate played pin-the-tail-on-the-political-payoff.

 

[teapartysamurai]

The PDF was the back that YOU asked for, you fucking hack. It's outrageous how dishonest you are.

I've learned to expect no better. It's just fun to poke and see how far down rat hole of dishonesty s/he is willing to go.

Yeah unemployment numbers are sooooooooooooooooooo dishonest when it comes to discussing WHERE ARE THE JOBS????

2000- 4.0%
2001- 4.7%
2002- 5.8%
2003- 6.0%
2004- 5.5%
2005- 5.1%
2006- 4.6%
2007- 4.6%
2008- 5.8%

NOW LET'S EXAMINE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN OBAMA TAKES OFFICE???????

2009- 9.3%
2010YTD - 9.9%

United States Unemployment data

Can you believe these two. It's like arguing with five year olds.

Do liberals think arguing like five year olds are going to keep Democrats in office come November?

Are they that clueless, that desperate, or are they just like "screw it, at least I'll have fun attacking conservatives."

You do have to wonder!

 

[Article 15]

Game set and match

Yes, your fail failed hackjob lost.

Yes, that's why you are reduced to one sentence, no longer discussing the subject, and just ranting about me.

That's what liberals do WHEN THEY LOSE!

But if you have more "stats" that prove this is all Bush's fault, let me know!

Until then, NOVEMBER IS COMING!!

Again, you fucking idiot, I'm not saying nor have I ever said it's all Bush's fault. Seriously, you are so fucking clueless and can't see past your own partisan nose.

The subject is that unemployment is bad. I agree. You want to blame it all on Obama. All I am saying is that unemployment is a classic lagging indicator meaning it's the last to rise and the last to go down. You somehow think this means I am blaming Bush. Maybe you have a guilty conscious. Maybe you think that the POTUS is the only person that affects the economy. I'm going with the latter. You seem that simplistic.

 

[uscitizen]

Because American workers make too much and the only way to prosperity is through lower wages.

That's what I call a novel position. Don't think I have ever heard that one.

It makes about as much sense as virtually eliminating our manufacturing base and sending as many jobs as we can overseas to hostile countries.

It is what industry wants, but is afraid to say.