Joe Day at the Portland Tax Day Tea Party

[WorldAHope]

3,000 attended the one in Salem, and "more than 1,000" were in Portland, according to local tv station,
Thousands in Oregon protest taxes and bailouts, tea party-style - Oregon, Northwest and National Politics & Elections News - Oregonlive.com

2,000 were at Portland according to a couple faithful enthusiastic Portland OR Tea Party attendees who said the plaza was full and that is about all it could hold.
Portland, Oregon Tea Party

That ain't 5,000 - 7,000, no matter how many times you say it. Your pic show what I estimate to be 2,000. The wide angle lens doesn't add people to the event.
I've been on stage at enough concerts and rallies where I knew the attendance.
That crowd isn't anywhere close to 5,000.

Maybe if you pumped in more silicon and stuffed them into a lift brassiere you can make the Tea Parties seem larger, and hide that they were half fake.
Thanks to modern technology, anybody can find muiltilple sources that describe each and every Tea Party.
1,000 - 3,000 were at Portland Oregon. Not 5,000 - 7,000.

Glad you had a good time. How many folks were there to protest government taxes and spending, and how many to protest Obama's election/heritage/birth certificate/"Socialism-fascism-communism" ?
Or are they the same thing

OregonLive is the Oregonian newspaper. I already addressed this. Look at my photos... Look at the video. They say only 1000 where in DT Portland and 2000 in Salem. That's not counting the other TWENTY events across Oregon.

You can try and marginalize us all you want. You will show yourself to be the fool.

Salem Oregon:
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More from Portland:
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Not marginalizing anything. Why are you attempting to inflate the attendance numbers ?
What's in it for YOU ? Is you ego attached to this ? You get a commission ?

The pictures and video show that there were not 5,000 - 7,000 people in that plaza, at that event. Like I said, I have been to enough events where attendance was paid and counted through tickets, and the video and pics of Portland Tea Party show that there were nowhere near 5,000 in attendance. 3,000 at the most, according to the video.
Nationwidel, attendance to the heavily promoted Tea Parties (FOX's air time devoted to pumping up and promoting the Tea Parties alone was worth $100 million in ad space) attracted less than 2% of American registered voters, (if you accept the higher attendance estimates). In addition, the attendance represented the existing conservative movement, that tiny sliver of unhappy white conservatives who want to "overthrow the people" with whom they have a political disagreement.

The number of people at Tea Parties if they all voted, would still have an insignificant effect upon the outcome of elections.
Face it -
Conservatives need a whole new product line. Trying to sell the same old tattered wares that America is very familiar with after years of those flawed failed policies, won't rejuvenate the party or those policies, and isn't attraxcting any new converts to the cause. I've been in marketting for decades, and the Conservative line of policies and personages has run its course. Played out. Unwanted. Its what we'd call a "highly specific niche" product. It has No mass appeal.
That lack of attractive product line ( as in "policies") is not AMERICA's problem,
that is the problem with the Conservatives.

Do conservatives and Tea Partiers get the feeling that they are just spieling their lines and policies ONLY to each other, that no new 'customers' are coming in their stotre, even to look around ?

 

[Angel Heart]

Oregonian numbers for 1000... They didn't even send a reporter.

Oh and... Does my siggy look like 1000 people? I got more photos just like it. We had anywhere from 5000-7000 people.

If you want to believe the rag they call the Oregonian... Fine... Take it from someone in Oregon, it's a piece of crap paper.

Your "siggy" is using a wide angle camera lens to make things appear bigger than they truly are. What is that? A Canon EOS 5D? That's a cheap one too... I'm sure I can find a better wide angle lens at B&H.

It's only about 70% of the square in it.

BTW The same size crowd was at a Trailblazer rally the next day and the press was saying 10000 where there.

 

[WorldAHope]

Oregonian numbers for 1000... They didn't even send a reporter.

Oh and... Does my siggy look like 1000 people? I got more photos just like it. We had anywhere from 5000-7000 people.

If you want to believe the rag they call the Oregonian... Fine... Take it from someone in Oregon, it's a piece of crap paper.

Your "siggy" is using a wide angle camera lens to make things appear bigger than they truly are. What is that? A Canon EOS 5D? That's a cheap one too... I'm sure I can find a better wide angle lens at B&H.

It's only about 70% of the square in it.

BTW The same size crowd was at a Trailblazer rally the next day and the press was saying 10000 where there.

So a pro basketball team which hasn't got a chance to win the NBA title draws more - 2, 3 x as many
to a spontaneous rally in the same plaza
than the heavily promoted for weeks taxday Tea Party ?
Completely different Demographics ? Or lack of interest in one over the other ?

I'm not siggesting the Tea Partiers should give it up, I'm saying they need to be realistic, businesslike, and not lie to themselves and the rest of the world about the scope and importance and impact of the Tea Parties.
An obvious tossing aside of credibility in order to make a weak point
makes it HARDER to successfully pitch your product in the future.
Assuming that is what the COnservatives are trying to do. Advance their agenda, sell their policies.
No new customers came around. They got the same ones they've always had.

 

[Truthmatters]

That is why the next one is on july 4th.

That way they can group in public areas and claim the 4th celebrators are part of their group.

They need to inflate the numbers for TV.

 

[Angel Heart]

For something that just started we sure have made a wave:

Rasmussen Reports™: The Most Comprehensive Public Opinion Data Anywhere

51% View Tea Parties Favorably, Political Class Strongly Disagrees

Monday, April 20, 2009
Fifty-one percent (51%) of Americans have a favorable view of the “tea parties” held nationwide last week, including 32% who say their view of the events is Very favorable.

Thirty-three percent (33%) hold an unfavorable opinion of the tea parties according to a new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey. Fifteen percent (15%) are not sure.

While half the nation has a favorable opinion of last Wednesday’s events, the nation’s Political Class has a much dimmer view—just 13% of the political elite offered even a somewhat favorable assessment while 81% said the opposite. Among the Political Class, not a single survey respondent said they had a Very Favorable opinion of the events while 60% shared a Very Unfavorable assessment.

More...

We have just begun!!

 

[WorldAHope]

That is why the next one is on july 4th.

That way they can group in public areas and claim the 4th celebrators are part of their group.

They need to inflate the numbers for TV.

Yeah, but they still got nothing to sell. Same old stuff. The party of NO trying to sell America
"NO!"
That 's not a solution or a policy or anything.
America is smarter than to fall for what clearly is like a large scale Used Car dealer showman's gimmick.
They are talking only to each other. Like Detroit Lions fans, clusterring in their sports bars, talking up this next season and their big planes for making it to the Playoffs....winning the Superbowl.
Yadda Yadda Yadda.

 

[wihosa]

Funny how the radical right is trying to pump up the phony tea parties. They keep trying to inflate the numbers. I don't think that it looks like 7000 in the above picture, but even if it was just consider this approximately the same number of people went to baseball games that day.

This was no great movement in it's beginnings, this was a creation of the radical right wing in connection with Repub mouthpiece Fox News and the right wing radio echo chamber.

 

[KittenKoder]

Funny how the radical right is trying to pump up the phony tea parties. They keep trying to inflate the numbers. I don't think that it looks like 7000 in the above picture, but even if it was just consider this approximately the same number of people went to baseball games that day.

This was no great movement in it's beginnings, this was a creation of the radical right wing in connection with Repub mouthpiece Fox News and the right wing radio echo chamber.

No, it's more sad if fewer people showed because then that shows too many people are still just swallowing what they are being told by their leaders. I'm thrilled that the Republican supporters are starting to see that the government is not interested in listening to reason, when will my fellow Democrat supporters do the same thing? I wish you would, really I do.

 

[Angel Heart]

Funny how the radical right is trying to pump up the phony tea parties. They keep trying to inflate the numbers. I don't think that it looks like 7000 in the above picture, but even if it was just consider this approximately the same number of people went to baseball games that day.

This was no great movement in it's beginnings, this was a creation of the radical right wing in connection with Repub mouthpiece Fox News and the right wing radio echo chamber.

If you are trying to pin me as a 'ratical right' you don't know me. Unless you someone's 2nd log in, you just got here this month.

 

[KittenKoder]

Funny how the radical right is trying to pump up the phony tea parties. They keep trying to inflate the numbers. I don't think that it looks like 7000 in the above picture, but even if it was just consider this approximately the same number of people went to baseball games that day.

This was no great movement in it's beginnings, this was a creation of the radical right wing in connection with Repub mouthpiece Fox News and the right wing radio echo chamber.

If you are trying to pin me as a 'ratical right' you don't know me. Unless you someone's 2nd log in, you just got here this month.

Aah .. but you disagreed with them, therefore you must be radical!

 

[Angel Heart]

Funny how the radical right is trying to pump up the phony tea parties. They keep trying to inflate the numbers. I don't think that it looks like 7000 in the above picture, but even if it was just consider this approximately the same number of people went to baseball games that day.

This was no great movement in it's beginnings, this was a creation of the radical right wing in connection with Repub mouthpiece Fox News and the right wing radio echo chamber.

If you are trying to pin me as a 'ratical right' you don't know me. Unless you someone's 2nd log in, you just got here this month.

Aah .. but you disagreed with them, therefore you must be radical!

What they don't like me....

Oh well...

 

[wihosa]

I just counted (used a magnifiying glass) every person I could see in the picture. My count 484. How many do you see?

 

[Yurt]

so the tea parties are supposedly a failure and are fringe...yet the dems are obsessively talking about the tea parties every day, multiple times a day desperately trying to minimize an event that supposedly doesn't need minimizing

 

[wihosa]

so the tea parties are supposedly a failure and are fringe...yet the dems are obsessively talking about the tea parties every day, multiple times a day desperately trying to minimize an event that supposedly doesn't need minimizing

No we're just refuting right wing lies. HOw many do you see in the photo?

 

[KittenKoder]

so the tea parties are supposedly a failure and are fringe...yet the dems are obsessively talking about the tea parties every day, multiple times a day desperately trying to minimize an event that supposedly doesn't need minimizing

No we're just refuting right wing lies. HOw many do you see in the photo?

Really? If we went by photos then those rallies against the war only had about 20 people. Sorry, but you need to get a clue.

 

[wihosa]

so the tea parties are supposedly a failure and are fringe...yet the dems are obsessively talking about the tea parties every day, multiple times a day desperately trying to minimize an event that supposedly doesn't need minimizing

No we're just refuting right wing lies. HOw many do you see in the photo?

Really? If we went by photos then those rallies against the war only had about 20 people. Sorry, but you need to get a clue.

Really? Did you look at the photo of the war protest on the previous page? You could only count 20?

Maybe you ran out of fingers and toes!

 

[Yurt]

so the tea parties are supposedly a failure and are fringe...yet the dems are obsessively talking about the tea parties every day, multiple times a day desperately trying to minimize an event that supposedly doesn't need minimizing

No we're just refuting right wing lies. HOw many do you see in the photo?

what lies?

how cute though that you only count numbers....how many were at the original boston tea party? not many....yet look at the effect it had on american history.

 

[Angel Heart]

so the tea parties are supposedly a failure and are fringe...yet the dems are obsessively talking about the tea parties every day, multiple times a day desperately trying to minimize an event that supposedly doesn't need minimizing

No we're just refuting right wing lies. HOw many do you see in the photo?

what lies?

how cute though that you only count numbers....how many were at the original boston tea party? not many....yet look at the effect it had on american history.

30-130 where part of the original Boston Tea Party.

 

[WorldAHope]

No we're just refuting right wing lies. HOw many do you see in the photo?

Really? If we went by photos then those rallies against the war only had about 20 people. Sorry, but you need to get a clue.

Really? Did you look at the photo of the war protest on the previous page? You could only count 20?

Maybe you ran out of fingers and toes!

Kitten has 12 toes on each paw.
Really Fast typer.

 

[WorldAHope]

so the tea parties are supposedly a failure and are fringe...yet the dems are obsessively talking about the tea parties every day, multiple times a day desperately trying to minimize an event that supposedly doesn't need minimizing

No we're just refuting right wing lies. HOw many do you see in the photo?

what lies?

how cute though that you only count numbers....how many were at the original boston tea party? not many....yet look at the effect it had on american history.

Yurt: You just make stuff up, and don't make the smallest effort to check for supporting facts.

There were over 6,000 Bostonians gathered to portest on Boston's wharfs and docks at the original 1773 Boston Tea Party, out of a total city population of about 13,000, plus the local surroundings. Small city at the time. Lightly populated farmland all around.
Maybe Joe Day or Angelheart were doing the crowd estimates for the colonists.

http://www.eyewitnesstohistory.com/teaparty.htm
In Boston, the arrival of three tea ships ignited a furious reaction. The crisis came to a head on December 16, 1773 when as many as 7,000 agitated locals milled about the wharf where the ships were docked. A mass meeting at the Old South Meeting House that morning resolved that the tea ships should leave the harbor without payment of any duty. A committee was selected to take this message to the Customs House to force release of the ships out of the harbor. The Collector of Customs refused to allow the ships to leave without payment of the duty. Stalemate. The committee reported back to the mass meeting and a howl erupted from the meeting hall. It was now early evening and a group of about 200 men, some disguised as Indians, assembled on a near-by hill. Whopping war chants, the crowd marched two-by-two to the wharf, descended upon the three ships and dumped their offending cargos of tea into the harbor waters.