Jimmah, Tyranny's Enabler

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    Tyranny's Enabler
    By Frank J. Gaffney, Jr., Center for Security Policy
    April 14, 2008

    In point of fact, it seems there is scarcely a serious bad actor on the planet with whom Jimmy Carter has not met. He is a serial tyrant-enabler, the very personification of Rodney King's risible appeal, "Can't we all get along?" Mr. Carter has come to epitomize the notion that "dialogue" is always in order, no matter how odious or dangerous the interlocutor – or the extent to which they or their agendas will benefit from such interactions.

    As Barak Obama (whom Carter has all but endorsed) is as wedded as the former President to the idea of condition-free dialogue with tyrants, it is worth reflecting on just a few of the many example's of how this Carteresque practice has produced disastrous results:

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    Yeah, Jimmy's one scary dude.

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    Lets look more closely at the charges.

    So he undermined...a dictator. Wait, I thought the article was against tyranny?

    Wait...did Carter make the deal? No, but apparently he "gave rise to it". Okkkkk then.

    Patently false, since he performed an audit of the results.

    Again, a lie. As if Chavez needed Carter to hand him victory?
     
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    So how well has the Bush doctrine of just not talking to our enemies worked?

    Hmmm, they are now dealing with Iran.

    To take the fangs away from organizations like Hammas, you force them toward a formalized government. Over time, they will follow the laws because that's how they get what they want.

    Ignore them and they continue to kill folks until they get your attention.

    To England, we were a bunch of terrorists. We didn't even fight fair. We hid behind trees instead of marching on line into battle.
     
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    Oh, here we go with the old, "One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter" argument that the libbies drag up everytime they want to write Hamas a check for some AK47s and C4. Difference is, don't recall any of the people fighting in the Revolution TARGETING women and children.

    Hamas is the perfect example of giving a mouse a cookie and it's going to want a glass of milk. They think they got where they are through force of arms and their great resistance. That's what they teach the kiddies there. Any guess as to how they're going to try to get more changes done?
     
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    There's a difference between dealing with enemies and dealing with criminals. Giving them what they want just enables them further and the demands get larger.

    Who is Jimmy Carter? Hamas wants Israel off the map. Can Jimmy deliver? No.

    And comparing us to Islamic terrorists is just plain bull. We waged war against the English Army. We didn't go to London and indisciminantly blow up housewives and kids.
     
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    Congratulations on your selective memory.

    I "remember" perfectly well the US vaporizing more than 200.000 japanese civilians in order to spare its troops.

    And the country wasn't even fighting for the american homeland like the palestinian people.
     
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    Moron, but then we already knew that. We have had this discussion before.
     
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    As usual, you make comparing apples and oranges the staple of your intellectually dishonest argument.

    What homeland are Palestinians fighting for? WHEN exactly was the last time Palestine existed as an autonomous Nation? Palestine was a state within Transjordan which was in turn subjugated by the Ottoman Empire. There was no "homeland."

    In turn, these Palestinians have waged a war of murder against non-military targets, using suicide bombers and firing missiles indiscriminantly into cities and towns.

    Comparing THAT reprehensible and unacceptable behavior to the US waging a war against another nation that was started by the latter is laughable at best. Even then, both Hiroshima and Nagasaki were major Japanese industrial hubs -- part of the Japanese war effort and as such were legitimate military targets by anyone's standards of war.

    You have no argument.
     
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