Jesus had gay encounter...Missing passages in book of Mark

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Missing passages from book of Mark (highlighted in red) suggest Jesus had a gay encounter.

"Scholars have long wondered at a curious passage in the canonical Gospel of Mark (undisputedly the oldest of the canonical gospels) which seems to hint that a detail or two might have been left out: “Then they came to Jericho. As he was leaving Jericho with his disciples…” (Mark 10:46). But what happened in Jericho on Jesus' whistle-stop tour of the provinces? Did Jesus simply pass through and then leave without doing or saying anything to anyone? If the visit was so irrelevant to Jesus' mission, why is it even mentioned? The gap suggests a mission portion of Mark’s Gospel. The Letter—supplied below--of Clement’s, who had access to the complete version of Mark’s gospel, places the events in Jericho.

Both what is missing and why is supplied by Morton Smith, the Columbia University professor scholar whose 1958 research expedition culminated in the discovery of a copy of a letter in the 1646 edition of letters of Ignatius of Antioch (a 2nd century church writer) at the monastery of Mar Saba, twelve miles south of Jerusalem. The letter consists of 3 pages of Greek manuscript bound in as end-papers. This letter contains quotes from what Saint Clement of Alexandria (c.156-211) refers to as “The Secret Gospel of Mark.” Professor Smith writes, “Based on this letter we can conclude that “The Secret Gospel of Mark” was the older and more complete, and the version we have is an edited version with the troubling passages left out by the Church fathers. The portions supplied by Clement in this letter found by Professor Morton Smith fill in the gap at Mark 10:46.

Morton Smith published his findings in 1973 in two different books: one was a rigorously academic volume from Harvard entitled Clement of Alexandria and a Secret Gospel of Mark, while the second was a popular explanation The Secret Gospel. It is the latter which I have read.

Bishop Clement of Alexandria has 3 surviving books Exhortation to the Greeks, The Instructor, and the Miscellanies, and several fragments and lesser works. One is a letter to a disciple named Theodore who had asked for advice regarding the Caprocratians, (a Gnostic Christian sect) use of the "Secret Gospel of Mark." Clement not only confirmed the existence and authority of "Secret Mark" in his reply, but actually denounced Carpocrates for using black magic to steal a copy "Secret Mark" from the church library!

So scandalous was the Carpocratian "The Secret Gospel of Mark" that Clement advised Theodore never to admit that Mark even wrote it: "You did well in silencing the unspeakable teachings of the Carpocratians. For... priding themselves in knowledge, as they say, "of the deep things of Satan," they do not know that they are casting themselves away into "the nether world of darkness"... For even if they should say something true, one who loves the truth should not, even so, agree with them....

“Now of the things they keep saying about the divinely inspired Gospel of Mark... even if they do contain some true elements, [these] are not reported truly....

“As for Mark then, during Peter's stay in Rome [Mark] wrote an account of the Lord's doings, not, however, declaring all of them, nor yet hinting at the secret ones, but selecting what he thought most useful for increasing the faith of those who were instructed. But when Peter died a martyr, Mark came over to Alexandria, bringing both his own notes and those of Peter, from which he transferred to his former book the things suitable to whatever makes for progress towards knowledge. Thus he composed a more spiritual gospel for the use of those who were being perfected. Nevertheless, he yet did not divulge the things not to be uttered, nor did he write down the hierophantic teaching of the Lord… [and] he left his composition in the church in... Alexandria, where it is... most carefully guarded, being read only by those who are being initiated into the great mysteries.

“But since the foul demons are always devising destruction for the race of men, Carpocrates... using deceitful arts, so enslaved a certain presbyter in the church that he got from a copy of the secret gospel, which he interpreted according to his blasphemous and carnal doctrine....

“To them, therefore, as I said above, one must never give way... [or] even concede that the secret gospel is by Mark... but deny it on oath. For, 'Not all true things are to be said to all men..."

This letter is strong evidence that the Secret Gospel of Mark was in fact the complete version of Mark, and what we have is the edited version by the Church fathers. Barnstone at 340 lists as being visible signs of this editing process Mark 4:ll; 9:25-27; 10:21, 32,38-39; 12:32-34; 14:51-52. What, then, were these "true things" that the Church fathers hoped to hide from the untutored eyes of the average Christian? What was the unspeakable?

St. Clement quotes from this complete, "Secret” Gospel of Mark" at length towards the end of his letter. Clement in the last third of his letter to Theodore wrote: “To you, therefore I shall not hesitate to answer the questions you have asked refuting the falsifications by the very words of the [Secret] Gospel” (Barnstone 342). "And they come into Bethany. And a certain woman whose brother had died was there. And she prostrated herself before Jesus and says to him, ‘Son of David, have mercy on me.’ But the disciples rebuked her. And Jesus, being angered, went off with her unto the garden where the tomb was, and straightway a great cry was heard from the tomb. And going near, Jesus rolled away the stone from the door of the tomb. And straightway, going in where the youth was, he stretched forth his hand and raised him, seizing his hand. But the youth, looking upon him, loved him and began to beseech him that he might be with him. And going out of the tomb they came into the house of the youth, for he was rich. And after six days Jesus told him what to do and in the evening the youth came to him, wearing a linen cloth over his naked body. And he remained with him that night, for Jesus taught him the mystery of the Kingdom of God. And thence, arising, he returned to the other side of the Jordan."

More: JESUS WAS GAY, ACCORDING TO MARK

 

[PostmodernProph]

the funny thing about "missing pages"......they aren't actually there.....

 

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Raises some interesting questions. What if Jesus was gay? How would those who view homosexuality as against God’s design change their position if they learned Jesus was gay? Would Jesus be considered less of a prophet, would his life, death, and resurrection have had less value if he was gay? Would they think less of God for creating his/her only son as a homosexual?

http://thenewforty.areavoices.com/2013/12/31/what-if-jesus-was-gay/

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Jesus brought him back from the dead...so he could have gay sex with him....um, yeah.

 

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It does not say Jesus brought him back from the dead. You're reading too much into it. It simply says a great cry came from the tomb. We do not know who the young lad was, why he was in the tomb, and whether he was related to the woman. He could have been playing hide and seek. lol

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Well we can be fairly certain that if Jesus was gay, he was definitely a top

 

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But regardless what transpired, my question is what if Jesus was gay? How would those who view homosexuality as an abomination change their view? Would Jesus' life, death, and resurrection be any less meaningful. Would he be less a prophet?

 

[hobelim]

It does not say Jesus brought him back from the dead. You're reading too much into it. It simply says a great cry came from the tomb. We do not know who the young lad was, why he was in the tomb, and whether he was related to the woman. He could have been playing hide and seek. lol

LOL.... You are saying that it is reading too much into it that a cry from the tomb might be about the kid being raised from the dead but your not reading into it too much by suggesting that cry from the tomb was what? gay sex? what kind of gay sex? was it a cry of pleasure or pain?

Maybe the kid never saw a grown man naked?

Maybe the tomb was the name of a local hot spot?

Maybe it all amounts to salacious gossip?

 

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it does not say jesus brought him back from the dead. You're reading too much into it. It simply says a great cry came from the tomb. We do not know who the young lad was, why he was in the tomb, and whether he was related to the woman. He could have been playing hide and seek. Lol

lol.... You are saying that it is reading too much into it that a cry from the tomb might be about the kid being raised from the dead but your not reading into it too much by suggesting that cry from the tomb was what? Gay sex? What kind of gay sex? Was it a cry of pleasure or pain?

Maybe the kid never saw a grown man naked?

Maybe the tomb was the name of a local hot spot?

Maybe it all amounts to salacious gossip?

lol You have to read the entire article.

 

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"This passage quoted by Clement from the Gospel, could be interpreted as an account of a baptism preformed by Jesus on this young lad—and some do—but for 3 facts. One that Clement and the Church fathers not only suppressed the passage but found it “scandalous.” Second, the plain meaning of the words “naked man with naked man” and “whom Jesus loved” support the conclusion that Sexual union with a man as part of the sacrament was practiced. Third, that it was a practice of some Christian sects for (like in Tantra Yoga) to engage in sexual intercourse as part of a union with God. Such was said of some Christian communities."

 

[hobelim]

"This passage quoted by Clement from the Gospel, could be interpreted as an account of a baptism preformed by Jesus on this young lad—and some do—but for 3 facts. One that Clement and the Church fathers not only suppressed the passage but found it “scandalous.” Second, the plain meaning of the words “naked man with naked man” and “whom Jesus loved” support the conclusion that Sexual union with a man as part of the sacrament was practiced. Third, that it was a practice of some Christian sects for (like in Tantra Yoga) to engage in sexual intercourse as part of a union with God. Such was said of some Christian communities."

A part of the sacrament? Really?

How does this affect the command to "take this and eat it, this is my body."

What is the laying on of the hands really all about? Praying on your knees? All that wine drinking, celebrating torture and death, and what are those dresses the most holy of all men love to wear all about?

If getting into heaven amounts to going to some secret underground gay, bi, trans, whatever nightclub, and letting it all hang out, a lot more people are going to be there than GISM would like.

 

[Iceweasel]

These and other truths were purged from the records by early homophobes. The entire book of Jesus' gay gladiator half brother was omitted as well.

We read in Gluteous Maximus chapter 87 verse 68:
"Who says tab A goes into slot B? God? No! Those are the words of mortal man!"

 

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"This passage quoted by Clement from the Gospel, could be interpreted as an account of a baptism preformed by Jesus on this young lad—and some do—but for 3 facts. One that Clement and the Church fathers not only suppressed the passage but found it “scandalous.” Second, the plain meaning of the words “naked man with naked man” and “whom Jesus loved” support the conclusion that Sexual union with a man as part of the sacrament was practiced. Third, that it was a practice of some Christian sects for (like in Tantra Yoga) to engage in sexual intercourse as part of a union with God. Such was said of some Christian communities."

A part of the sacrament? Really?

How does this affect the command to "take this and eat it, this is my body."

What is the laying on of the hands really all about? Praying on your knees? All that wine drinking, celebrating torture and death, and what are those dresses the most holy of all men love to wear all about?

If getting into heaven amounts to going to some secret underground gay, bi, trans, whatever nightclub, and letting it all hang out, a lot more people are going to be there than GISM would like.

I am not sure I understand. What does Jesus having a possible gay encounter have to do with praying and drinking and celebrating and torture and death, etc. and getting into heaven? lol

 

[hobelim]

"This passage quoted by Clement from the Gospel, could be interpreted as an account of a baptism preformed by Jesus on this young lad—and some do—but for 3 facts. One that Clement and the Church fathers not only suppressed the passage but found it “scandalous.” Second, the plain meaning of the words “naked man with naked man” and “whom Jesus loved” support the conclusion that Sexual union with a man as part of the sacrament was practiced. Third, that it was a practice of some Christian sects for (like in Tantra Yoga) to engage in sexual intercourse as part of a union with God. Such was said of some Christian communities."

A part of the sacrament? Really?

How does this affect the command to "take this and eat it, this is my body."

What is the laying on of the hands really all about? Praying on your knees? All that wine drinking, celebrating torture and death, and what are those dresses the most holy of all men love to wear all about?

If getting into heaven amounts to going to some secret underground gay, bi, trans, whatever nightclub, and letting it all hang out, a lot more people are going to be there than GISM would like.

I am not sure I understand. What does Jesus having a possible gay encounter have to do with praying and drinking and celebrating and torture and death, etc. and getting into heaven? lol

lol.... hey, what do you mean you don't understand? you are the one who brought it up.

"Second, the plain meaning of the words “naked man with naked man” and “whom Jesus loved” support the conclusion that Sexual union with a man as part of the sacrament was practiced. "


what sacrament would that be a part of? Laying on of the hands? Joining the congregation? Being filled with the holy spirit? ecstatic utterance?

Does any of this have anything to do with Jesus being the sower of the good seed?

 

[Howey]

Jesus had long hair, wore a dress, had a mother complex, never dated, and hung around guys named Matthew , Mark, and Luke.


Ya think????

 

[GISMYS]

Jesus had long hair, wore a dress, had a mother complex, never dated, and hung around guys named Matthew , Mark, and Luke.


Ya think????

I Think you may get to read your last post again on your final judgment day,just before you hear the sad words=depart from into hell,Inever knew you!!

 

[JakeStarkey]

"What if Jesus were gay" has no more relevance to anything than the "What if Obama were born elsewhere".

Both are false accusations undocumented by rigorous, critically evaluated evidence.

Please, no homers need apply.

 

[PostmodernProph]

You're reading too much into it.

lol....HE'S reading too much into it?......you take a passage that doesn't even exist, claim that it means Jesus could be gay and then complain that HE'S reading too much into it?........

 

[PostmodernProph]

These and other truths were purged from the records by early homophobes. The entire book of Jesus' gay gladiator half brother was omitted as well.

lol....no, they were made up whole cloth by gay apologists......

 

[The Irish Ram]

Raises some interesting questions. What if Jesus was gay? How would those who view homosexuality as against God’s design change their position if they learned Jesus was gay? Would Jesus be considered less of a prophet, would his life, death, and resurrection have had less value if he was gay? Would they think less of God for creating his/her only son as a homosexual?

What if Jesus was gay? | The New Forty

Since Christ was without sin when He was hung on the cross, I didn't even need to read your post to know it's garbage. Sex outside of marriage was a sin.