James Holmes, Insane?

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    For somebody to do something like that, wouldn't they almost have to be insane? I know the man is brilliant, and that can be just one tippy-toe removed from unhinged. Do you think that's the case here, and should his attorney shoot for an insanity plea?

    In other words, how can he have done what he did and be sane.
     
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    In the sense that only an insane person could do such a thing yes... in the sense he didnt know better... HELL NO!!!
    He knew waht he was doing.... evil assclown.

    He needs to pay the ultimate price.

    Plus, his damn lawyers need to stop drugging him... my opinion, but he is being drugged for affect
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    Of course he's insane. This wasn't a case of someone's greed or ambition overriding their moral compass. He obviously, tragically, came unhinged somewhere along the line.
     
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    That's my perception. And at this early stage of the game, I see a difference between Manson (who I do perceive to be evil), and this guy.
     
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    There is no definition of "insanity" in the DSM-IV TR.

    In states where the burden of proof is on the defense to prove insanity, the defense is required to show either clear and convincing evidence or a preponderance of the evidence that the defendant is insane.

    In states where the burden is still on prosecutors to prove sanity, they are required to prove it BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT.

    I don't know which side has the burden in Colorado.
     
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    take his ass out back and pop a cap in dat head.
     
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    Depending that he was top of his class in high school and college and was enrolled in a pretty difficult program, I think that there was some sort of underlying mental disorder. No sane person would suddenly drop out and shoot up a movie theater. And the fact that he had been seeing a psychiatrist makes us wonder if there were some mental illness that this man was dealing with. There's a lot of things that we can only speculate about, but of which we will discover more about as the case unravels.
     
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    No.
     
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    My wife says he either developed schizophrenia disorder (it presents at that age) or he's a sociopath. Either way she says he should never, ever breath open air again. And being the liberal she is, even she says the death penalty, if he's a sociopath, is not inapropriate.
     
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    Soon you'll have the DSM 5 and it lowers the criteria for all sorts of disorders. My wife feels it's ridiculous, with the DSM 5 almost anyone will be classifiable with some sort of disorder.
     

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