Jake Tapper debunks Trump's 'wall of lies'

[Harry Dresden]

You know, while there are drugs coming through the southern border, they aren't crossing through the desert.....................they are coming in via tunnels under the border, or they are coming in via paid mules who transport it in vehicles or semi trucks. Cartels don't use immigrants migrating from Central America that they know nothing about, they use mules who they already know where their family is, so that if the shipment doesn't make it, they can go after their relatives.

As far as terrorists coming into the country? Well, they caught around 3,700 of them last year trying to enter the country who were on a watch list, but only 12 were caught trying to cross the southern border illegally. The other almost 3,700 were caught when they landed at international airports here in the USA.

As far as trying to scare people with fentanyl and the overdoses associated with it? You guys do realize that stuff is made in China, and comes in via ships and the mail, right? It isn't shipped to Mexico to have migrants bring it across the border.

You guys gotta stop with the fear mongering. It's clouding your judgement.

tell that to the democrats too ABS ....they do their share of fear mongering too....

 

[cnm]

We caught 12 terrorists.

As soon as Trumpeters start playing with numbers one may as well run screaming for the hills. Screaming.

 

[80zephyr]

So, just deflection. Typical.

Mark

 

[cnm]

To unsourced Trumpeter numbers bullshit? Better than trying to keep the spatter off.

 

[cnm]

What was it, 6 from Mexico, 41 from Canada?

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*Tip o' the hat to Kaykan

 

[Winston]

Interesting.

Sad...and interesting.

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This is true. They actually criticized Trump for saying things that are true. Washington Post: “Fact-checking Trump’s address: ‘266,000 aliens arrested in the past two years.’ The number is right but misleading.” That’s the fact check. “The number is right but misleading. It’s important to keep in mind that this figure includes all types of crimes, including nonviolent offenses such as illegal entry or reentry.”

So they characterize Trump’s claim as factual, as misleading because the figure includes all types of crimes. Who in the world could make this up? That’s a fact check? They fact check and they found out his right but it’s misleading because it’s all crime. It further makes Trump’s point, in other words. They’re claiming Trump undersold his point! And it wasn’t the only fact check of that nature. - Rush

The number is misleading dipshit. He used it in the context of "murderers and rapists" when the number includes jaywalkers and speeders. Here is a "statistic" for you, aliens commit crimes at a lower rate than native Americans.

Now who is spreading fake news? Tell me, do ILLEGALS have a lower crime rate then native Americans?

Mark

Yes, native Americans commit crimes at a greater rate than ILLEGAL aliens. You do know that being in the country illegally is not a crime, but a civil violation, something akin to a speeding ticket. I mean we have been through this before, don't act like you do not remember.

 

[Winston]

You know, while there are drugs coming through the southern border, they aren't crossing through the desert.....................they are coming in via tunnels under the border, or they are coming in via paid mules who transport it in vehicles or semi trucks. Cartels don't use immigrants migrating from Central America that they know nothing about, they use mules who they already know where their family is, so that if the shipment doesn't make it, they can go after their relatives.

As far as terrorists coming into the country? Well, they caught around 3,700 of them last year trying to enter the country who were on a watch list, but only 12 were caught trying to cross the southern border illegally. The other almost 3,700 were caught when they landed at international airports here in the USA.

As far as trying to scare people with fentanyl and the overdoses associated with it? You guys do realize that stuff is made in China, and comes in via ships and the mail, right? It isn't shipped to Mexico to have migrants bring it across the border.

You guys gotta stop with the fear mongering. It's clouding your judgement.

We caught 12 terrorists. How many got thru? Also, how many terrorists do you need to kill thousands of people? 9/11 ring any bells?

Mark

Would a wall have stopped a single one of the 9/11 hijackers?

 

[cnm]

U.S. Customs and Border Protection encountered only six immigrants on the U.S.-Mexico border whose names were in a federal database of known or suspected terrorists, contradicting earlier White House claims that nearly 4,000 suspected terrorists were stopped at the country’s southern border.

The disclosure, made by Secretary of Homeland Security Kirstjen Nielsen Monday and first reported by NBC News, concerned only the first half of 2018. Of 41 people stopped at the U.S.-Mexico border by the CBP in that period, 35 were U.S. citizens or lawful permanent residents, with the other six classified as non-residents.

By contrast, the CBP encountered 91 people at the U.S.-Canada border whose names were on the federal list, with 41 of them non-U.S. citizens or residents, NBC said.
http://fortune.com​

 

[cnm]

Now who is spreading fake news? Tell me, do ILLEGALS have a lower crime rate then native Americans?

Yes, native Americans commit crimes at a greater rate than ILLEGAL aliens. You do know that being in the country illegally is not a crime, but a civil violation, something akin to a speeding ticket. I mean we have been through this before, don't act like you do not remember.

C'mon, be fair, his position depends on not remembering...

 

[Winston]

U.S. Customs and Border Protection encountered only six immigrants on the U.S.-Mexico border whose names were in a federal database of known or suspected terrorists, contradicting earlier White House claims that nearly 4,000 suspected terrorists were stopped at the country’s southern border.

The disclosure, made by Secretary of Homeland Security Kirstjen Nielsen Monday and first reported by NBC News, concerned only the first half of 2018. Of 41 people stopped at the U.S.-Mexico border by the CBP in that period, 35 were U.S. citizens or lawful permanent residents, with the other six classified as non-residents.

By contrast, the CBP encountered 91 people at the U.S.-Canada border whose names were on the federal list, with 41 of them non-U.S. citizens or residents, NBC said.
http://fortune.com​

Any terrorist worth two shits knows you come in to the United States via Canada. Hell, I believe they even say as much on their recruitment websites.

 

[80zephyr]

Interesting.

Sad...and interesting.

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This is true. They actually criticized Trump for saying things that are true. Washington Post: “Fact-checking Trump’s address: ‘266,000 aliens arrested in the past two years.’ The number is right but misleading.” That’s the fact check. “The number is right but misleading. It’s important to keep in mind that this figure includes all types of crimes, including nonviolent offenses such as illegal entry or reentry.”

So they characterize Trump’s claim as factual, as misleading because the figure includes all types of crimes. Who in the world could make this up? That’s a fact check? They fact check and they found out his right but it’s misleading because it’s all crime. It further makes Trump’s point, in other words. They’re claiming Trump undersold his point! And it wasn’t the only fact check of that nature. - Rush

The number is misleading dipshit. He used it in the context of "murderers and rapists" when the number includes jaywalkers and speeders. Here is a "statistic" for you, aliens commit crimes at a lower rate than native Americans.

Now who is spreading fake news? Tell me, do ILLEGALS have a lower crime rate then native Americans?

Mark

Yes, native Americans commit crimes at a greater rate than ILLEGAL aliens. You do know that being in the country illegally is not a crime, but a civil violation, something akin to a speeding ticket. I mean we have been through this before, don't act like you do not remember.

Illegal Aliens Murder at a Much Higher Rate Than US Citizens Do

Mark

 

[80zephyr]

You know, while there are drugs coming through the southern border, they aren't crossing through the desert.....................they are coming in via tunnels under the border, or they are coming in via paid mules who transport it in vehicles or semi trucks. Cartels don't use immigrants migrating from Central America that they know nothing about, they use mules who they already know where their family is, so that if the shipment doesn't make it, they can go after their relatives.

As far as terrorists coming into the country? Well, they caught around 3,700 of them last year trying to enter the country who were on a watch list, but only 12 were caught trying to cross the southern border illegally. The other almost 3,700 were caught when they landed at international airports here in the USA.

As far as trying to scare people with fentanyl and the overdoses associated with it? You guys do realize that stuff is made in China, and comes in via ships and the mail, right? It isn't shipped to Mexico to have migrants bring it across the border.

You guys gotta stop with the fear mongering. It's clouding your judgement.

We caught 12 terrorists. How many got thru? Also, how many terrorists do you need to kill thousands of people? 9/11 ring any bells?

Mark

Would a wall have stopped a single one of the 9/11 hijackers?

Immaterial. Did the US capture 12 terrorists at the southern border or not?

Mark

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Jake Tapper has been busted for lies, misinformation, half truths, and being a partisan hack. He debunked nothing.

 

[Winston]

You know, while there are drugs coming through the southern border, they aren't crossing through the desert.....................they are coming in via tunnels under the border, or they are coming in via paid mules who transport it in vehicles or semi trucks. Cartels don't use immigrants migrating from Central America that they know nothing about, they use mules who they already know where their family is, so that if the shipment doesn't make it, they can go after their relatives.

As far as terrorists coming into the country? Well, they caught around 3,700 of them last year trying to enter the country who were on a watch list, but only 12 were caught trying to cross the southern border illegally. The other almost 3,700 were caught when they landed at international airports here in the USA.

As far as trying to scare people with fentanyl and the overdoses associated with it? You guys do realize that stuff is made in China, and comes in via ships and the mail, right? It isn't shipped to Mexico to have migrants bring it across the border.

You guys gotta stop with the fear mongering. It's clouding your judgement.

We caught 12 terrorists. How many got thru? Also, how many terrorists do you need to kill thousands of people? 9/11 ring any bells?

Mark

Would a wall have stopped a single one of the 9/11 hijackers?

Immaterial. Did the US capture 12 terrorists at the southern border or not?

Mark

How many they capture at the northern border? Why is Trump not asking to build a wall there, where MORE terrorists come in? And yes, it is very material. If a wall would not have stopped the 9/11 terrorists just what terrorists would it stop? Not a very determined one, that is for damn sure.

 

[Winston]

Interesting.

Sad...and interesting.

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This is true. They actually criticized Trump for saying things that are true. Washington Post: “Fact-checking Trump’s address: ‘266,000 aliens arrested in the past two years.’ The number is right but misleading.” That’s the fact check. “The number is right but misleading. It’s important to keep in mind that this figure includes all types of crimes, including nonviolent offenses such as illegal entry or reentry.”

So they characterize Trump’s claim as factual, as misleading because the figure includes all types of crimes. Who in the world could make this up? That’s a fact check? They fact check and they found out his right but it’s misleading because it’s all crime. It further makes Trump’s point, in other words. They’re claiming Trump undersold his point! And it wasn’t the only fact check of that nature. - Rush

The number is misleading dipshit. He used it in the context of "murderers and rapists" when the number includes jaywalkers and speeders. Here is a "statistic" for you, aliens commit crimes at a lower rate than native Americans.

Now who is spreading fake news? Tell me, do ILLEGALS have a lower crime rate then native Americans?

Mark

Yes, native Americans commit crimes at a greater rate than ILLEGAL aliens. You do know that being in the country illegally is not a crime, but a civil violation, something akin to a speeding ticket. I mean we have been through this before, don't act like you do not remember.

Illegal Aliens Murder at a Much Higher Rate Than US Citizens Do

Mark

Sorry, but your source sucks and he is interchanging the murder rate, that is the number of murders for a given population, and the murderer rate, the number of murderers in a given population. All kinds of things wrong with that which makes the numbers absolutely meaningless. For instance, what if we looked at the murderer rate for native black males between the age of 18 and 40. I bet those numbers would be through the roof and easily eclipse the numbers your source has contrived.

 

[Thinker101]

You know, while there are drugs coming through the southern border, they aren't crossing through the desert.....................they are coming in via tunnels under the border, or they are coming in via paid mules who transport it in vehicles or semi trucks. Cartels don't use immigrants migrating from Central America that they know nothing about, they use mules who they already know where their family is, so that if the shipment doesn't make it, they can go after their relatives.

As far as terrorists coming into the country? Well, they caught around 3,700 of them last year trying to enter the country who were on a watch list, but only 12 were caught trying to cross the southern border illegally. The other almost 3,700 were caught when they landed at international airports here in the USA.

As far as trying to scare people with fentanyl and the overdoses associated with it? You guys do realize that stuff is made in China, and comes in via ships and the mail, right? It isn't shipped to Mexico to have migrants bring it across the border.

You guys gotta stop with the fear mongering. It's clouding your judgement.

We caught 12 terrorists. How many got thru? Also, how many terrorists do you need to kill thousands of people? 9/11 ring any bells?

Mark

Would a wall have stopped a single one of the 9/11 hijackers?

Who knows? A wall may have stopped a number of illegals from murdering or raping Americans...dumbass.

 

[80zephyr]

You know, while there are drugs coming through the southern border, they aren't crossing through the desert.....................they are coming in via tunnels under the border, or they are coming in via paid mules who transport it in vehicles or semi trucks. Cartels don't use immigrants migrating from Central America that they know nothing about, they use mules who they already know where their family is, so that if the shipment doesn't make it, they can go after their relatives.

As far as terrorists coming into the country? Well, they caught around 3,700 of them last year trying to enter the country who were on a watch list, but only 12 were caught trying to cross the southern border illegally. The other almost 3,700 were caught when they landed at international airports here in the USA.

As far as trying to scare people with fentanyl and the overdoses associated with it? You guys do realize that stuff is made in China, and comes in via ships and the mail, right? It isn't shipped to Mexico to have migrants bring it across the border.

You guys gotta stop with the fear mongering. It's clouding your judgement.

We caught 12 terrorists. How many got thru? Also, how many terrorists do you need to kill thousands of people? 9/11 ring any bells?

Mark

Would a wall have stopped a single one of the 9/11 hijackers?

Immaterial. Did the US capture 12 terrorists at the southern border or not?

Mark

How many they capture at the northern border? Why is Trump not asking to build a wall there, where MORE terrorists come in? And yes, it is very material. If a wall would not have stopped the 9/11 terrorists just what terrorists would it stop? Not a very determined one, that is for damn sure.

Are you calling for a wall on our northern border as well?

And if not, why not?

Mark

 

[80zephyr]

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This is true. They actually criticized Trump for saying things that are true. Washington Post: “Fact-checking Trump’s address: ‘266,000 aliens arrested in the past two years.’ The number is right but misleading.” That’s the fact check. “The number is right but misleading. It’s important to keep in mind that this figure includes all types of crimes, including nonviolent offenses such as illegal entry or reentry.”

So they characterize Trump’s claim as factual, as misleading because the figure includes all types of crimes. Who in the world could make this up? That’s a fact check? They fact check and they found out his right but it’s misleading because it’s all crime. It further makes Trump’s point, in other words. They’re claiming Trump undersold his point! And it wasn’t the only fact check of that nature. - Rush

The number is misleading dipshit. He used it in the context of "murderers and rapists" when the number includes jaywalkers and speeders. Here is a "statistic" for you, aliens commit crimes at a lower rate than native Americans.

Now who is spreading fake news? Tell me, do ILLEGALS have a lower crime rate then native Americans?

Mark

Yes, native Americans commit crimes at a greater rate than ILLEGAL aliens. You do know that being in the country illegally is not a crime, but a civil violation, something akin to a speeding ticket. I mean we have been through this before, don't act like you do not remember.

Illegal Aliens Murder at a Much Higher Rate Than US Citizens Do

Mark

Sorry, but your source sucks and he is interchanging the murder rate, that is the number of murders for a given population, and the murderer rate, the number of murderers in a given population. All kinds of things wrong with that which makes the numbers absolutely meaningless. For instance, what if we looked at the murderer rate for native black males between the age of 18 and 40. I bet those numbers would be through the roof and easily eclipse the numbers your source has contrived.

Lets say you are right about the black men, so what? They are our citizens, and our country is responsible for them. We are not responsible for other countries criminals.

Mark

 

[Winston]

You know, while there are drugs coming through the southern border, they aren't crossing through the desert.....................they are coming in via tunnels under the border, or they are coming in via paid mules who transport it in vehicles or semi trucks. Cartels don't use immigrants migrating from Central America that they know nothing about, they use mules who they already know where their family is, so that if the shipment doesn't make it, they can go after their relatives.

As far as terrorists coming into the country? Well, they caught around 3,700 of them last year trying to enter the country who were on a watch list, but only 12 were caught trying to cross the southern border illegally. The other almost 3,700 were caught when they landed at international airports here in the USA.

As far as trying to scare people with fentanyl and the overdoses associated with it? You guys do realize that stuff is made in China, and comes in via ships and the mail, right? It isn't shipped to Mexico to have migrants bring it across the border.

You guys gotta stop with the fear mongering. It's clouding your judgement.

We caught 12 terrorists. How many got thru? Also, how many terrorists do you need to kill thousands of people? 9/11 ring any bells?

Mark

Would a wall have stopped a single one of the 9/11 hijackers?

Who knows? A wall may have stopped a number of illegals from murdering or raping Americans...dumbass.

At 24 million dollars per mile "who knows" is not going to cut it.

 

[Winston]

The number is misleading dipshit. He used it in the context of "murderers and rapists" when the number includes jaywalkers and speeders. Here is a "statistic" for you, aliens commit crimes at a lower rate than native Americans.

Now who is spreading fake news? Tell me, do ILLEGALS have a lower crime rate then native Americans?

Mark

Yes, native Americans commit crimes at a greater rate than ILLEGAL aliens. You do know that being in the country illegally is not a crime, but a civil violation, something akin to a speeding ticket. I mean we have been through this before, don't act like you do not remember.

Illegal Aliens Murder at a Much Higher Rate Than US Citizens Do

Mark

Sorry, but your source sucks and he is interchanging the murder rate, that is the number of murders for a given population, and the murderer rate, the number of murderers in a given population. All kinds of things wrong with that which makes the numbers absolutely meaningless. For instance, what if we looked at the murderer rate for native black males between the age of 18 and 40. I bet those numbers would be through the roof and easily eclipse the numbers your source has contrived.

Lets say you are right about the black men, so what? They are our citizens, and our country is responsible for them. We are not responsible for other countries criminals.

Mark

So we are responsible for the murderers but not the murdered. You really want to run with that