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Oh STFU...
It is a story based on an unlikely worst case scenario EMP attack on the U.S.
What made this book get discussed so much wasn't the reality or accuracy of the EMP attack. What caught people's attention was the extraordinary number of deaths that happened and the fact the author sourced those numbers.
It got people to talk... Gee.. would those kind of numbers of people really die if, for whatever reason, there was a large scale loss of power?
And the answer from all kinds of experts was - yes. They would preface that by saying the event itself (massive EMP attack) is very unlikely to succeed.. but if other events took place - namely - severe solar event... we would be very fucked. And it doesn't take a genius to think for more than 20 seconds as to why such high number of people would die.
You mean an NEMP attack ... and even that doesn't have the energy or power to do what you seem to be gullible enough to believe ... nor is it designed to ...
Yeah ... another thing that would fuck everyone is an NEMP attack at the same time as The Big Rip ... duh ...
Motto for Astroquacks: "If It's Weird, It's Wise"Oh STFU...
It is a story based on an unlikely worst case scenario EMP attack on the U.S.
What made this book get discussed so much wasn't the reality or accuracy of the EMP attack. What caught people's attention was the extraordinary number of deaths that happened and the fact the author sourced those numbers.
It got people to talk... Gee.. would those kind of numbers of people really die if, for whatever reason, there was a large scale loss of power?
And the answer from all kinds of experts was - yes. They would preface that by saying the event itself (massive EMP attack) is very unlikely to succeed.. but if other events took place - namely - severe solar event... we would be very fucked. And it doesn't take a genius to think for more than 20 seconds as to why such high number of people would die.
Okay.... thanks for your input on movies..Motto for Astroquacks: "If It's Weird, It's Wise"
How much would Hollywood pay for that disaster scenario? Big bucks for sensationalist scripts is what motivates goofy geeks today.
Motto for Astroquacks: "If It's Weird, It's Wise"
How much would Hollywood pay for that disaster scenario? Big bucks for sensationalist scripts is what motivates goofy geeks today.
"If You Have a Taste for Terror, Take Carrie to the Prom"Obvious knock-off of a Stephen King novel ...
Yes, this will happen, it is only a matter of time. Will it take down the power grid? It depends on two factors, the strength of the CME, and the strength of the Earth's own magnetic field.When the sun hits Earth with a big solar flare and CME, the electrical grid could be irreparable damaged. Experts think this could be coming in our life time. Sending mankind back to a pre-electrical age, resulting in mass death.
This has been known for a long time but until recently, the msm hasn’t reported it.
Solar Cycle 25 is Exceeding Predictions and Showing Why We Need the GDC Mission
With more activity comes an increase in space weather events including solar flares and solar eruptions, which can impact radio communications, electric power grids, and navigation signals, as well as pose risks to spacecraft and astronauts. We have an increasing dependence on space-based technology and ground-based infrastructure that are susceptible to the dynamic nature of space.
Solar Cycle 25
Solar eruptions, flares could impact Earth, NASA says
Solar eruptions, flares could impact Earth, NASA says
I notice, when you were asked to link your thread, you did not. I remember when you posted that thread. I personally did not mock you. IN fact, I personally, thought you were entirely too optimistic about our potential outcome, should one hit. You, as usual, were using it as a platform to push your green energy agenda.LOL I posted a thread on the possibility of a Carrington Event some time ago, and all you dumb fucks made fun of it. Yes, such an event is a definite possibility. However, while it's effects would be severe, it would not be the end of the world, and I expect that we would muddle through it. But all of you silly asses that are hoping for Armageddon believing that somehow your silly beliefs would allow you to profit will find that is simply another one of your fantasies.
There is more here to this issue, than just CME ejections. As long as the Earth's Magnetic field strength remains strong? We will probably be able to withstand, or indeed, recover from most CMEs. We had learned some valuable lessons from the Carrington Event, and the CME of 1989.Well ... it's been ten years ... the probability of a big CME turns out to have been ZERO % ... no surprise there ... fear-mongering at it's ugliest ... do these people really think the readers are this stupid ... this insults the intelligence ... "physicist Pete Riley of Predictive Science Inc. published a paper in Space Weather" ... no link? ... let's get this straight ... Mr Riley looked at the past 50 years of data and concluded a 1 in 8 chance for a Big CME ... that's means he found 6 CMEs that hit Earth in those fifty years ... 12% ... and you believe him? ... [shakes head] ...
The next violation of common sense is damaged caused ... ships at sea aren't effected because they're grounded through the ocean water ... people, pets, homes, businesses, schools and hospitals are also grounded, so no effect ... what wasn't grounded in 1854?, telegraph wires ... and for the most part, these wires picked up enough charge to run without the operators spining the rheostats ... only in a few places were there fires or damage ... the system never went down ... operators were able to quickly install spare equipment ...
That was then and this is now ... today we have far more overhead wires and we have come to depend on these wires more than 170 years ago ... at least some of us have ... a good 20% of us don't even have an electric grid and no electricity in our homes or businesses ... 50% of us have such piss-poor service that we can't rely on the grid to begin with ... another 20% who have only recently received such modern invention and have yet to come to depend on the grid ...
That leaves the 10% in Anglo-America and Western Europe who would suffer ... [shrugs shoulders] ... hardly the existential threat some imagine this will be ... and with the 24 hour warning, really only Texas is stupid enough to not open their breakers and set everything to Earth ground ...
You think CMEs won’t do damage. Proof you’re uninformed.
According to my research, it would require a super large solar flare and CME to take out the country’s entire grid or most of it. If the earth’s magnetic field is weakening as experts claim, we become more exposed as it weakens. Of course if government and energy companies are really doing things to protect the grid, the damage might be minimized.
Without electricity for a several month period, millions dying seems likely.
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cosmosmagazine.com
Yes, this will happen, it is only a matter of time. Will it take down the power grid? It depends on two factors, the strength of the CME, and the strength of the Earth's own magnetic field.
Did you not state earlier CMEs do not have the potential to harm the power grid?The direction of the CME is important, most will miss the Earth completely ... and even if the CME does hit, it has to be the correct phase angle or it won't have much of an effect ... just tripping breakers like in 1989 ...
These are not casual errors ... maybe you shouldn't be calling others ignorant in these matters ... it is a matter of fact that we didn't see a civilization-destroying CME event in the ten year period in question ... you disagree with this basic fact? ...
He makes statements that he refuses to back up.From NOAA's Space Weather Twitter feed
NOAA Space Weather
@NWSSWPC
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3-Day Forecast Issued 2022 Aug 18 1230 UTC:
The greatest expected 3 hr Kp for Aug 18-Aug 20 2022 is 7 (NOAA Scale G3).
S1 or greater: 10%, 10%, 10%. R1-R2: 40%, 40%, 40%.
R3 or greater: 10%, 10%, 10%.
https://go.usa.gov/xQg9R
That doesn't look like "most will miss the Earth completely".
maybe you shouldn't be calling others ignorant in these matters
Did you not state earlier CMEs do not have the potential to harm the power grid?
Who stated we did see a civilization destroying CME in the ten year period in question?
You think CMEs won’t do damage. Proof you’re uninformed.
Agreed.
First? I never called you, or anyone in this thread, necessarily ignorant.
Fuck you ... what part of :
"The next violation of common sense is damaged caused ... ships at sea aren't effected because they're grounded through the ocean water ... people, pets, homes, businesses, schools and hospitals are also grounded, so no effect ... what wasn't grounded in 1854?, telegraph wires ... and for the most part, these wires picked up enough charge to run without the operators spining the rheostats ... only in a few places were there fires or damage ... the system never went down ... operators were able to quickly install spare equipment ...
That was then and this is now ... today we have far more overhead wires and we have come to depend on these wires more than 170 years ago ... at least some of us have ... a good 20% of us don't even have an electric grid and no electricity in our homes or businesses ... 50% of us have such piss-poor service that we can't rely on the grid to begin with ... another 20% who have only recently received such modern invention and have yet to come to depend on the grid ...
That leaves the 10% in Anglo-America and Western Europe who would suffer ... [shrugs shoulders] ... hardly the existential threat some imagine this will be ... and with the 24 hour warning, really only Texas is stupid enough to not open their breakers and set everything to Earth ground ..."
do you think is "uninformed" ... and where the hell do I say CMEs are harmless? ... gipper doesn't know what a rheostat is, do you? ...
Apparently you’ve led a sheltered life.First? I never called you, or anyone in this thread, necessarily ignorant.
Fuck you ... what part of :
"The next violation of common sense is damaged caused ... ships at sea aren't effected because they're grounded through the ocean water ... people, pets, homes, businesses, schools and hospitals are also grounded, so no effect ... what wasn't grounded in 1854?, telegraph wires ... and for the most part, these wires picked up enough charge to run without the operators spining the rheostats ... only in a few places were there fires or damage ... the system never went down ... operators were able to quickly install spare equipment ...
That was then and this is now ... today we have far more overhead wires and we have come to depend on these wires more than 170 years ago ... at least some of us have ... a good 20% of us don't even have an electric grid and no electricity in our homes or businesses ... 50% of us have such piss-poor service that we can't rely on the grid to begin with ... another 20% who have only recently received such modern invention and have yet to come to depend on the grid ...
That leaves the 10% in Anglo-America and Western Europe who would suffer ... [shrugs shoulders] ... hardly the existential threat some imagine this will be ... and with the 24 hour warning, really only Texas is stupid enough to not open their breakers and set everything to Earth ground ..."
do you think is "uninformed" ... and where the hell do I say CMEs are harmless? ... gipper doesn't know what a rheostat is, do you? ...
PS…a lot more people live in China and India than North Carolina. Just sayin’.First? I never called you, or anyone in this thread, necessarily ignorant.
Fuck you ... what part of :
"The next violation of common sense is damaged caused ... ships at sea aren't effected because they're grounded through the ocean water ... people, pets, homes, businesses, schools and hospitals are also grounded, so no effect ... what wasn't grounded in 1854?, telegraph wires ... and for the most part, these wires picked up enough charge to run without the operators spining the rheostats ... only in a few places were there fires or damage ... the system never went down ... operators were able to quickly install spare equipment ...
That was then and this is now ... today we have far more overhead wires and we have come to depend on these wires more than 170 years ago ... at least some of us have ... a good 20% of us don't even have an electric grid and no electricity in our homes or businesses ... 50% of us have such piss-poor service that we can't rely on the grid to begin with ... another 20% who have only recently received such modern invention and have yet to come to depend on the grid ...
That leaves the 10% in Anglo-America and Western Europe who would suffer ... [shrugs shoulders] ... hardly the existential threat some imagine this will be ... and with the 24 hour warning, really only Texas is stupid enough to not open their breakers and set everything to Earth ground ..."
do you think is "uninformed" ... and where the hell do I say CMEs are harmless? ... gipper doesn't know what a rheostat is, do you? ...
I feel like you a purposely ignoring what I am writing, and not addressing the elephant in the room.First? I never called you, or anyone in this thread, necessarily ignorant.
Fuck you ... what part of :
"The next violation of common sense is damaged caused ... ships at sea aren't effected because they're grounded through the ocean water ... people, pets, homes, businesses, schools and hospitals are also grounded, so no effect ... what wasn't grounded in 1854?, telegraph wires ... and for the most part, these wires picked up enough charge to run without the operators spining the rheostats ... only in a few places were there fires or damage ... the system never went down ... operators were able to quickly install spare equipment ...
That was then and this is now ... today we have far more overhead wires and we have come to depend on these wires more than 170 years ago ... at least some of us have ... a good 20% of us don't even have an electric grid and no electricity in our homes or businesses ... 50% of us have such piss-poor service that we can't rely on the grid to begin with ... another 20% who have only recently received such modern invention and have yet to come to depend on the grid ...
That leaves the 10% in Anglo-America and Western Europe who would suffer ... [shrugs shoulders] ... hardly the existential threat some imagine this will be ... and with the 24 hour warning, really only Texas is stupid enough to not open their breakers and set everything to Earth ground ..."
do you think is "uninformed" ... and where the hell do I say CMEs are harmless? ... gipper doesn't know what a rheostat is, do you? ...
So? Why are you bringing up, "reostats?" Any event that is cataclysmic enough to affect our very genome, and alter our biological evolution, is certainly going to royally screw up society, and every technology not made of stone.We had learned some valuable lessons from the Carrington Event, and the CME of 1989.
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