It isn't your grandfather's LEFT anymore

[The Sage of Main Street]

Communism is a stateless state.

Whither Went Lenin's Wither?

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

There are elements of fascism in all of that for sure, at least if we go with the most popular definition/elements of fascism. But somebody once said trying to define fascism is like trying to nail jelly to a wall. Mussolini or Hitler style fascism is to empower and exalt the nation for the purpose of subjecting all others nations to the 'motherland.'

Our American leftists these days seem to want America weak, divided, vulnerable, and to subject it to the will of the New World Order i.e. one world government. I am pretty sure their open borders policies, emasculation/cultural shift to 'wokeism' in the military and transferring police powers to social workers and negotiators is all a part of that larger goal.

Preppy Progressives

Because no one recognizes what class the Leftist leaders and enablers come from, they continue to dominate from sheltered hideouts. Their Daddies told them they were Born to Rule; any doctrine that offers absolute rule under the pretense of absolute and final truth is what motivates their devotion to it. So it is hard to define their ideologies because that's all empty talk to distract and confuse people who think analyzing such insincere rambling is important.

 

[Foxfyre]

Preppy Progressives

Because no one recognizes what class the Leftist leaders and enablers come from, they continue to dominate from sheltered hideouts. Their Daddies told them they were Born to Rule; any doctrine that offers absolute rule under the pretense of absolute and final truth is what motivates their devotion to it. So it is hard to define their ideologies because that's all empty talk to distract and confuse people who think analyzing such insincere rambling is important.

Pretty much accurate. Except most of them are not influenced by their daddies. A large percentage of them have little or no contact with their daddies.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Marxist communism requires a stage of totalitarian government with unlimited power to accomplish confiscation of all private property and wealth, abolishing religion, as well as control of the message, speech, expressed opinions of the people. Once that is accomplished and the people no longer have individual ambitions, that totalitarian government can then be abolished and the people will live in complete peace with each receiving according to his needs from each according to his ability.

Not only does it totally ignore human nature, but no government once having seized the totalitarian power has ever willingly given it up.

The Hereditary 1% Should Only Have 1% of the Power

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Untrue since groups on the left and right were anti-war during Nam.

Before They Could Stab Us in the Back, They Had to Take Away Our Backbone

In the fake peace movements, the Left were led by upper-class kids who wanted to discredit the patriotic heroism and sacrifice of the working-class troops. The Snob Mob's Daddies told them to humiliate the Unfortunate Sons in every way available. It had nothing to do with being anti-war, pro-Communist, or feeling sorry for the Vietnamese; its purpose was to kill off or take the fight out of the bravest sons of the working class. Mission Accomplished.

The Righties were flag-waving sissyboys who begged their Daddies to get them out of having to fight. These traitors were so powerful by birth that "Chickenhawk" was considered to be a Leftist term and was dismissed with Whataboutism.

 

[Oddball]

Yes. I waver between the hope that Patriots whether left or right still outnumber the radicals and despair that we do not.

They're vastly outnumbered, and they know it...The despotic always are.

What do you think all the iron-fisted State tactics are all about?

 

[Oddball]

The irony of your statement is unbelievable. Your stupidity of not realizing the irony is unfathomable.
The far left of the 60's did not respect the US judicial system, the CIA, the FBI and law enforcement. They did not trust government.
The MAGA movemment does not respect the US judicial system, the CIA, the FBI and law enforcement. They do not trust government.

Thank you for pointing out the similarities between the far left of the 1960's and today's MAGA movement.

As it was back then, your "authority" has proven to be unworthy of respect...That is earned, not forced at gunpoint.

 

[JoeB131]

How did it happen? Why did it happen? How does it sustain itself and spread? Inquiring minds want to know.

The left used to be anti-war.
Now they’re giving Zelensky a blank check with no accountability required and don't seem to care that North Korea, Iran, and China are all saber rattling.

Um, when were the Democrats anti-War? Every Democrat in my lifetime has used military force somewhere... even Jimmy Carter.

The left used to be anti-FBI and other government law enforcement.
Now they own it and use it against law abiding Americans.

J6 Terrorists aren't law abiding. Neither are crazy Christians who want to murder school board members.

The left used to be pro- women.
Now they applaud transgendered men taking women's jobs, sporting records, scholarships, and putting women at higher risk for assault and worse.

You work on the assumption that giving rights to transgender women takes something away from cisgendered women.

 

[JoeB131]

They're vastly outnumbered, and they know it...The despotic always are.

What do you think all the iron-fisted State tactics are all about?

If we're outnumbered, how come your side hasn't won the national popular vote since 2004, and before that, 1988.

 

[ElmerMudd]

As it was back then, your "authority" has proven to be unworthy of respect...That is earned, not forced at gunpoint.

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Whose authority?

 

[Oddball]

If we're outnumbered, how come your side hasn't won the national popular vote since 2004, and before that, 1988.

Half the availabke electorate didn't didn't vote for anyone...You're outnumbered by no less than 3:1, probably more.

 

[Oddball]

Whose authority?

Don't play obtuse with me, moonbat.

 

[lennypartiv]

The irony of your statement is unbelievable. Your stupidity of not realizing the irony is unfathomable.
The far left of the 60's did not respect the US judicial system, the CIA, the FBI and law enforcement. They did not trust government.
The MAGA movemment does not respect the US judicial system, the CIA, the FBI and law enforcement. They do not trust government.
Thank you for pointing out the similarities between the far left of the 1960's and today's MAGA movement.

Trump and his associates have valid reasons for not trusting the Deep State.

 

[sparky]

How did that happen. How can we stop/reverse it?

And there it is Fox , it's just that simple

For those of us who've been around to witness the evolution , most would agree , it's simply not the country we grew up in

Most would also agree we're a divided nation , some would even venture us a failing one

Who to turn to? What to place faith in?

I'm sorry to be at a loss here.

Anecdotally , government reminds me of all the junkies that i tended to in my EMS days , yanno those fools who would wake up w/narcan , only to tell ue 'this really s*cks', and then go out and do it all again......

~S~

 

[JoeB131]

Half the availabke electorate didn't didn't vote for anyone...You're outnumbered by no less than 3:1, probably more.

Except half the electorate never votes... but if they did, they'd probably break the same way the half that does do.

If you guys were confident they agree with you, you'd be making it easier to vote, not harder.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

If we're outnumbered, how come your side hasn't won the national popular vote since 2004, and before that, 1988.

Elitists Gave Us the Democracy They Wanted


The bipartisan ruling class's Constitution didn't give us the right to vote on who else could vote and who could come into our country and become a voter. So there is nothing "popular" about the White-Replacement electorate.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Except half the electorate never votes... but if they did, they'd probably break the same way the half that does do.

If you guys were confident they agree with you, you'd be making it easier to vote, not harder.

Made Apathetic by the Elitist Constitution

The fact that half the Americans don't see any value in voting proves that they don't really believe in "representative" government, nor should they. You're spinning that fact the way the Top wants you to.

 

[JoeB131]

Elitists Gave Us the Democracy They Wanted


The bipartisan ruling class's Constitution didn't give us the right to vote on who else could vote and who could come into our country and become a voter. So there is nothing "popular" about the White-Replacement electorate.

Um, if the Founders had their way, the franchise would be restricted to just property owning white males.

So... uh, yeah, letting everyone vote is a radical idea, but frankly, their views are just as valid as yours.

The fact that half the Americans don't see any value in voting proves that they don't really believe in "representative" government, nor should they. You're spinning that fact the way the Top wants you to.

Or... they realize that the awful system they have makes it pointless.

Let's take my vote in 2020.

There was no way Biden was going to Lose Illinois. If you didn't live in one of the five or six swing states, we knew which way those states were going to swing the hour after polls closed. So that was kind of pointless.

The race for Senator? Dick Durbin is on his fifth term as Senator. He has easily won every contest he's been in, his worst performance being 54%

The 8th Congressional District had it's borders redrawn after the 2010 Census SPECIFICALLY to get rid of Joe Walsh, a Tea Party mutant who pretty much embarrassed himself and squatted in his Congressional Office. Since then, it's been held by a Democrat, none of whom faced a significant challenge. In 2014, Tammy DUckworth ran while pregnant. In 2020, the GOP didn't even run a candidate against Raja Krishnamorthi, whom you would no doubt fret is one of those White Replacements you worry about.


Now, if you wanted to give people a reason to vote.

1) Make the presidency a popular vote, with run-offs or ranked choice voting to get to 50% to win.
2) Get rid of the Senate. That's pretty fucking worthless.
3) Draw congressional districts to make them competitive.

 

[Billiejeens]

I enjoy being a girl. And I was born that way.

Wow
How 2 years ago.

 

[Billiejeens]

My grandfather???

Shit, it ain't even my former Left from just a few years back.

During his Presidency, Obama once actually said he didn't want to see immigrants with Mexican flags at American soccer games, because they should cheer their new homeland.

Chuck Schumer said we should build a wall, and he wasn't talking about protecting his favorite Delicatessen.

As VP, China Joe said he was opposed to Gay Marriage - now he thinks teachers should be able to trans your kids without your knowledge.

If any of them said that now, they'd be lynched by Antifa.

Meanwhile, the MAGA Right has - to a degree - adopted some of the Left's former policies. Such as tariffs, a secure border to ensure fair wages for working class Americans, and being judged by the content of your character; not the color of your skin.

And the Neocon warmongers all support the Democrats now.

And the Leftist moonbats don't even see it.

It's uncanny I tell ya.

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