It is outrageous that the Trump campaign used data mining.

[RealDave]

No. ASKED for permission, EXPLAINED what was going to happen and WHY.
Please explain how that is the same as what Cambridge Analytica did.

This thread isn't about Cambridge. It's about Trump and Obama. Do try to keep up if you can.

It is about dumbfucks like you who are too Gd dmn stupid to know the difference between the honesty of Obama & the Fraud called Trump.

How dare a Republican think they can use media resources like they were a Democrat or something

Democrats used the data they obtained legally. Cambridge used data obtained illegally. A car thief drives a car but not all who drive cars are thieves.

Trump wasn't driving the car.

If you buy stolen goods from a second hand store or wherever does that then make you a thief? What about that diamond ring on Ebay that you had no idea was stolen? Are you now an accomplice?

Surely your brain can figure this out.

I see another fraudulent enterprise tied into the Trump campaign.

 

[RealDave]

No. ASKED for permission, EXPLAINED what was going to happen and WHY.
Please explain how that is the same as what Cambridge Analytica did.

This thread isn't about Cambridge. It's about Trump and Obama. Do try to keep up if you can.

Okay. Have you figured out the difference in how the data was obtained? Do you now understand that the Obama campaign obtained the data legally while Cambridge did not?

There was nothing illegal about how Cambridge Analytica obtained the data.

I don't know if there was or wasn't but ultimately that is not relevant to this thread. This thread is about Trump & Obama doing the same thing but being held to different standards.

If CA had done something illegal then that would be a good reason to have different reactions. But the method of obtaining Facebook data was virtually identical in both instances. The only difference is a purely technical one.

To be a political campaign & gather information that those providing that information knew where it would be utilized is NOT the same as people thinking they are going to play some sort of game.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

This thread isn't about Cambridge. It's about Trump and Obama. Do try to keep up if you can.

It is about dumbfucks like you who are too Gd dmn stupid to know the difference between the honesty of Obama & the Fraud called Trump.

How dare a Republican think they can use media resources like they were a Democrat or something

Democrats used the data they obtained legally. Cambridge used data obtained illegally. A car thief drives a car but not all who drive cars are thieves.

Trump wasn't driving the car.

If you buy stolen goods from a second hand store or wherever does that then make you a thief? What about that diamond ring on Ebay that you had no idea was stolen? Are you now an accomplice?

Surely your brain can figure this out.

I see another fraudulent enterprise tied into the Trump campaign.

I see another stupid fucking leftist talking out of his ass because it makes him feel good

 

[RealDave]

Wrong.

It is 100% partisan hypocrisy

No. ASKED for permission, EXPLAINED what was going to happen and WHY.
Please explain how that is the same as what Cambridge Analytica did.

This thread isn't about Cambridge. It's about Trump and Obama. Do try to keep up if you can.

Okay. Have you figured out the difference in how the data was obtained? Do you now understand that the Obama campaign obtained the data legally while Cambridge did not?

There was nothing illegal about how Cambridge Analytica obtained the data.

I don't know if there was or wasn't but ultimately that is not relevant to this thread. This thread is about Trump & Obama doing the same thing but being held to different standards.

Only in your Trump infused brain.

How is duping people the same as being honest about where the data is to be utilized .

You've been here yapping & yapping & you are still Wrong.

 

[RealDave]

It is about dumbfucks like you who are too Gd dmn stupid to know the difference between the honesty of Obama & the Fraud called Trump.

How dare a Republican think they can use media resources like they were a Democrat or something

Democrats used the data they obtained legally. Cambridge used data obtained illegally. A car thief drives a car but not all who drive cars are thieves.

Trump wasn't driving the car.

If you buy stolen goods from a second hand store or wherever does that then make you a thief? What about that diamond ring on Ebay that you had no idea was stolen? Are you now an accomplice?

Surely your brain can figure this out.

I see another fraudulent enterprise tied into the Trump campaign.

I see another stupid fucking leftist talking out of his ass because it makes him feel good

Facts are the bane of the feeble minded right.

 

[Stormy Daniels]

This thread isn't about Cambridge. It's about Trump and Obama. Do try to keep up if you can.

Okay. Have you figured out the difference in how the data was obtained? Do you now understand that the Obama campaign obtained the data legally while Cambridge did not?

There was nothing illegal about how Cambridge Analytica obtained the data.

I don't know if there was or wasn't but ultimately that is not relevant to this thread. This thread is about Trump & Obama doing the same thing but being held to different standards.

If CA had done something illegal then that would be a good reason to have different reactions. But the method of obtaining Facebook data was virtually identical in both instances. The only difference is a purely technical one.

To be a political campaign & gather information that those providing that information knew where it would be utilized is NOT the same as people thinking they are going to play some sort of game.

Are you drunk? That was scarcely intelligible.

This has nothing to do with whether anyone knew "where [their data] would be utilized." You don't have the first clue what you're talking about. You've been listening to some news broadcast that has carefully laid out the circumstances in terms that were intentionally designed to lead you to those assumptions. But it's not true. Not in the slightest. If you would have taken some time to know the details you wouldn't look like such silly fool.

The entire Cambridge Analytica matter boils down to a technicality that Facebook was well aware of for years, but is suddenly using to try to scapegoat their actions in the eyes of the public. In both campaigns, Obama and Trump, the data was collected legitimately through the use of Facebook apps, like those stupid personality quizzes where you have to "log in" using your Facebook. This is a pretty common thing and goes well beyond political campaigns.

The only difference is that when Obama's campaign did it, it was done directly. They created a little app to do a personality test, or guess how ticklish you are based on what kind of wine you drink, or whatever silly gimmick they came up with. Once you logged into the app using your Facebook account, they extracted your data and your friends data, so on and so forth.

In the case of the Trump campaign, Cambridge Analytica obtained the data through a contracted proxy. Some Brit created the app, collected the data, then handed the data over to CA. This is technically against Facebook's rules. It's a marginal technicality really. Such a rule is basically the equivalent of an apartment complex saying you're allowed to do your own plumbing repairs yourself, but you're not allowed to hire a plumber to do any repairs.

That's not to say that Facebook doesn't have a reason for this rule, it's just that their reason is self serving at best, makes distinctions with only very small (if any) differences, and even then this technical violation doesn't really fit the spirit of why they have this rule. Their reason simply boils down to the fact that they don't want others selling the data for profit, they want to force anyone interested in the data to harvest it directly in ways that help Facebook propagate users' addiction. In other words, many Facebook users think that apps are fun and/or conveninent, so the more apps there are collecting data the more people use Facebook in ways that allow Facebook to collect even more data on people. Therefore, Facebook's rules require that everyone looking for data come to Facebook and create their own app.

That is the tiny little technicality that separates Obama's campaign collecting and using data versus the Trump campaign collecting and using data. Facebook has suddenly made this big show of righteous indignation because they have been taking a lot of heat for willingly profiting from fake news and bot proliferation. In order to create the outward image of caring, they've decided to dig up a trivial technicality that they'd already known about and chosen to ignore a long time ago, and are turning it into a scapegoat. Meanwhile, the news channels want you to think of this as some kind of data breach, as if it was comparable to Equifax being hacked. Mainstream news hates Facebook because Facebook has simultaneously led to diminishing ratings and readership for traditional news outlets, while increasing the cost of accessing readership and viewers. These outlets are paying through the nose for Facebook advertising in order to get their articles in front of people. If they can make people distrust Facebook, it's good for them. If they can weave it into a tale about Trump being evil, then even better.

 

[Seawytch]

Wrong.

It is 100% partisan hypocrisy

No. ASKED for permission, EXPLAINED what was going to happen and WHY.
Please explain how that is the same as what Cambridge Analytica did.

This thread isn't about Cambridge. It's about Trump and Obama. Do try to keep up if you can.

Okay. Have you figured out the difference in how the data was obtained? Do you now understand that the Obama campaign obtained the data legally while Cambridge did not?

There was nothing illegal about how Cambridge Analytica obtained the data.

I don't know if there was or wasn't but ultimately that is not relevant to this thread. This thread is about Trump & Obama doing the same thing but being held to different standards.

You're taking two completely situations and trying to equate them.
Obama - obtained data legally with permission from users
Cambridge - obtained data illegally without permission.

Understand?

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

No. ASKED for permission, EXPLAINED what was going to happen and WHY.
Please explain how that is the same as what Cambridge Analytica did.

This thread isn't about Cambridge. It's about Trump and Obama. Do try to keep up if you can.

Okay. Have you figured out the difference in how the data was obtained? Do you now understand that the Obama campaign obtained the data legally while Cambridge did not?

There was nothing illegal about how Cambridge Analytica obtained the data.

I don't know if there was or wasn't but ultimately that is not relevant to this thread. This thread is about Trump & Obama doing the same thing but being held to different standards.

You're taking two completely situations and trying to equate them.
Obama - obtained data legally with permission from users
Cambridge - obtained data illegally without permission.

Understand?

I've had too many to drink, I plead the fifth