Israel's Moral Failure

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    In the election held two weeks ago, the Israel Beiteinu (Israel is our Home) Party, led by Avigdor Lieberman, became the third largest in the country - just one of the results of an election which proved that the Israeli electorate has moved far to the right. Right-wing parties now constitute a clear majority in the Knesset.

    For those of us who are Arab-Palestinian citizens in Israel, the results of the election highlighted even more sharply the precarious status of our community, today comprising one-fifth of the population of Israel.


    Israel Beiteinu's vision statement contends that the "solution" to the Palestinian-Israeli conflict is the "exchange of territory and populations, with the goal of the separation of the Jewish and Arab nations, respectively." The vision statement also advocates the proposal of a new citizenship law which would make citizenship contingent upon one's "declaration of loyalty to the State of Israel as a Jewish state," and that Israel is "a Jewish state, as opposed to a state for the Jewish people or for all its citizens."

    In fact, Israel Beiteinu's campaign in the election was built primarily on these separatist principles, using the slogans, "No loyalty, no citizenship" and "Only Lieberman understands Arabic" - statements which portray the Arab population of Israel as inferior citizens and an alien fifth column.

    Taken together, Israel Beiteinu's policies are clearly racist, anti-Arab, and include undertones of nascent fascism.

    WHAT IS an Arab citizen of Israel to make of the fact that these positions actually aided Israel Beiteinu in notably expanding its base of support? According to Lieberman and his party's formulation, we have political obligations (to a country that specifically excludes us), but not rights (such as continuing to hold citizenship in the country in which we were born).

    Under Lieberman's Plan, the city in which I live, Umm el-Fahm, would be "exchanged" for areas beyond the Green Line. Besides the fact that this plan would annex occupied territory in the West Bank to Israel, an act that in and of itself violates international law, it would also contravene numerous international laws protecting indigenous and national minorities.

    The context of the plan is obvious: It is meant to weaken the collective existence of the Arab community in Israel. It would separate Arab citizens from our historical, social, and economic ties to our homeland, including the cities of Nazareth, Haifa and Jerusalem. Families would be torn apart. Arab-owned land would be confiscated.

    PERHAPS EVEN more disturbing than Israel Beiteinu's rise in the polls, however, is the acceptance of its rise by the other major political parties and the public. For those now involved in the delicate dance of putting together a coalition, none have entertained the notion of not entering a government with Lieberman and his party. In fact, Lieberman is viewed as holding the key to forming a government, and therefore will in all likelihood receive one of the most important ministerial portfolios.

    Thus the virulently anti-Arab and racist principles of Israel Beiteinu are moving into the mainstream of Israeli society. (Or, perhaps, it would be more accurate to say that the election is simply a reflection of a shift that has already occurred.)


    In contrast, when Jorg Haider of Austria, whose party was largely recognized as ultra-nationalist and anti-Semitic, joined a coalition government in 2000, Austria faced international isolation, including by Israel, for months. No doubt, were the word "Arab" in Israel Beiteinu's platform replaced with "Jew," it would be immediately and widely condemned as anti-Semitic.

    Unfortunately, both inside Israel and around the world, no similar condemnation of Lieberman and his party seems to be forthcoming.


    Any new government in Israel will face a stark choice. Will it continue down a path of ethnic discrimination and ultra-nationalism, or will it move toward substantive equality and full democracy? For the latter to be achieved, not only must the Arab minority citizens believe in equality and democracy, but Israel's Jewish citizens must do so as well.

    In democracies, it's the state that must be loyal to its minority citizens.


    A moral failure | Op-Ed Contributors | Jerusalem Post
     
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    Israelis are the good guys, and the palestinians are the bad guys. Its pretty simple really. You are blinded by religion, so you are able to pretend that jews are evil, but they arent. Its your religion thats evil.

    While the Israelis may respond to rocket attacks stronger than you might want them to, it should be expected. Its like when you were a kid and you would do something you werent supposed to. The first time around, your parents might give you a lecture about it, but after youve done it multiple times they get fed up and their patience has worn out, so they respond with harsher punishment.

    For the Israelis, its the same way. After so many rocket atacks, they lose their patience and they have to lay down the law and punish the naughty children in Gaza.
     
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    jews are no more inherently "good" than anyone else. In fact, the capacity to suggest as much pretty much indicates your laughable IQ. By all means, racist, say some more dumb shit.
     
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    They arent inherantly good, and i never said that. What i said was that the Israelis are the good guys, and the palestinian terrorists are the bad guys. Your failure to understand this indicates YOUR laughable IQ.

    ...and for the record, while i may make stupid mistakes on occasion (admittedly), i still have a 130 IQ, which puts me in the top 3%, so if thats laughable to you, you must be a genius.
     
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    You stated that "israel are the good guys". This thread isn't even a page long. HOPEFULLY your gimpy fucking brain knows how to scroll up. Again, JEWS AND ISRAEL are not inherently "GOOD" and palis are not inherently "EVIL". The very statement conveys what kind of racist bastard you are.


    130 IQ!

    :lol:


    yea, sure dude. I believe you. You are probably the first guy on the internet to claim a high IQ despite saying dumb shit. Indeed, compared to you I am saturated in omniscience.


    :rofl:
     
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    Thats it eh? As usual, nothing of importance coming from any of your posts. Im amazed you didnt use the word zionist in there somewhere though. You must be trying to expand your vocabulary.

    I think you know im telling the truth about my IQ, and i think it bothers you, so you play this game where you pretend that im lying to make me look bad. The fact is, i dont need you to be convinced, nor do i put a significant amount of importance on IQs, i only mentioned it because you tried to say my IQ is low, when it is not.

    ...of course theres plenty of IQ tests online we could take to prove it. The results can even be set up to automatically be emailed to the person you are competing with, or so im told anyway. Care to challenge me? We could prove it right now if you want, and we can find out what YOUR IQ is too, smart guy.
     
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    yea, dude.. I know.. EVERYONE on the anonymous interwebs has an IQ of no less than 125 and can all bench press 400 pounds! :lol: No, I'm not at all convinced that you, of all people, are wielding an IQ in the triple digits. Despite what your mommy and HS chorus teacher told you, no less. Hell, what have you posted that would even come CLOSE to bothering me? Lord knows you solidified your mentality by choosing such a stupid avatar and user name. If anything, it's indicative of the direct OPPOSITE if you have to post three paragraphs trying to both convince me that you are smart while stating that my validation doesn't mean much.


    uh, an online IQ test? :)lol:) say, dude.. did you also mail in a drawing of a turtle and a pirate and become a certified artistic savant?


    :rofl:

    wow.. there is just so much material here to work with!
     
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    why is 'Jew' synonomous with 'Israel'?

    Catholic isn't exactly synonomous with USA, and last i checked we had the stars and bars, not a big cross

    why pander to theorcacies...?
     
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    ...says the guy who wont accept the challenge. Ok, time for me to go spend my time more productively. Cya.
     
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    um, have you read about israeli election results lately? Maybe you should email Bibi or Lieberman and ask them that question.
     

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